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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:17:54 +1000, Andrew & Joanne wrote:
I am currently compiling a paper regarding the registration of bicycles for use on our roads. Now at the risk of being called a troll, and evoking emotional and abusive replies, I would like to ask you all a few questions to gauge your reactions to the following questions. Did horse & carts ever have to pay rego? .... but we still had roads right ? Aren't most rego taxes used for things other than roads anyway? In NSW (Australia) I figured only the 3 cent fuel tax was spent on roads. The RTA must spend 120% of it's budget on their overly patronising advertising campains. -kt |
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head /head body Greetings, br No, horses and carts paid tolls instead. I'm currently doing some research on local history. Before local councils were set up, most districts had Roads Boards, which not only charged rates, but also levied tolls on road users. This system lasted for several decades, and like tolls of a later era was met with degrees of abuse of the toll-keepers and evasion. Thought that might interest you. br Regards, br Ray. br br kingsley wrote:br blockquote type="cite" cite="midan.2003.03.23.08.04.03.869725@maddogsbr eakfast.com.au" pre wrap=""On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:17:54 +1000, Andrew & Joanne wrote:brbrbr/pre blockquote type="cite" pre wrap=""I am currently compiling a paper regarding the registration of bicycles forbruse on our roads. Now at the risk of being called a troll, and evokingbremotional and abusive replies, I would like to ask you all a few questionsbrto gauge your reactions to the following questions.br/pre /blockquote pre wrap=""!----brbrDid horse & carts ever have to pay rego?br... but we still had roads right ?brbrAren't most rego taxes used for things other than roadsbranyway? In NSW (Australia) I figured only the 3 cent fuel tax wasbrspent on roads. The RTA must spend 120% of it's budget onbrtheir overly patronising advertising campains.brbr-ktbrbrbr/pre /blockquote br /body /html |
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We have been hereabouts too often... Why is it that people
think the small amount they pay in car registration somehow manages to fund construction and maintenance of our huge road network? Registration fees from motor vehicles make NO CONTRIBUTION WHATSOEVER to most roads cyclists use. In most states, these fund only highways and a very few major urban arterials. For the most part, federal and state petrol taxes are spent similarly. Most of our urban road network was originally built by property developers, and paid for by the people who bought the blocks they sold. Maintenance is done by local government and paid for out of the rates property owners (and hence renters) pay. Why cyclists should be deemed to be not funding this network is incomprehensible. |
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Ray Peace wrote in
: Please don't with the html, the posting, it hurts my head it does. usenet is a plaintext forum, and a lot of people do not have readers that parse html. -Bill Hamilton head /head body Greetings, br No, horses and carts paid tolls instead. I'm currently doing some research on local history. Before local councils were set up, most districts had Roads Boards, which not only charged rates, but also levied tolls on road users. This system lasted for several decades, and like tolls of a later era was met with degrees of abuse of the toll-keepers and evasion. Thought that might interest you. br Regards, br Ray. br br kingsley wrote:br blockquote type="cite" cite="midan.2003.03.23.08.04.03.869725@maddogsbr eakfast.com.au" pre wrap=""On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:17:54 +1000, Andrew & Joanne wrote:brbrbr/pre blockquote type="cite" pre wrap=""I am currently compiling a paper regarding the registration of bicycles forbruse on our roads. Now at the risk of being called a troll, and evokingbremotional and abusive replies, I would like to ask you all a few questionsbrto gauge your reactions to the following questions.br/pre /blockquote pre wrap=""!----brbrDid horse & carts ever have to pay rego?br... but we still had roads right ?brbrAren't most rego taxes used for things other than roadsbranyway? In NSW (Australia) I figured only the 3 cent fuel tax wasbrspent on roads. The RTA must spend 120% of it's budget onbrtheir overly patronising advertising campains.brbr-ktbrbrbr/pre /blockquote br /body /html Attachment decoded: untitled-1.htm |
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We have been hereabouts too often... Why is it that people
think the small amount they pay in car registration somehow manages to fund construction and maintenance of our huge road network? Registration fees from motor vehicles make NO CONTRIBUTION WHATSOEVER to most roads cyclists use. In most states, these fund only highways and a very few major urban arterials. For the most part, federal and state petrol taxes are spent similarly. Most of our urban road network was originally built by property developers, and paid for by the people who bought the blocks they sold. Maintenance is done by local government and paid for out of the rates property owners (and hence renters) pay. Why cyclists should be deemed to be not funding this network is incomprehensible. |
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Ray Peace wrote in
: Please don't with the html, the posting, it hurts my head it does. usenet is a plaintext forum, and a lot of people do not have readers that parse html. -Bill Hamilton head /head body Greetings, br No, horses and carts paid tolls instead. I'm currently doing some research on local history. Before local councils were set up, most districts had Roads Boards, which not only charged rates, but also levied tolls on road users. This system lasted for several decades, and like tolls of a later era was met with degrees of abuse of the toll-keepers and evasion. Thought that might interest you. br Regards, br Ray. br br kingsley wrote:br blockquote type="cite" cite="midan.2003.03.23.08.04.03.869725@maddogsbr eakfast.com.au" pre wrap=""On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:17:54 +1000, Andrew & Joanne wrote:brbrbr/pre blockquote type="cite" pre wrap=""I am currently compiling a paper regarding the registration of bicycles forbruse on our roads. Now at the risk of being called a troll, and evokingbremotional and abusive replies, I would like to ask you all a few questionsbrto gauge your reactions to the following questions.br/pre /blockquote pre wrap=""!----brbrDid horse & carts ever have to pay rego?br... but we still had roads right ?brbrAren't most rego taxes used for things other than roadsbranyway? In NSW (Australia) I figured only the 3 cent fuel tax wasbrspent on roads. The RTA must spend 120% of it's budget onbrtheir overly patronising advertising campains.brbr-ktbrbrbr/pre /blockquote br /body /html Attachment decoded: untitled-1.htm |
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:54:18 +1000, "kingsley"
wrote: Did horse & carts ever have to pay rego? ... but we still had roads right ? If you can call them roads. Deep ruts and washaways were very common 100 years ago. |
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A bit more than wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:54:18 +1000, "kingsley" wrote: If you can call them roads. Deep ruts and washaways were very common 100 years ago. Here in the good old US of A it was the clamoring by the bicycling public that caused the improvement and paving of roads. Even the Via Appia was great for carts and foot traffic but would have been hell on bicycles. It seems that "we have been hoisted by our own petard". Jerry |
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A bit more than wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:54:18 +1000, "kingsley" wrote: If you can call them roads. Deep ruts and washaways were very common 100 years ago. Here in the good old US of A it was the clamoring by the bicycling public that caused the improvement and paving of roads. Even the Via Appia was great for carts and foot traffic but would have been hell on bicycles. It seems that "we have been hoisted by our own petard". Jerry |
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