Helmets

This guy? THIS GUY????????????????????????????/ I'M A WOMAN!!!!!!!

Jeeeeesus.....!!


Vivian
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"We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school".
No Surrender

"Simon" wrote in message
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No need to shoot this guy down in flames- it's his first time!

Welcome to the group!

Simon

www.simonpaddon.com
www.coast-coast.info

I see the helmets as a protection, really. When wearing seatbelts becase
compulsory, did that deter drivers from buying and driving cars? Don't think
so. All the contrary by the looks of it!! Did the obligatory use of
helmets for motorcyclist reduce their numbers? Nope.

I think we should trust people a bit more, that's all.


Vivian
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"We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school".
No Surrender

"Mark Thompson" wrote in message
3.157...
I'm new to this group so I don't know if this has been discussed
before.

Wearing a helmet will become compulsory for under 16's in the UK.
I've read/heard many people complaining that this will deter people
from picking up cycling, as wearing a helmet implies a dangerous
activity.

I totally disagree with this.

What do you guys think?

Due to lots of talking about this, the general consensus of the group is
remarkably similar to what's on the other end of this link:

http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Camp...leafleta_w.pdf

There're a few (and I think it is only a few) who hold substantially
differing views on either side.

It should be noted that a lot of information provided by pro-compulsion
lobby groups (and then repeated by everyone else) is incorrect -I think
there's a section on it in the link- so looking critically at the
information provided by all parties in the debate is important.

Anyway, after you've read what's on the other side of the link you'll
know why we think what we think. What I'm curious about is why you think
what you think.

I see the helmets as a protection, really. When wearing seatbelts becase
compulsory, did that deter drivers from buying and driving cars? Don't think
so. All the contrary by the looks of it!! Did the obligatory use of
helmets for motorcyclist reduce their numbers? Nope.

I think we should trust people a bit more, that's all.


Vivian
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"We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school".
No Surrender

"Mark Thompson" wrote in message
3.157...
I'm new to this group so I don't know if this has been discussed
before.

Wearing a helmet will become compulsory for under 16's in the UK.
I've read/heard many people complaining that this will deter people
from picking up cycling, as wearing a helmet implies a dangerous
activity.

I totally disagree with this.

What do you guys think?

Due to lots of talking about this, the general consensus of the group is
remarkably similar to what's on the other end of this link:

http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Camp...leafleta_w.pdf

There're a few (and I think it is only a few) who hold substantially
differing views on either side.

It should be noted that a lot of information provided by pro-compulsion
lobby groups (and then repeated by everyone else) is incorrect -I think
there's a section on it in the link- so looking critically at the
information provided by all parties in the debate is important.

Anyway, after you've read what's on the other side of the link you'll
know why we think what we think. What I'm curious about is why you think
what you think.

I thought that a troll was somebody who insulted other members of the
newsgroup. Now, I haven't insulted anyone. Not yet at least! ;-)

So, I think you should take it back. Really.

Vivian
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"We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school".
No Surrender

"Ian Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:53:26 +0100, Vivian wrote:
I'm new to this group so I don't know if this has been discussed
before.

Wearing a helmet will become compulsory for under 16's in the UK. I've
read/heard many people complaining that this will deter people from
picking
up cycling, as wearing a helmet implies a dangerous activity.

I totally disagree with this.

What do you guys think?

I think you are a troll, and not a particularaly clever one.

However, it's possible you're sincere but misguided, in which case I
suggest you try a newsgroup archive (google, perhaps) and read up
about it.

regards, Ian SMith
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I thought that a troll was somebody who insulted other members of the
newsgroup. Now, I haven't insulted anyone. Not yet at least! ;-)

So, I think you should take it back. Really.

Vivian
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"We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school".
No Surrender

"Ian Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:53:26 +0100, Vivian wrote:
I'm new to this group so I don't know if this has been discussed
before.

Wearing a helmet will become compulsory for under 16's in the UK. I've
read/heard many people complaining that this will deter people from
picking
up cycling, as wearing a helmet implies a dangerous activity.

I totally disagree with this.

What do you guys think?

I think you are a troll, and not a particularaly clever one.

However, it's possible you're sincere but misguided, in which case I
suggest you try a newsgroup archive (google, perhaps) and read up
about it.

regards, Ian SMith
--
|\ /| no .sig
|o o|
|/ \|

"Vivian" wrote in message
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snip
I think we should trust people a bit more, that's all.

That's the basic attitude of most people here. We all want to be trusted to
make our own decisions, not have them made for us. As for it discouraging
cycling... *every* country that has implimented a compulsory helmet policy
has since an instantaneous decrease in the number of cyclists.

Jon

"Vivian" wrote in message
...
snip
I think we should trust people a bit more, that's all.

That's the basic attitude of most people here. We all want to be trusted to
make our own decisions, not have them made for us. As for it discouraging
cycling... *every* country that has implimented a compulsory helmet policy
has since an instantaneous decrease in the number of cyclists.

Jon

"Vivian" wrote in message
...
I thought that a troll was somebody who insulted other members of the
newsgroup. Now, I haven't insulted anyone. Not yet at least! ;-)

So, I think you should take it back. Really.

A troll is someone who goes around NGs "trolling" for arguments. The aim is
to provoke a response. Anyone who had lurked here for a while would have
seen about 1 thread / day on the compulsory helmet bill and would have
already seen the general opinion here. This is why people might think you
were trolling.

Jon

"Vivian" wrote in message
...
I thought that a troll was somebody who insulted other members of the
newsgroup. Now, I haven't insulted anyone. Not yet at least! ;-)

So, I think you should take it back. Really.

A troll is someone who goes around NGs "trolling" for arguments. The aim is
to provoke a response. Anyone who had lurked here for a while would have
seen about 1 thread / day on the compulsory helmet bill and would have
already seen the general opinion here. This is why people might think you
were trolling.

Jon

I see the helmets as a protection, really.

Protection against what exactly?

I'm like you, I have always *instinctively* felt that helmets must be A Good
Thing, because it *must* be a good idea to have all that padding on your
head, right?

Since joining this newsgroup I have somewhat revised my opinion so that I
now trust my instinct less and the facts and evidence more.

I think we should trust people a bit more, that's all.

I *trust* you have some hard evidence to back up the claims you have made in
your posts - including the ones about car seatbelts and motorcycle helmets.
Yes?

d.