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verbose "Yu Che" screwdriver (detective story)
I have a magnetic slated screwdriver in my
possession that has a certain attitude to it, however the amount of data on the handle seems a bit over the top. Also this is a case where Google failed (or the Internet did, or my usage thereof) as I couldn't get any hits on either the presumed manufacturer's name, nor the ISO standard, nor the patent number. Here is what it says: Yu Che the company? VPA GS (part of the logo) ISO 2380 [1] Type 38 product reference? CR-M chromium, magnetic? 1.0X5.5X100 ??? * width * length PAT M9803920.2 patent number? what's there to patent in just another magnetic slated screwdriver? [1] This page seems to have something to do with it, https://www.iso.org/standard/35869.html , but I can't find the particular material on ISO 2380 tho. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 04:01:43 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: I have a magnetic slated screwdriver in my possession that has a certain attitude to it, however the amount of data on the handle seems a bit over the top. Also this is a case where Google failed (or the Internet did, or my usage thereof) as I couldn't get any hits on either the presumed manufacturer's name, nor the ISO standard, nor the patent number. Here is what it says: Yu Che the company? VPA GS (part of the logo) ISO 2380 [1] Type 38 product reference? CR-M chromium, magnetic? 1.0X5.5X100 ??? * width * length PAT M9803920.2 patent number? what's there to patent in just another magnetic slated screwdriver? [1] This page seems to have something to do with it, https://www.iso.org/standard/35869.html , but I can't find the particular material on ISO 2380 tho. Why not just google on ISO 2380? I get 452,000 hits. -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. wrote:
Why not just google on ISO 2380? I get 452,000 hits. Do the 452 000 hits include the one that describes that standard in particular? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On 9/15/2017 2:23 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
John B. wrote: Why not just google on ISO 2380? I get 452,000 hits. Do the 452 000 hits include the one that describes that standard in particular? ISO 2380 is a block of specifications for hand tools. You'll need the specific subsection for whatever it is you need to know. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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AMuzi wrote:
ISO 2380 is a block of specifications for hand tools. You'll need the specific subsection for whatever it is you need to know. Granted, there is nothing I "need" to know here, just thought it could be an interesting "lead" to explore. It doesn't say anything more than what I wrote in the first post, which was a lot to begin with. It would be interesting to know in general how to look up a standard, and what specifically this refers to that they thought important enough to put on their screwdriver. But OK, two specific question would be, one, what does the first digit in 1.0X5.5X100 refer to? Some property of the magnet? And two, what is so special about the screwdriver that it qualified for a patent? And how that is looked up, in general, as well... The number in particular being PAT M9803920.2 . -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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Emanuel Berg wrote:
:But OK, two specific question would be, one, :what does the first digit in 1.0X5.5X100 refer :to? Some property of the magnet? Thickness of the blade, width of the blade, length of the thing. :And two, what is so special about the :screwdriver that it qualified for a patent? :And how that is looked up, in general, as :well... The number in particular being :PAT M9803920.2 . That's not a format I recognize. -- sig 38 |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 02:04:05 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: AMuzi wrote: ISO 2380 is a block of specifications for hand tools. You'll need the specific subsection for whatever it is you need to know. Granted, there is nothing I "need" to know here, just thought it could be an interesting "lead" to explore. It doesn't say anything more than what I wrote in the first post, which was a lot to begin with. It would be interesting to know in general how to look up a standard, and what specifically this refers to that they thought important enough to put on their screwdriver. But OK, two specific question would be, one, what does the first digit in 1.0X5.5X100 refer to? Some property of the magnet? There is obviously no way of telling but I would guess that it is the size of the screwdriver 1.0mm by 5.5mm by 100mm. I just jumped up and measured a screw driver in my tool box and amazingly it measures 0.9 x 5.3 x 103mm. so perhaps my supposition is correct? And two, what is so special about the screwdriver that it qualified for a patent? And how that is looked up, in general, as well... The number in particular being PAT M9803920.2 . -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 21:23:46 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. wrote: Why not just google on ISO 2380? I get 452,000 hits. Do the 452 000 hits include the one that describes that standard in particular? Well, you apparently didn't even bother to try what I suggested but ISO 2380 is a basic standard concerning "Assembly tools for screws and nuts -- Screwdrivers for slotted-head screws". we have a ISO 2380-1:2004 Assembly tools for screws and nuts -- Screwdrivers for slotted-head screws -- Part 1: Tips for hand- and machine-operated screwdrivers and a ISO 2380-2:2004 Assembly tools for screws and nuts -- Screwdrivers for slotted-head screws -- Part 2: General requirements, lengths of blades and marking of hand-operated screwdrivers and probably several other portions of the standards concerning the same thing. Which one did you want? -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. wrote:
Well, you apparently didn't even bother to try what I suggested but ISO 2380 is a basic standard concerning "Assembly tools for screws and nuts -- Screwdrivers for slotted-head screws". If I Google "ISO 2380" the first hit is this page, a link I provided in the initial post: https://www.iso.org/standard/35869.html It contains some metadata and a form to "Buy this standard" but what I can see (?) no link to the standard itself, nor any hands-on data with respect to the/a screwdriver or whatever properties it complies with. Are the ISO standards not available free of charge so you have to buy them to know what they say? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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Emanuel Berg wrote:
:Are the ISO standards not available free of :charge so you have to buy them to know what :they say? ISO make their living selling the standards to people. Giving them away would interfere with that. -- sig 7 |
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