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agentQ wrote: Major motion pictures are being shot on DV for the sole reason "more can be done" to what you are shooting. Not the sole reason. Not needing to develop DV is a huge reason as well, saving tons of time, and also some money. Or you can look into the Panasonic HVX. I know very little about this camera, other than the p2 cards are one of the best ways to handle HD footage. I'm not an expert on the p2 cards, but that's what Dan Heaton and Kevin McMullen are using on their current video project, and he hates the system. The cards are real expensive and limit them to 51 minutes of recording at a time (then they have to download it). The card appears to be in the PCMCIA format (like those slots in most laptops), and probably has something similar to a CF card inside it. A plain old CF card would probably be better, and a 16GB one is probably cheaper than the 4GB p2 card they were using. So check into that or ask Dan if you're looking to buy. In fact, he mentioned his camera may be for sale after the project. -- johnfoss John Foss Email: "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" -- www.unicycling.com ----------------------------------------------- Man with broken collar bone say: "Have you checked your shoelaces lately?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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i just hit a pretty big setback on the video i had bin working on for the past few weeks. My computer crashed and i lost all of my work. I still have most of the clips but all my work is now gone. i have to start over on my other computer. I wish i had backed up the data somewhere. -- Tyler_N 2nd*)---, '30ft Coaster~ 'My latest video!' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_OZvXtRlgY) vanpaun wrote: It's all for the ladies....they like the clean shaven look on your uni's lower parts UniKid2 wrote: dakoroman wrote: analize lol '*MYSPACE*' (myspace.com/munirider) Barnaby flavinhavin McButterfield ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tyler_N's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16366 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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johnfoss wrote: Not the sole reason. Not needing to develop DV is a huge reason as well, saving tons of time, and also some money. This is true, and even tho money is often an issue, it is more so with smaller or indie films. There are certianly many reasons to use DV. As HDV gets better and better the major film companies cant justify spending more money. For most them a more expensive film often means a bigger paycheck. For an indie film maker it is just the oposite. johnfoss wrote: I'm not an expert on the p2 cards, but that's what Dan Heaton and Kevin McMullen are using on their current video project, and he hates the system. The cards are real expensive and limit them to 51 minutes of recording at a time (then they have to download it). The card appears to be in the PCMCIA format (like those slots in most laptops), and probably has something similar to a CF card inside it. A plain old CF card would probably be better, and a 16GB one is probably cheaper than the 4GB p2 card they were using. So check into that or ask Dan if you're looking to buy. In fact, he mentioned his camera may be for sale after the project. Just because something is not super efficient does not mean it isnt the best way to get HD to your computer. Yes they are pricey, yes you need a bunch of them for longert shoots. However there is no other way to get full HD from you camera to your computer. The only other option is MiniDV which is a favorite to most, but still old technology and you will always run the risk of dropped frames and slowing down your camera with they way it needs to save to the DVC. Also if you know prosumer cameras at all the biggest problem is the heads on a miniDV camera wareing out. That problem is solved with using cards. Right now the P2 cards are pretty much the only ones that are doing what needs to be done for High Def DV. -- agentQ '*)--SmallSpin-'O,*' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiFMXG116BE) '*)---TreFlip-'O,' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpT0YFDgmz4) '*)--DoubbleFlip-'O,*' (http://www.vimeo.com/683454) --- 'Uneed Films' (http://www.uneedfilms.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ agentQ's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13021 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Tyler_N wrote: i just hit a pretty big setback on the video i had bin working on for the past few weeks. My computer crashed and i lost all of my work. I still have *two* of the clips but all my work is now gone. i have to start over on my other computer. I wish i had backed up the data somewhere. edited. I checked to see how many i actually lost and there are only two clips left. -- Tyler_N 2nd*)---, '30ft Coaster~ 'My latest video!' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_OZvXtRlgY) vanpaun wrote: It's all for the ladies....they like the clean shaven look on your uni's lower parts UniKid2 wrote: dakoroman wrote: analize lol '*MYSPACE*' (myspace.com/munirider) Barnaby flavinhavin McButterfield ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tyler_N's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16366 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Do you guys uses lights mounted to your camera when filming or flood lights. I'm debating on whether to buy a light mounted to my camera because I've read bad reviews. How do you like your readylite 20 Graham? -- littleman http://sixsixone.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ littleman's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/15401 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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littleman wrote: Do you guys uses lights mounted to your camera when filming or flood lights. I'm debating on whether to buy a light mounted to my camera because I've read bad reviews. How do you like your readylite 20 Graham? if i were you, i'd go a floodlight, but i needed a coldshoe mounted one since i'm gonna do more portable things. I havent had to use my light yet, but its really bright. if your going to buy it, buy 2 batterys. The readylights batterys go dead really fast. You can get a floodlight at a hardware store for cheaper than the readylight lol. -- unibikeling 'sixsixone - Great equipment for all riding!' (http://sixsixone.com/) ' Come ride with me on August 22nd and 23rd!' (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=71517), Please contact me with the provided information, considering the thread is locked. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ unibikeling's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14752 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Sam, one thing to keep in mind is that 24p footage doesn't necessarily mean lots of motion blur, that's still dependant on the shutter speed. If you want to match the feel of film as close as possible you need to be shooting at 1/48 for your shutter speed to emulate a 180 degree shutter plane. Shooting at the lower shutter speed is whats going to give you the motion blur, if you shoot at a higher shutter speed in 24p there will be less motion blur but you will start being able to see the separate frames of the video and it would start to get choppy. In short, just to be technical, its the shutter speed which determines the motion blur not the frame rate. -- Brian O. *'ProjectUNI' (http://www.projectuni.com) - *The First Serious Unicycle Computer Game** - Follow the 'progress.' (http://www.projectuni.com)'Munimage - The Imagery of Mountain Unicycling.' (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71683) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian O.'s Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10744 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Another thing to consider that may be causing the blur you speak of is the need to perform pulldown removal on your 24p footage. Lots of cameras actually put their 24p footage into a 60i stream inserting interlaced fields so unless its being played on a TV you aren't seeing actual 24p until you remove the pulldown. Heres a screen grab from 24p footage before the pulldown removal: [image: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/212/4...f9b562f_b.jpg] and here it is after the pulldown removal: [image: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/199/4...cb6db06_b.jpg] Pulldown removal is also known as inverse telecine and its worth looking into how your camera deals with 24p and whether or not you need to perform pulldown removal. Sam, I'm pretty sure your camera, the XH-A1 needs pulldown removal on 24p footage. -- Brian O. *'ProjectUNI' (http://www.projectuni.com) - *The First Serious Unicycle Computer Game** - Follow the 'progress.' (http://www.projectuni.com)'Munimage - The Imagery of Mountain Unicycling.' (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71683) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian O.'s Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10744 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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So my Panasonic pv-gs320 came in the mail monday at noon. I paid $300 but am getting $75 back from windows live. It was practically new! The camercorder had barely been used with no scratches or nothin. All the cables and instruction manuals were still in sealed plastic bags! It also came with a case, a bigger battery and a couple tapes. Heres the ebay listing: http://tinyurl.com/693z4u That afternoon I was excited to go riding and film some stuff. I got some cool street clips and I was grinding handrails (5 set) a lot better, sliding more than half of the rail. After that I took my muni, camcorder with tripod, my dog and headed off to the forest preserve. I filmed basically a whole muni movie with some 24" trials. The muni's not that technical but it was fun and I got some good shots with my dog. I rode street, trials and muni a total of about 5 hours. I ordered a fisheye lens and a firewire card. I cant wait till I get the firewire port so I can get these clips on the computer and edit them. I also need to get a wide angle lens. Final thoughts: This camcorder is awesome! Great quality shots (especially when your upgrading from a cheap 4 mp digital camera for movies). -- surfer1024 *)--SmallSpin-'O,* 1st Place)---hickflip-'O, Latest Vid: I wish I had 2 cents #f5f5f5 http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70608 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ surfer1024's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13733 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/66735 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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