Popularity of cycling.

On 27/11/2015 22:21, Phil W Lee wrote:
Cycle-Ops considered Fri, 27 Nov 2015
18:44:06 +0000 the perfect time to write:

On 26/11/2015 11:40, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 9:39:24 AM UTC, Alycidon wrote:

He has just bought himself a brand new 2015 Citron Nemo van.

This one - YW15 FRR ?

Unknown. That's the registration mark on it, but it is not confirmed that the registration belongs to the vehicle. It is highly likely that the registration has been photo shopped as no sane person would show a genuine registration on a public forum.

That registration mark was issued 5 miles from where I live - what is it doing with a Yorkshire reg number?

It is well known that Citron dealers give substantial discounts on their commercial vehicles. He claims not to have spent about £9,000 on the van, so perhaps he managed to negotiate a better discount with a Yorkshire dealership.

Or perhaps you're a complete ****wit.

I don't own a van.

LIAR.

So the bailiffs have already visited?

Jolly good.

Thank you for confirming you are as big a **** as Salt & Wriggler.

And yet another false identity for my killfile.

The last refuge of the intellectually retarded.

--
Dave
Dedicated to finding a cure for cycling.

On 27/11/2015 23:20, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 8:45:23 PM UTC, Cycle-Ops wrote:
On 27/11/2015 20:06, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 7:07:53 PM UTC, Cycle-Ops wrote:
When you wind up a group of ****wit cyclists to the point that they all
start discussing your new van.

And still are! How sad.

Liar.

You don't own a van. Or were you lying about not owning one.

I don't own a van, thicko.

So Plankwit leases a van?

It finally got through your thick skull into what we laughingly call
your brain.

Another financial blunder...

Oh is it? Perhaps you can explain why? And make a **** of yourself again.

Waits for good laugh



--
Dave
Dedicated to finding a cure for cycling.

On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 11:35:47 PM UTC, Cycle-Ops wrote:
On 27/11/2015 23:20, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 8:45:23 PM UTC, Cycle-Ops wrote:
On 27/11/2015 20:06, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 7:07:53 PM UTC, Cycle-Ops wrote:
When you wind up a group of ****wit cyclists to the point that they all
start discussing your new van.

And still are! How sad.

Liar.

You don't own a van. Or were you lying about not owning one.

I don't own a van, thicko.

So Plankwit leases a van?

It finally got through your thick skull into what we laughingly call
your brain.

Another financial blunder...

Oh is it? Perhaps you can explain why? And make a **** of yourself again.

On Saturday, 28 November 2015 09:03:08 UTC, Tom Crispin wrote:

My opinion:
As with nearly everything, cash is the cheapest way to make a van purchase, and large discounts can be negotiated with the dearlership. Leasing is simply idiotic, although an easy way to have a new vehicle. It is just another way money is transferred from the plankwitted to those with more than an ounce of intelligence.

Leasing is nearly always a financial blunder.

There is another option.
Get the mug car company to give you a free deposit.
Charge you 0% over 4 years.
Pay a modest final sum and it's all yours.

http://www.alfaromeo.co.uk/finance-offers/giulietta

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 19:07:52 +0000, Cycle-Ops wrote:

When you wind up a group of ****wit cyclists to the point that they all
start discussing your new van.

Ha ha ha ha!

What a sad bunch of ******s!!

I haven't noticed.

On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 9:19:58 AM UTC, Alycidon wrote:
On Saturday, 28 November 2015 09:03:08 UTC, Tom Crispin wrote:

My opinion:
As with nearly everything, cash is the cheapest way to make a van purchase, and large discounts can be negotiated with the dearlership. Leasing is simply idiotic, although an easy way to have a new vehicle. It is just another way money is transferred from the plankwitted to those with more than an ounce of intelligence.

Leasing is nearly always a financial blunder.

There is another option.
Get the mug car company to give you a free deposit.
Charge you 0% over 4 years.
Pay a modest final sum and it's all yours.

http://www.alfaromeo.co.uk/finance-offers/giulietta

These offers always exclude the cash discount buyers can negotiate with the dealership.
http://broadspeed.com/new_cars/Alfa_Romeo/Giulietta/
Better discounts to those on this commercial website are also available, but showing this to a dealership should give you an automatic £3000 off the most basic model.

A finance purchase is infinitely preferable to leasing where you pay your money but have no asset to show for it.

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 09:19:54 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Saturday, 28 November 2015 09:03:08 UTC, Tom Crispin wrote:

My opinion:
As with nearly everything, cash is the cheapest way to make a van
purchase, and large discounts can be negotiated with the dearlership.
Leasing is simply idiotic, although an easy way to have a new vehicle.
It is just another way money is transferred from the plankwitted to
those with more than an ounce of intelligence.

Leasing is nearly always a financial blunder.

There is another option.
Get the mug car company to give you a free deposit.
Charge you 0% over 4 years.
Pay a modest final sum and it's all yours.

http://www.alfaromeo.co.uk/finance-offers/giulietta

I'm not sure that would make a very good van.
Anyway, (back to NG topic) how many bicycles can you get in it?

--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

On 28/11/2015 09:03, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 11:35:47 PM UTC, Cycle-Ops wrote:
On 27/11/2015 23:20, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 8:45:23 PM UTC, Cycle-Ops wrote:
On 27/11/2015 20:06, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 7:07:53 PM UTC, Cycle-Ops
wrote:
When you wind up a group of ****wit cyclists to the point
that they all start discussing your new van.

And still are! How sad.

Liar.

You don't own a van. Or were you lying about not owning one.

I don't own a van, thicko.

So Plankwit leases a van?

It finally got through your thick skull into what we laughingly
call your brain.

Another financial blunder...

Oh is it? Perhaps you can explain why? And make a **** of
yourself again.

Waits for good laugh

My opinion:

Worth nothing.

As with nearly everything, cash is the cheapest way to
make a van purchase, and large discounts can be negotiated with the
dearlership.


An individual cannot negotiate a better discount with a "dearlership"
that a multi million pound lease company, you halfwit.


Leasing is simply idiotic, although an easy way to have
a new vehicle. It is just another way money is transferred from the
plankwitted to those with more than an ounce of intelligence.

Which is why 80% of new vehicles are leased? Is everybody else out of
step?

Leasing is nearly always a financial blunder.

I've snipped all the stuff you Googled and didn't understand properly.
That doesn't count as an answer.

All you need to consider is depreciation and tax relief.

You are a special kind of stupid. You need to get yourself an accountant
before you go skint.

--
Dave
Dedicated to finding a cure for cycling.

On 28/11/2015 10:04, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 9:19:58 AM UTC, Alycidon wrote:
On Saturday, 28 November 2015 09:03:08 UTC, Tom Crispin wrote:

My opinion: As with nearly everything, cash is the cheapest way
to make a van purchase, and large discounts can be negotiated
with the dearlership. Leasing is simply idiotic, although an easy
way to have a new vehicle. It is just another way money is
transferred from the plankwitted to those with more than an ounce
of intelligence.

Leasing is nearly always a financial blunder.

There is another option. Get the mug car company to give you a free
deposit. Charge you 0% over 4 years. Pay a modest final sum and
it's all yours.

http://www.alfaromeo.co.uk/finance-offers/giulietta

These offers always exclude the cash discount buyers can negotiate
with the dealership.

Wow! Salt & Wriggler can negotiate a better discount than a major lease
company that buys thousands of vehicles a year!
How does he manage it?

I'll bet he could have got a better price on my Citroen van than Citroen
Finance did!

Oh, hang on a minute.....


http://broadspeed.com/new_cars/Alfa_Romeo/Giulietta/ Better discounts
to those on this commercial website are also available, but showing
this to a dealership should give you an automatic £3000 off the most
basic model.

A finance purchase is infinitely preferable to leasing where you pay
your money but have no asset to show for it.

And in four years the 'asset' is worth 20% of the cash you paid for it.

Get yourself an accountant, you are clearly an incompetent fool.

--
Dave
Dedicated to finding a cure for cycling.

On 28/11/2015 10:04, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 9:19:58 AM UTC, Alycidon wrote:
On Saturday, 28 November 2015 09:03:08 UTC, Tom Crispin wrote:

My opinion:
As with nearly everything, cash is the cheapest way to make a van purchase, and large discounts can be negotiated with the dearlership. Leasing is simply idiotic, although an easy way to have a new vehicle. It is just another way money is transferred from the plankwitted to those with more than an ounce of intelligence.

Leasing is nearly always a financial blunder.

There is another option.
Get the mug car company to give you a free deposit.
Charge you 0% over 4 years.
Pay a modest final sum and it's all yours.

http://www.alfaromeo.co.uk/finance-offers/giulietta

These offers always exclude the cash discount buyers can negotiate with the dealership.
http://broadspeed.com/new_cars/Alfa_Romeo/Giulietta/
Better discounts to those on this commercial website are also available, but showing this to a dealership should give you an automatic £3000 off the most basic model.

A finance purchase is infinitely preferable to leasing where you pay your money but have no asset to show for it.

Commercial vehicles, after a life of working hard, are usually worth
very little.

The "asset" - such as it is in those circumstances - can be illusory. A
well-used commercial vehicle can be difficult to liquidate, but still
needs to be maintained, garaged and kept up to date with MOT, insurance,
Road Tax, etc.

Trust me.