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Werehatrack wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:14:36 CST, "Phil, Squid-in-Training" may have said: wrote: Your bike sounds like a prime candidate to become a singlespeed. LOL nice way to look at it... If half the right dropout is gone, it's not much of a candidate for conversion until the dropout has been replaced. (Not to mention the possible bent stays.) -- I figured he snapped off part of the hanger. Half of the dropout would be impressive. Bent aluminum stays? Really? You think? /s -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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Bob Schwartz wrote: Look, it was his own damn fault. Frames don't fail that way without some measure of operator error. If it was a replaceable, breakaway hanger, there was no frame failure, the hanger broke away as it was designed to do. Unfortunately, after it broke was when the real damage occurred, but you can't expect the manufacturer to cover collateral damage like that. He should suck it up and buy a new bike or frame and not expect Trek to cover for his mistakes. I agree that he will have to buy a new bike, and that it is unreasonable for Trek to cover the damage, if in fact it was a replaceable, breakaway hanger that broke off. This is flat out bull****. I've broken my share of bikes. The really hairy frame failures have all involved steel. The only damage I've done to any of the aluminum bikes I've owned was my own damn fault. Your personal experience is not proof of anything. Aluminum is not designed to be stressed. The clever workaround is the replaceable, breakaway, derailleur hanger, which is designed to prevent frame damage. As the orignal poster found, things don't always fail in the perfect manner. Aluminum has some good attributes, it's light and it's cheap. But in some cases, it's better to have something bendable than breakable. -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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wrote: Your personal experience is not proof of anything. Aluminum is not designed to be stressed. The clever workaround is the replaceable, breakaway, derailleur hanger, which is designed to prevent frame damage. As the orignal poster found, things don't always fail in the perfect manner. Aluminum has some good attributes, it's light and it's cheap. But in some cases, it's better to have something bendable than breakable. :-) "Aluminum is not designed to be stressed!" IOW, we should all rush out and get good solid steel parts to replace our aluminum frames. And aluminum cranks. And aluminum brakes. And aluminum derailleurs. And handlebars. And stems. And rims. And hubs. And seatposts... Sadly, I don't think your posts have anything to do with April First! - Frank Krygowski -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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Don't made bikes made in asia if you care about safety. Buy
cannondale or american made. -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
Look, it was his own damn fault. Frames don't fail that way without some measure of operator error. He should suck it up and buy a new bike or frame and not expect Trek to cover for his mistakes. Several years ago, while JRA, I ran over a stick (or perhaps, a vicious and wily stick jumped up and attacked my innocent rear wheel). It lodged into the wheel and ripped the derailleur out of the rear hanger, bent the aluminum hanger, broke one spoke and bent a couple of others. I consider that my own damn fault, not the manufacturer's. Dan complained: I was not happy. I had to walk 8 miles home while contending with a pair of minor stress fractures in the legs Poor baby. I took out my CPR-9, removed the broken derailleur, shortened the chain to turn the bike into a single-speed, and did a rough true of the wheel. Then I rode 10 miles home. -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 00:44:30 CST, wrote:
Don't made bikes made in asia if you care about safety. Buy cannondale or american made. Who the crap added rbr to these posts and let the tech nuts loose? If you're riding like a townie and the shifter breaks, you either need to learn to shift or take the bike back to the shop when it starts to make the funny grinding noises. If you claim to be able to do all that and are riding hard, then you need to learn that **** happens and its part of the game. I had a really bad day once, making the mistake of riding the day after high school graduation. Even with dodging and trying to look ahead until I was blind, I managed to go through two spares and the four patches I had. Hitched a ride home in the back of migrant worker's pick-up truck. Didn't sue the bike shop for not telling me tires get flats, didn't sue Budweiser for making cheap ass bottles and didn't sue Cheng Shin for the tubes. I did give the migrant worker a six pack in cans... Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 00:44:30 CST, wrote:
Don't made bikes made in asia if you care about safety. Buy cannondale or american made. I hate to tell you this, but I have been in a few Taiwan bicycle factories where they asked me not to photograph the "American made" frames they were building. More than 90% of the world's highest bike technology comes from a small corridor in Taiwan, part of Taichung. China is a different matter altogether. Michael J. Klein Yangmei Jen (Hukou), Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings --------------------------------------------- -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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Cannondale is still made in USA and my 2002 lemond was also made in
usa. -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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"Michael J. Klein" wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 00:44:30 CST, wrote: Don't made bikes made in asia if you care about safety. Buy cannondale or american made. I hate to tell you this, but I have been in a few Taiwan bicycle factories where they asked me not to photograph the "American made" frames they were building. More than 90% of the world's highest bike technology comes from a small corridor in Taiwan, part of Taichung. China is a different matter altogether. Yes, in China, they don't want you to photograph the "Taiwan made" bicycles. (I'm not kidding). Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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