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Old April 28th 04, 06:01 AM
Ryan Cousineau
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In article XaFjc.33319$cF6.1542662@attbi_s04,
"Claire Petersky" wrote:


I get a call today, Tuesday, from Jim, the guy who I know and trust, who has
done a lot of work for me. Jim says that he had a chance to look at the
bike. No, it doesn't need the drive train replaced. Yeah, the chain is a
little worn, as is the cassette, but it's really not that bad. The pulleys
definitely need to be replaced, which he did. Then the whole thing just
needed a bit of adjustment. It won't shift like a dream, but it isn't so
bad. Also, he said that the cones were in bad shape, and so he replaced
those, and repacked the hubs. I can pick up the bike today.

I come to the shop after work. Jim's already left for the day. I stand
around and yak with the bike shop people for a bit -- Tom, who is a floor
salesman, suggests I look at some new Fuji (which they don't carry), because
he thinks the women-specific design would fit me. We talk about the recent
issue of Bicycling, and the merits of The shop slip shows the following
work: the handlebar tape replacement, the cable replacement, and some very
minimal labor charge. Total cost: about $23, including $9 in handlebar tape.
The pulleys, the cones, etc. not mentioned. The old cones are in a little
baggie, hanging from the handlebars, I guess so I can see how they were
messed up and required replacement.


Yeah, that's a shop you want to hold on to, that one.


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Old April 28th 04, 06:14 AM
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Cathy Kearns wrote:

Even if the seat was all the way to the frame I would not be able
to reach the pedals or the handle bars in the front. It would require
a new frame. Stock frames tend to be large/medium medium/medium
medium/small, and rarely, large/small. Ours is a large/small. If you
had a medium/medium and it fit your team you could change around.


Ah; I didn't realize they made tandem frames with variable front/rear
sizing ratios, but I guess it makes sense.

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Old April 28th 04, 06:19 AM
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Mark Hickey wrote:

There is NO comparison between the upper body strength required to
captain a tandem and to ride a "half-bike". Just riding along taking
corners at an easy pace, the difference doesn't matter much.

But climb out of the saddle or get into a situation where you really
have to move the bike around and it can be surprising how much upper
body is involved. When climbing out of the saddle at a good pace the
front tire feels like it wants to scrub sideways - odd until you get
used to it... and it take a fair amount of strength to keep the thing
pointed forward.


.... and Frank Krygowski wrote:

I've needed some strength under two circumstances: when stopped, or when
doing tight maneuvering at very low speeds.

We've had a few times when I've come to a stop unexpectedly and suddenly
had to put the "wrong" foot down. In that case, it can require a bit of
muscle to keep the tandem from tipping. (You don't want to have this
happen more than once every couple years, or your stoker won't trust
you.)


Ah; these are the sorts of answers I was hoping to get.

In very slow speed maneuvering, you sometimes have to work the handlebars
a bit. In fact, on our tandem, I've never broken a back spoke (48 spoke
wheel) but I've broken two or three _front_ spokes, each time in slow
parking lot maneuvers. I think this indicates that you sometimes exert
significant forces on those bars.


Why do broken spokes indicate force on the bars? I was given to understand
that spokes break from fatigue, and it's hard to see how the two are
related.

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Old April 28th 04, 06:26 AM
Ryan Cousineau
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In article usFjc.33560$YP5.2716031@attbi_s02,
"Claire Petersky" wrote:

[that wasn't supposed to be sent yet, sorry -- just a couple more things I
wanted to add]


No prob. Except I responded to the original in another thread.

Someone, I know, is going to reply to this saying that I should do my own
work. My response: you don't have to take up gynacology to enjoy sex, and
you don't have to take up wrenching to enjoy bicycling. It's not something I
enjoy. Let someone who does enjoy it, who has the skill and knowledge (like
Jim) do that. I like riding the bike -- messing with its mechanism is
b-o-r-i-n-g.


Horses for courses

I have a little listing on my whiteboard beside the computer right now,
detailing plans for bike mods. Having turned my Pinarello into a race
bike, my Bianchi into a commuter, and my mountain bike into, um, a
mountain bike with a working fork, better brakes, and new wheels...where
was I? Oh yes. I've moved onto harder things:

Item 3 is a shifter upgrade for Rebecca's bike-path bike. It's getting
6-speed indexing.

Item 2 is a now-delayed plan to turn an innocent Auto-Mini into a really
fast folding bike with 7-speed gearhub.

Item 1, though, that's the one I'm proud of: a 7-speed MTB drivetrain
will be mounted on a BMX bike. A 64t ring from my collection will
provide a perfect range.

The hard stuff rules,

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Old April 28th 04, 06:54 AM
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In article usFjc.33560$YP5.2716031@attbi_s02,
"Claire Petersky" writes:

I like riding the bike -- messing with its mechanism is
b-o-r-i-n-g.


It can also be icky when you'd rather have clean hands.
And as soon as ya get bike goop on your hands, the phone
rings.


- Tom

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Old April 28th 04, 09:08 AM
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Claire Petersky wrote:

o I'm close enough to him to *smell* him. And this was on only a 15 mile
thing largely in the late afternoon shade. Makes me wonder if we'll really
do the Flying Wheels Century together on that thing. He'll be pretty ripe on
a summer's day after a hundred miles.


Hang a couple of those automobile air fresheners people hang on
their mirrors down the back of his jersey and shorts. Pine scent
ought to do nicely. ;-)


-=Dave=-


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Old April 28th 04, 12:18 PM
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"Claire Petersky" wrote in message news:usFjc.33560$YP5.2716031@attbi_s02...
[that wasn't supposed to be sent yet, sorry -- just a couple more things I
wanted to add]

S N I P

Claire,

I've enjoyed your unique posts for quite some time ... but the line "
you don't have to take up gynacology to enjoy sex, and you don't have
to take up wrenching to enjoy bicycling " is soooo good that is has
been enshrined in my compendium of memorable witicisms, right up there
with " Fighting for Peace is like Screwing for Virginity " and " Vah!
Denuone Latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur. "

Speaking as an ex-wrench, it sounds like you have a Guardian Angel
looking out for you in the LBS ... cherish and nurture the
relationship ... cookies are good, good beer has been proven to be a
better lubricant than Pro Gold!

Keep em spinning.....
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Old April 28th 04, 12:42 PM
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In article XaFjc.33319$cF6.1542662@attbi_s04, cpetersky@mouse-
potato.com says...

....

asked when the work would be completed. Thursday, late, because they don't
have a Shimano 105 derailler in the shop (!!! such an exotic part !!!) and


I actually tried to buy one of these to replace the Deore on my bike
(put on a smaller cassette), but neither of the shops near me had one in
stock either.

....

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