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This seems to be a largely US ng but I couldn't find a UK equivalent so here
goes: Just got back on a bike after a few years. Never previously worn a helmet but having three kids changed my perspective. Anyway in my price range - up to GBP30 or so - there are a couple of alternatives on offer at the local store Specialized Chamonix and Met MaxTrack II (I'm sure I could order another if there is a standout model). One of the reasons I'm asking is that five years ago 'Which', a consumer magazine in the UK, did a survey of bike helmets and a majority were not suitable for their intended purpose, ie they did not adequately protect your head. So what would you recommend as a suitable helmet for someone commuting 4 or 5 miles a day to work and back on city roads? cheers dd |
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DD,
I won't open the discussion of whether helmets are effective or not. There are times when they may possibly be (just like there are times when the small bible in the shirt pocket can stop a bullet), and there are times when they certainly are not (probably those situations where adults are most likely to experience). That said, certified helmets are all essentially the same. If you must have one, select one (if you can find it) that conforms to whatever standards organization tests helmets in Europe. Helmets that lack labels from a standards organization are useless (or worse). In the US, for example, most helmets, possibly all that are certified, are ANSI certified. The last time I looked at helmets, I could not find any that conformed to the more stringent Snell standard. It would seem that once helmets were mandated in most states, there was no longer any benefit in marketing a such a helmet. Yet another example of style over substance. Rick "DDEckerslyke" wrote in message ... This seems to be a largely US ng but I couldn't find a UK equivalent so here goes: Just got back on a bike after a few years. Never previously worn a helmet but having three kids changed my perspective. Anyway in my price range - up to GBP30 or so - there are a couple of alternatives on offer at the local store Specialized Chamonix and Met MaxTrack II (I'm sure I could order another if there is a standout model). One of the reasons I'm asking is that five years ago 'Which', a consumer magazine in the UK, did a survey of bike helmets and a majority were not suitable for their intended purpose, ie they did not adequately protect your head. So what would you recommend as a suitable helmet for someone commuting 4 or 5 miles a day to work and back on city roads? cheers dd |
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DDEckerslyke wrote:
This seems to be a largely US ng but I couldn't find a UK equivalent so here goes: Just got back on a bike after a few years. Never previously worn a helmet but having three kids changed my perspective. Anyway in my price range - up to GBP30 or so - there are a couple of alternatives on offer at the local store Specialized Chamonix and Met MaxTrack II (I'm sure I could order another if there is a standout model). One of the reasons I'm asking is that five years ago 'Which', a consumer magazine in the UK, did a survey of bike helmets and a majority were not suitable for their intended purpose, ie they did not adequately protect your head. So what would you recommend as a suitable helmet for someone commuting 4 or 5 miles a day to work and back on city roads? cheers dd Make sure it's certified and fits your head. If there is more than one helmet that meets those standards, go for the one with the best ventillation. -- -- Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine. |
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AFAICS this seems to be an ongoing debate in this ng. Is there any one place where I can see both sides of the argument? FWIW the one major crash I had where I was knocked unconscious a helmet would have made no difference but IIRC Chris Boardman crashed in the TdF one year and said his helmet saved him from a lot of damage. DD, Frankly, I haven't archived most of same, nor do I track the websites that discuss the issue. Deja News will give you the stuff and links that were posted on the topic. You can also search for information on the web, particularly the Aussie study that was done a few years back. That said, certified helmets are all essentially the same. If you must have one, select one (if you can find it) that conforms to whatever standards organization tests helmets in Europe. This was part of the problem in the survey I mentioned. The magazine dropped helmets on to three different shaped anvils and analysed the results. Many of the helmets did next to nothing to absorb the impact despite the fact that all conformed to one or other of the two main standards. I wondered if there were helmets that are known to be effective. The Snell standard helmets were, IMO, most likely to provide some protection. The essential problem with helmets is, according to the anti-helmet crowd (I don't particularly align with either camp), is that the helmet essentially enlarges the skull, adding rotational torque to any impact. This torque on the neck/skull produces more severe injuries than a direct impact (which the skull is designed to handle reasonably well). Additionally, the type of impact helmets were designed to mitigate are rarely encountered in cycling accidents. Most blows to the skull will be oblique, not direct, hence the torque issue. Worse, most will exceed the design specifications of the helmet in the first place leading to catastrophic failure (hence the quote you cite above "Many of the helmets did next to nothing to absorb the impact..." Frankly, I am leaning toward the wear a good hat and shades attitude. It keeps you warmer in winter and protects from the sun in summer. Rick |
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"DDEckerslyke" wrote in message ...
AFAICS this seems to be an ongoing debate in this ng. Is there any one place where I can see both sides of the argument? I don't know of one place that is "neutral," if that's what you mean. Think about it: most "neutral" people will lack the motivation to publish on the issue. But this is normal for almost all contentious issues. It simply means you must weigh the evidence provided by both sides and decide which is more sensible. I can attempt to summarize some of the major points of the helmet fans and the non-fans, at risk of being called biased. Helmet fans say "Any fall off a bike can kill you." Non-fans say "Same for any fall off _anything_. But bike head injuries are less than 1% of the US totals. Falls around the home are 40%, injuries inside cars are 50%. Don't single out cyclists." Helmet fans say "It's not just fatalities. Helmets prevent smaller injuries too, and you certainly don't want even a minor injury." Non-fans say "Minor injuries, like fatalities, occur in all sorts of activities. Again, don't single out cycling." Helmet fans say "But over 500,000 Americans visit emergency rooms each year due to bike crashes." Non-fans say "Over 400,000 visit ERs due to accidents involving their beds! Big numbers prove only that America is a big place." Helmet fans say "But helmets prevent up to 85% of head injuries." Non-fans say "That 85% claim came from only one tiny, poorly-constructed study. It's never stood up in any examination of the effects of widespread helmet use. For example, no jurisdiction has seen anything close to that benefit after imposing a mandatory helmet law." Helmet fans say "But many other studies predict some benefit, even if not as great." Non-fans say "Case-control studies of small, self-selected populations generally predict benefit. Large studies of general populations (after imposition of helmet laws) find little or no benefit, and they are more 'real world'." Helmet fans say "Think of the public health cost of the injuries." Non-fans say "Overpromoting or mandating helmets reduces cycling, which causes more, not less, public health cost. Cycling has been shown to have benefits far greater than its tiny risks." Helmet fans say "I was saved from serious injury or death by my helmet." Non-fans say "That's absolutely unprovable. People have survived bike crashes of every type for a hundred years. Dented styrofoam proves only that styrofoam can be dented." Helmet fans say "If everyone wore a helmet every time they rode, fatalities or head injuries would drop tremendously." Non-fans say "Helmet use has greatly increased, yet there is no good evidence of any corresponding reduction in head injuries - instead, head injuries per rider seem to have actually increased." Helmet fans say "It's such an easy thing to do." Non-fans say "It's ineffective. It would be much better to put the energy into teaching proper riding, and into enforcing existing traffic laws." Helmet fans say "Promoting helmets can only help." Non-fans say "It's more likely to scare people away from cycling, and that hurts." Obviously, you can tell which side I'm on! But if you want a site that disagrees with me, the most popular one is the Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute (actually, a mostly one-man operation) at http://www.bhsi.org One site that disagrees with the BHSI is http://www.magma.ca/~ocbc/ .... and be sure to click on the "Helmet FAQ" link at the left. Another site, a new one (somewhat under construction) concentrates on British data. http://www.cyclehelmets.org/ That said, certified helmets are all essentially the same. ... This was part of the problem in the survey I mentioned. The magazine dropped helmets on to three different shaped anvils and analysed the results. Many of the helmets did next to nothing to absorb the impact despite the fact that all conformed to one or other of the two main standards. I wondered if there were helmets that are known to be effective. Present bike helmets offer only low levels of protection, and future ones will doubless be little better. This is simple physics. To increase protection from a straight-on impact, you'll need thicker material, since it takes more distance to stop something (e.g. your head) more gently. But thicker material means more weight, less ventilation, and (most seriously) more chance that the helmet will actually receive an impact. (If a bare head misses collision by 1/2 inch, a helmet will hit. Larger helmets will be hit harder and more frequently. Furthermore, larger helmets offer more "lever arm" for tangential impacts, and would thus be expected to increase the particularly damaging rotational accelerations of the brain. Incidentally, the pro-helmet American magazine Consumer Reports has tested bike helmets several times. Although they do not give numerical values for impact protection (nobody seems to tell the American public how low the protection levels really are!) they've given comparative, non-numerical bar graphs. In each test, the most expensive helmets have been the _least_ protective! When you think about it, that's logical. To get minimum weight and maximum ventilation, you need to skim as close to the minimum impact standard as possible. And this razor's edge design time costs money! - Frank Krygowski |
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Frank,
Excellent summation, without the diatribes. Rick "Frank Krygowski" wrote in message m... "DDEckerslyke" wrote in message ... ....long summary deleted |
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Trudi Marrapodi wrote:
In article , (Frank Krygowski) wrote: Helmet fans say "Any fall off a bike can kill you." Not necessarily. I fell off mine but good today--but despite being badly scraped up, was nowhere near being killed. For one thing, I fell sideways, Sounds like you know how to fall. (a skill worth more than any bike helmet, as falling without bashing your head negates any need for the helmet) I know of at least one young woman who died after a club ride. She rode into the parking lot, and tipped over onto flat pavement. Hit headfirst and died. I don't know if she was wearing a helmet. Another example, somebody I knew: Elderly couple (~80 yrs) on tandem. Dog took out front wheel. Fell over sideways, stoker pretty much had her skull shattered, spent weeks in the hospital. Was promoted as a "helmet saved a life" incident in the club we were in at the time. The helmet was, IIRC, a Bell Tourlight. You simply can't find anything as effective as that helmet marketed for road cycling today. I can't see where it did her any noticeable good, a fall without it would have broken her skull, as did a fall with it. Mitch. |
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Mitch Haley writes:
Another example, somebody I knew: Elderly couple (~80 yrs) on tandem. Dog took out front wheel. Fell over sideways, stoker pretty much had her skull shattered, spent weeks in the hospital. Was promoted as a "helmet saved a life" incident in the club we were in at the time. The helmet was, IIRC, a Bell Tourlight. You simply can't find anything as effective as that helmet marketed for road cycling today. I can't see where it did her any noticeable good, a fall without it would have broken her skull, as did a fall with it. Since the injury was serious enough for her to spend weeks in the hospital, it is believable that you wouldn't have to increase the damage by very much for it to be fatal. So, the helmet could very well have made a difference as to whether she survived, or at least might have shortened her hospital stay. Just cutting a day off of her stay in a hospital would probably more than pay for all the helmets she would have bought over a lifetime. Bill -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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