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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
On Oct 12, 6:27 am, "Road_Hog" wrote:
"BOFH" wrote in message ... "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Case in point is how we should make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test and if they fail that test they won't have a chance with the driving test! Why? Because it's better to knock a few cones with a bicycle, than with a car, where those cones are bound to be cyclists or pedestrians in real life. Simply some people should not be driving! uk.rec.driving meet the obsessed, militant footsoldiers you share the road with. I think you all need to talk this through All cyclists should be shot on site, except the lycra wearing ones, who should be hung, drawn and quartered.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - These would be spared, right? http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm The lady is cute, but the bicycle looks like a stupid motorcycle. |
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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
On Oct 12, 7:02 am, Halmyre wrote:
In article , says... "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Case in point is how we should make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test and if they fail that test they won't have a chance with the driving test! Why? Because it's better to knock a few cones with a bicycle, than with a car, where those cones are bound to be cyclists or pedestrians in real life. Simply some people should not be driving! uk.rec.driving meet the obsessed, militant footsoldiers you share the road with. I think you all need to talk this through Trouble is, there's no such thing as a cycling test, which is blatantly obvious when you observe the behaviour of cyclists. I think cyclists are left anarchists by nature, unlike motorcyclists who are right Libertarians. |
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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
On Oct 12, 2:15 pm, Jym Dyer wrote:
[Removed from rec.bicycles.rides where this was NEVER on-topic.] =v= The potential and actual damages of bicycles don't come anywhere near those of motorized vehicles. It's simply not worth the price of the bureaucracy involved. =v= If the world's most repressive regimes can get by without demanding licensing of bicyclists, I think free countries could somehow manage to muddle through without it as well. _Jym_ The most repressive regimes allow cyclists to be fair game for the SUVs. Hunting season usually is in the summer time. |
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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
On Oct 12, 5:08 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"BOFH" wrote in message ... "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Case in point is how we should make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test and if they fail that test they won't have a chance with the driving test! Why? Because it's better to knock a few cones with a bicycle, than with a car, where those cones are bound to be cyclists or pedestrians in real life. Simply some people should not be driving! uk.rec.driving meet the obsessed, militant footsoldiers you share the road with. I think you all need to talk this through ALL car drivers shold have to ride a cycle for at least a year on the road every day before getting a driving licence for a car. It would better that they drive first an SUV, and then all the way down to a bicycle. The drivers of the former have a lower IQ than those on two wheels. (KingOfTheApes=ComandanteBanana, but I don't mean any offense to anyone here) |
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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
On Oct 12, 7:25*pm, Phil W Lee phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk
wrote: ComandanteBanana considered Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:03:00 -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write: Case in point is how we should make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test and if they fail that test they won't have a chance with the driving test! Why? Because it's better to knock a few cones with a bicycle, than with a car, where those cones are bound to be cyclists or pedestrians in real life. Simply some people should not be driving! I'd go further, and have a mandatory route through increasing weight of vehicle, starting with a bicycle, then moped, small motorcycle, performance motorcycle, small car, high performance car, larger car or van, SUV, rigid truck or bus, articulated truck or bus. Use for hire or reward an additional test, at any level (but separately testable for each subsequent level attained). Trailers to be an additional test, at any appropriate level (but separately testable for each subsequent level attained). The only optional classes should be the performance ones, other than that, the preceding one is the only way of obtaining a provisional licence for the next class up. Possible disability exemptions, but drivers so exempted should be identifiable, so people can make allowances. Put a branch in for agricultural vehicles, alongside SUVs. So everyone would start on a bicycle, and once they had been using it long enough, they could take a test that would qualify them to learn to use a moped (if they wanted to). Once they'd passed the moped test, they would become eligable to learn to ride a small motorcycle. etc. etc. up through the grades. I'd also adopt the "assumed liability" laws from the Netherlands, where in the absence of evidence to the contrary, the driver of the larger vehicle in any incident is assumed to be at fault. As well as safety benefits, this licencing scheme would provide a relatively soft landing for road users when the oil runs out or becomes too expensive to waste on non-essential travel. It makes so much sense. Now do we convince our candidates that such an idea should be a presidential issue? It should right up there with the designer glasses worn by Ms. Palin. Look, they're all eyeing those Palin glasses A self-confessed "pitbull in lipstick" and "hockey mum", Palin is finding her niche in the fashion industry with her Kazuo Kawasaki rimless eyeglasses. http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...cle/index_html "Pitbull in lipstick" almost sounds like "lion in lipstick." They are real hungry. |
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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
On Oct 13, 10:38 pm, "S'mee" wrote:
On Oct 13, 5:41 pm, ComandanteBanana wrote: On Oct 11, 11:29 am, "S'mee" wrote: On Oct 10, 9:30 pm, (Tom Keats) wrote: In article , "S'mee" writes: Uh you obviously FAILED at both critical reading and thinking. He said if you can't ride a bicycle(pushbike in barbarian lands) or ride a motorcycle you shouldn't be aloud to drive anything at all...not a bad ^^^^^ Go back to bed. Sleep is for the weak and my spelling is notorious. 8^/ idea too bad I thought of it back when I started riding back in '76. Good for you. Yabbut nobody listens to the ideas of a kid. At least we're free to rebut. Without getting decapitated. Just investigated ;-) Water boarded, violated (just searching for contraband comrad) And that's what's better about Western/New World society. I thought it was the beer and single malt whiskeys. mmm, single malt, mmm hic. Go back to bed. I was still up from a nice 6am start that day. Maybe have a tomato juice in the morning. Why I've coffee, a piece of tail and no hangover...some of us are responsible. Unlike over half of america. The ones voting the same old ****, or the ones voting for the new ****?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes...I vote that nobody votes for either party. Anyway we need MORE parties...even if they are socialist democratic christians. We need some parties fun to laugh at not easy. -- Keith- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I say a vote for Obama may be a mistake, but a vote for McPain would be a unforgiveable. I'm with the majority that does NOT vote. |
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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
On Oct 13, 11:22 pm, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article , "S'mee" writes: Yes...I vote that nobody votes for either party. Anyway we need MORE parties...even if they are socialist democratic christians. We need some parties fun to laugh at not easy. A party sounds good to me. 'Xcept I gotta go to work tomorrow. What the heck -- I vote we have a party! With whores d'ouevres and absinthe cocktails and deli platters and good tunes and dancing, and a scientific guy to fascinatedly listen to for a brief while, and then walk away from in the throes of ennui. And valet bicycle parking. cheers, & the situation is hopeless but not serious, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca Then come to Miami on Nov. 9th, bike celebration time! Some new bike lanes and valet parking for bikes. The hookers you have to get on your own, but Biscayne Blvd is nearby. Just be ready to put with Banana Republic politics. With the Banana Revolution we plan to have the girls free, since we plan to bring the Dutch model over here. Yes, the bike facilities are included. |
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the letter S for stupid
On Oct 12, 5:08 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"BOFH" wrote in message ... "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Case in point is how we should make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test and if they fail that test they won't have a chance with the driving test! Why? Because it's better to knock a few cones with a bicycle, than with a car, where those cones are bound to be cyclists or pedestrians in real life. Simply some people should not be driving! uk.rec.driving meet the obsessed, militant footsoldiers you share the road with. I think you all need to talk this through ALL car drivers shold have to ride a cycle for at least a year on the road every day before getting a driving licence for a car. Alan And then if the survive they'll get points toward the Driver's License. Makes sense. It also makes sense that we adopt the British system by which the new licensees get to bear the letter L for learner. And then if they never learn they should bear the letter S for stupid. A lot of them in America. |
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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
plan to bring the Dutch model over here. Yes, the bike facilities are
included. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry, I didn't provide more info... http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=474893 No, I won't be there because the bike lanes won't be anywhere near where I live. ;( (I quote here) I could not believe my eyes when I read this article in the paper this morning. Is this the same Miami I live and bike in? Miami, acknowledged road rage capital of the US, where cars aim at cyclists on the street, where I get yelled at on a weekly basis to "get the f@ck off the road!" |
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Should we make people pass a cycling/motorcycle test before adriving test?
Originally Posted by Szczuldo
"the OP's "test" is completely moronic, it will not teach a driver anything about cyclists and how to react when they are on the same road. If anything, new drivers need to spend a certain amount of time on a bike on the road. Quite possibly on a tandem with an instructor as the stoker except he also has access to the brakes. If new drivers do not understand what it's like to be a cyclist on the road, then as drivers they will not know where to look for them and could quite possibly hit them. If they spend enough time on a bike and see how drivers disrespect bike riders maybe they'll learn and not do it themselves. The amount of time spent on a bike with an instructor should be 1.5 or 2x as much as time with an instructor spent in a car, and of course should also be done first." As opposed to licensing people "factory style," where the instructor and the test provider all work to produce as many drivers as possible. |
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