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Old March 8th 11, 09:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_2_]
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a friend that works for this company told me of this video: the cyclist had
plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. It is a typical
example of someone with no road sense meeting someone else with no road
sense. Both cyclist and van driver need to follow the rules of the road.
People make mistakes, people do things deliberately, you have to react and
keep yourself safe, it is not rocket science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCaTU7U6xGs


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Old March 8th 11, 09:33 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Steve Walker[_2_]
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Mrcheerful wrote:
a friend that works for this company told me of this video: the cyclist
had
plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. It is a typical
example of someone with no road sense meeting someone else with no road
sense. Both cyclist and van driver need to follow the rules of the road.
People make mistakes, people do things deliberately, you have to react and
keep yourself safe, it is not rocket science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCaTU7U6xGs


Very poor driving by the van. Selfish and unobservant. But the cyclist
was still behind at 11s, and should've stayed behind until the idiot van
driver had sorted himself out.


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Old March 8th 11, 09:34 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tony Raven[_3_]
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"Mrcheerful" wrote:
a friend that works for this company told me of this video: the cyclist had
plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. It is a typical
example of someone with no road sense meeting someone else with no road
sense. Both cyclist and van driver need to follow the rules of the road.
People make mistakes, people do things deliberately, you have to react and
keep yourself safe, it is not rocket science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCaTU7U6xGs


The first part happens all the time - motorist pulling across to go
straight ahead in the outside lane. And as a cyclist in the bus lane, you
would not expect them to pull into the bus lane as that is illegal. What
is not expected is the last minute left indicator and pull into the bus
lane with left turn. Despite that the cyclist appears to have avoided a
collision so an alert cyclist avoids an accident despite a driver with no
awareness or road sense. But you knew that didn't you? Or rather you
would have had you broken your rule and actually watched the link you
posted for a change.

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Old March 8th 11, 10:39 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Paul - xxx[_2_]
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Mrcheerful wrote:

a friend that works for this company told me of this video: the
cyclist had plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. It
is a typical example of someone with no road sense meeting someone
else with no road sense. Both cyclist and van driver need to follow
the rules of the road. People make mistakes, people do things
deliberately, you have to react and keep yourself safe, it is not
rocket science.


There was no compo involved, so how is it a 'classic example'?

Mind, I agree that the cyclist could and should have pulled up earlier
as (and it's annotated on the video) it's easily seen in time that the
van's pulling across his lane. No need to confront the van
driver/passenger at all really, slow down, drop back and go round the
back of the van.

Other than being a **** and to make a video of it ...

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Old March 8th 11, 12:39 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_2_]
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Paul - xxx wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote:

a friend that works for this company told me of this video: the
cyclist had plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. It
is a typical example of someone with no road sense meeting someone
else with no road sense. Both cyclist and van driver need to follow
the rules of the road. People make mistakes, people do things
deliberately, you have to react and keep yourself safe, it is not
rocket science.


There was no compo involved, so how is it a 'classic example'?

Mind, I agree that the cyclist could and should have pulled up earlier
as (and it's annotated on the video) it's easily seen in time that the
van's pulling across his lane. No need to confront the van
driver/passenger at all really, slow down, drop back and go round the
back of the van.

Other than being a **** and to make a video of it ...



It seems likely that some of the cyclist mounted cameras will be used to
film incidents that the cyclist has provoked, and some of those will lead to
compensation claims: hence compo cam, in this particular case the cyclist
probably would have slowed earlier IF the camera had not been there.
What is it called ? Risk Compensation?


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Old March 8th 11, 01:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
PhilO
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On Mar 8, 9:09*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
a friend


No. Clearly making stuff up.
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Old March 8th 11, 06:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Trevor A Panther
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paul

not on this topic but I see you asked about lidl panniers on urcm.

Don't buy them they are rubbish .

I have a set from last yesr very very slightly used andyou ca have them. We
could meet in Doncaster market for the give away

The shorts last year were total rubbish as well and made by goodness knows
who

but Glove/mitts are good value and shirts etc have always been good if you
are normall sizes.

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Mrcheerful wrote:

a friend that works for this company told me of this video: the
cyclist had plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. It
is a typical example of someone with no road sense meeting someone
else with no road sense. Both cyclist and van driver need to follow
the rules of the road. People make mistakes, people do things
deliberately, you have to react and keep yourself safe, it is not
rocket science.


There was no compo involved, so how is it a 'classic example'?

Mind, I agree that the cyclist could and should have pulled up earlier
as (and it's annotated on the video) it's easily seen in time that the
van's pulling across his lane. No need to confront the van
driver/passenger at all really, slow down, drop back and go round the
back of the van.

Other than being a **** and to make a video of it ...

--
Paul - xxx



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Old March 8th 11, 07:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
al Mossah[_2_]
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On Mar 8, 9:09*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
a friend that works for this company told me of this video: *the cyclist had
plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. *It is a typical
example of someone with no road sense meeting someone else with no road
sense. *Both cyclist and van driver need to follow the rules of the road.
People make mistakes, people do things deliberately, you have to react and
keep yourself safe, it is not rocket science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCaTU7U6xGs


By stopping right at the van, I suppose he drew the van driver's
attention to his mistake, thus giving the van driver the opportunity
next time of actually looking. A car driver would probably have
sounded his horn to make the same point.

I've enjoyed the look of shock on a passenger's face as I've politely
tapped on the window of a car edging into my cycle lane on my morning
commute ("a cyclist in a cycle lane - quel suprise?"). If you don't
tell 'em, they keep doing it.
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Old March 8th 11, 07:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 08/03/2011 09:33, Steve Walker wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote:
a friend that works for this company told me of this video: the cyclist
had
plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. It is a typical
example of someone with no road sense meeting someone else with no road
sense. Both cyclist and van driver need to follow the rules of the road.
People make mistakes, people do things deliberately, you have to react and
keep yourself safe, it is not rocket science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCaTU7U6xGs


Very poor driving by the van.


And the driver could have been better, too.
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Old March 8th 11, 07:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_7_]
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On 08/03/2011 09:34, Tony Raven wrote:

wrote:
a friend that works for this company told me of this video: the cyclist had
plenty of time to slow and avoid any unpleasantness. It is a typical
example of someone with no road sense meeting someone else with no road
sense. Both cyclist and van driver need to follow the rules of the road.
People make mistakes, people do things deliberately, you have to react and
keep yourself safe, it is not rocket science.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCaTU7U6xGs


The first part happens all the time - motorist pulling across to go
straight ahead in the outside lane. And as a cyclist in the bus lane, you
would not expect them to pull into the bus lane as that is illegal. What
is not expected is the last minute left indicator and pull into the bus
lane with left turn. Despite that the cyclist appears to have avoided a
collision so an alert cyclist avoids an accident despite a driver with no
awareness or road sense. But you knew that didn't you? Or rather you
would have had you broken your rule and actually watched the link you
posted for a change.


A good example of why it is never a good idea to overtake on the left in a
country which drives on the left. The nearside rear-quarter is always an
observational weak spot, even in a fully-glazed car, let alone a van.
 




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