Mounting kickstand

My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at

http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg

looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike.

If memory serves, one uses an additional upper clampy thing on bikes
that don't have that bracket -- the mounting bolt of the kickstand
smooshes an upper clamp down on the chainstays, like how saddle rails
are pinched between the upper and lower clamp parts of a seatpost.

I guess, then, that my options for kickstanding our two little
Specialized Sirrus city bikes are to use the Pletscher type with its
clamp, or something like the Minoura stand as shown at

http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...68/20-107c.jpg

About that latter, Rivendell writes that it is more stable [than a
Pletscher type, I presume] but also "less stealth-like (sneakers be
warned!)"

Huh? Whazzat mean? More people will notice a Minoura type kickstand, but
their sneakers will be at risk? Or if they try to sneak off with it . .
.. something bad will happen?

--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel"
Bend, Oregon

On Sep 23, 5:46 am, Rocket J Squirrel
wrote:
My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at

http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg

looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike.

If memory serves, one uses an additional upper clampy thing on bikes
that don't have that bracket -- the mounting bolt of the kickstand
smooshes an upper clamp down on the chainstays, like how saddle rails
are pinched between the upper and lower clamp parts of a seatpost.

I guess, then, that my options for kickstanding our two little
Specialized Sirrus city bikes are to use the Pletscher type with its
clamp, or something like the Minoura stand as shown at

http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...68/20-107c.jpg

About that latter, Rivendell writes that it is more stable [than a
Pletscher type, I presume] but also "less stealth-like (sneakers be
warned!)"

Huh? Whazzat mean? More people will notice a Minoura type kickstand, but
their sneakers will be at risk? Or if they try to sneak off with it . .
. something bad will happen?

Translation: the Minoura's fuggin ugly. I'd get a Greenfield for $8
and be done with it. If you have a tight cluster to sammich it in with
clearance problem due to a top swing derailler like comes with the new
Sirri, you can either drill a hole in the top plate for cable routing
(easy as it's soft cast alu) or use the "alternate" top plate with a
cutaway. I recommend the drilling--it's really easy. Don't forget to
get a little rubber footsie.

Rocket J Squirrel wrote:

:Huh? Whazzat mean? More people will notice a Minoura type kickstand, but
:their sneakers will be at risk? Or if they try to sneak off with it . .
:. something bad will happen?

No, they mean that people will notice you have a kickstand. Among
people who pretend they're bike racers, there's an irrational fear
of kickstands. These people will make fun of you, while they are
frantcially looking for a place to lean their bike against, while you
just flick the kickstand down and you're done.

Any bike shop can sell you a greefield kickstand much like the
fancy-schmancy swiss one, but cheaper, complete with a top clamp
plate, and made in Long Island, NY. Splurge and get the rubber foot.
Greefield also make a chain stay type, also less than the fancy
imported stuff.

--
sig 124

Per David Scheidt:
Among
people who pretend they're bike racers, there's an irrational fear
of kickstands.

I suspect that fear extends to bells.
--
PeteCresswell

"Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message
...
My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at

http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg

looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike.

If memory serves, one uses an additional upper clampy thing on bikes
that don't have that bracket -- the mounting bolt of the kickstand
smooshes an upper clamp down on the chainstays, like how saddle rails
are pinched between the upper and lower clamp parts of a seatpost.

I guess, then, that my options for kickstanding our two little
Specialized Sirrus city bikes are to use the Pletscher type with its
clamp, or something like the Minoura stand as shown at

http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...68/20-107c.jpg

About that latter, Rivendell writes that it is more stable [than a
Pletscher type, I presume] but also "less stealth-like (sneakers be
warned!)"

Huh? Whazzat mean? More people will notice a Minoura type kickstand,
but their sneakers will be at risk? Or if they try to sneak off with
it . . . something bad will happen?

--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel"
Bend, Oregon

I have a Greenfield on my 2008 sirrus, you need the universal top
bracket and modify it for the front derailleur cable.
Email me for some pictures.

Cheers

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
:Per David Scheidt:
: Among
:people who pretend they're bike racers, there's an irrational fear
:of kickstands.

:I suspect that fear extends to bells.

It extends to nearly anything that makes the bike a useful vehicle for
anything other than going fast. Fenders, lights, racks, bells,
kickstands, even spokes.

--
sig 39

Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at

http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg

looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike.

If memory serves, one uses an additional upper clampy thing on bikes
that don't have that bracket -- the mounting bolt of the kickstand
smooshes an upper clamp down on the chainstays, like how saddle rails
are pinched between the upper and lower clamp parts of a seatpost.

I guess, then, that my options for kickstanding our two little
Specialized Sirrus city bikes are to use the Pletscher type with its
clamp, or something like the Minoura stand as shown at

http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...68/20-107c.jpg

About that latter, Rivendell writes that it is more stable [than a
Pletscher type, I presume] but also "less stealth-like (sneakers be
warned!)"

Huh? Whazzat mean? More people will notice a Minoura type kickstand, but
their sneakers will be at risk? Or if they try to sneak off with it . .
. something bad will happen?

I have both types, depending on the bike (but not the super-expensive
ones from Rivendell.

For the Pletscher type, I covered the plates with heat shrink tubing
prior to attacking them. The rear type interferes with a trailer hitch,
and is less stable.

I'd get the Greenfield from REI
"http://www.rei.com/product/612109?preferredSku=6121090010" and cut it
to size. Stay away from adjustable length kick stands.

I have one similar to this "http://www.rei.com/product/724326" and it sucks.

One advantage of the rear mount kickstands is that you can more easily
maneuver the bike with kickstand down since the pedals won't hit the
kickstand.

You might want to check out my bicycle kickstand web site, though it's
still under construction, "http://nordicgroup.us/kickstands/".

On 9/22/2008 5:26 PM SMS wrote:

[snip]

For the Pletscher type, I covered the plates with heat shrink tubing
prior to attacking them.

Jeez. You're rough on your bike stuff.

--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel"

Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
On 9/22/2008 5:26 PM SMS wrote:

[snip]

For the Pletscher type, I covered the plates with heat shrink tubing
prior to attacking them.

Jeez. You're rough on your bike stuff.

Yes I am.

On Sep 23, 9:09 am, Mike Rocket J Squirrel
wrote:
On 9/22/2008 5:26 PM SMS wrote:

[snip]



For the Pletscher type, I covered the plates with heat shrink tubing
prior to attacking them.

Jeez. You're rough on your bike stuff.

--
Seems a bit much to me as well..

One thing to keep in mind, don't get the black Greenfield stands.
Dumbest thing they ever did. Paint chips off quite easily if you
actually use the the things--stick with plain aluminum.

I'm headed out to buy one for the folder I'm restoring. You just can't
go wrong with a Greenfield. Doiiiiiing!