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Old May 5th 09, 11:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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You have to wonder about the Giro designers.

First off you kill the "real" sprinters by have hard climbs in the first
week. Then you have whatever sprinters are left completely fatigued and not
able to close on the breakaways during the second week when there are some
flat stages. Then near the end of the second week when you've destroyed the
flat racers you put in a LONG TT so that even the moderately good guys are
exhausted.

Then in the final week you throw another bunch of hard climbs at the racers
even including a climb up Mt. Vesuvius just to keep everyone breathing
through their nose I suppose.

Then on the last day have everyone do a short HARD TT.

Where did they dig up the course design this year?

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Old May 6th 09, 01:58 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
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On May 5, 3:29*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
You have to wonder about the Giro designers.

First off you kill the "real" sprinters by have hard climbs in the first
week.


snip



Dumbass -


It's because they know the mass sprint stages are boring.


thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
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Old May 6th 09, 02:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Fredburger
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Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. wrote:
On May 5, 3:29 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
You have to wonder about the Giro designers.

First off you kill the "real" sprinters by have hard climbs in the first
week.


snip



Dumbass -


It's because they know the mass sprint stages are boring.


Haven't we determined that they're also gay?
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Old May 6th 09, 03:03 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On May 5, 9:28*pm, Fred Fredburger
wrote:

It's because they know the mass sprint stages are boring.


Haven't we determined that they're also gay?


That depends.

Mass sprint where thick-head former trackie throws someone to the
ground: not gay.

Mass sprint where the guy 15 deep celebrates teammate's win: gay.

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Old May 6th 09, 04:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Ryan Cousineau
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In article ,
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

You have to wonder about the Giro designers.

First off you kill the "real" sprinters by have hard climbs in the first
week. Then you have whatever sprinters are left completely fatigued and not
able to close on the breakaways during the second week when there are some
flat stages. Then near the end of the second week when you've destroyed the
flat racers you put in a LONG TT so that even the moderately good guys are
exhausted.

Then in the final week you throw another bunch of hard climbs at the racers
even including a climb up Mt. Vesuvius just to keep everyone breathing
through their nose I suppose.

Then on the last day have everyone do a short HARD TT.

Where did they dig up the course design this year?


I think this guy did the digging:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...24_cycling_416.
jpg

BTW, I'd just like to say that as described by TK, this year's Giro
sounds sweet. Can't wait.

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Old May 6th 09, 05:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Amit Ghosh
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On May 5, 6:29*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Where did they dig up the course design this year?


dumbass,

the tour has a codified structure they haven't really messed with in
the last 20 years or so, but the giro and vuelta do lots of gimmicky
stuff, like crazy climbs, mountain stages in the opening/closing
stages and circuit finishes in order to generate interest.

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Old May 6th 09, 06:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kyle Legate[_2_]
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Amit Ghosh wrote:
On May 5, 6:29 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Where did they dig up the course design this year?


dumbass,

the tour has a codified structure they haven't really messed with in
the last 20 years or so, but the giro and vuelta do lots of gimmicky
stuff, like crazy climbs, mountain stages in the opening/closing
stages and circuit finishes in order to generate interest.

The Giro missed their chance to set up a jump over a narrow canal for
this year's TTT. That would have finally given me the interest to watch
a TT stage.
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Old May 6th 09, 08:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On May 5, 7:03*pm, wrote:
On May 5, 9:28*pm, Fred Fredburger

wrote:

It's because they know the mass sprint stages are boring.


Haven't we determined that they're also gay?


That depends.

Mass sprint where thick-head former trackie throws someone to the
ground: not gay.

Mass sprint where the guy 15 deep celebrates teammate's win: gay.




Dumbass -


Like this?

http://tinyurl.com/dd2a8h


thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
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Old May 6th 09, 10:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Wed, 06 May 2009 07:25:31 +0200, Kyle Legate
wrote:

Amit Ghosh wrote:
On May 5, 6:29 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Where did they dig up the course design this year?


dumbass,

the tour has a codified structure they haven't really messed with in
the last 20 years or so, but the giro and vuelta do lots of gimmicky
stuff, like crazy climbs, mountain stages in the opening/closing
stages and circuit finishes in order to generate interest.

The Giro missed their chance to set up a jump over a narrow canal for
this year's TTT. That would have finally given me the interest to watch
a TT stage.


I did a short opening TT in a stage race which had two speed bumps on
the course, so you had to come out of the aero bars and hop them.. The
field was small (less than 30 guys) and only one person had a proble
-- the course designer! He slammed one of the speed bumps and blew a
tire.
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Old May 6th 09, 11:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro[_3_]
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Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT wrote:
I did a short opening TT in a stage race which had two speed bumps on the
course, so you had to come out of the aero bars and hop them.. The field
was small (less than 30 guys) and only one person had a proble -- the
course designer! He slammed one of the speed bumps and blew a tire.


So a petard is actually a speed bump then.
 




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