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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
On Feb 25, 9:33*pm, Steve Sr. wrote:
Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. snip Did you email (no affiliation) kingcage yet? These are handmade, and I'll bet you a nickel that the manufacturer will stand behind them. I've had a pair for about 5 years. Work great. Have you tried their titanium tire levers? The greatest -- they work exceptionally well on tight tires. Best, Larry |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
LF wrote:
On Feb 25, 9:33�pm, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. snip Did you email (no affiliation) kingcage yet? These are handmade, and I'll bet you a nickel that the manufacturer will stand behind them. I've had a pair for about 5 years. Work great. Have you tried their titanium tire levers? The greatest -- they work exceptionally well on tight tires. Best, Larry well, /my/ king cages were never quite straight. if the op's were manufactured with the same attention to detail, i'm not sure having the manufacturer replace them with more of the same is going to do much long term good. otoh, sometimes a cheaper option can work well: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4342 these [mtb] cages are wider diameter tube and therefore stronger than typical road designs. |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
On Feb 25, 10:26*pm, jim beam wrote:
LF wrote: On Feb 25, 9:33 pm, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. snip Did you email (no affiliation) kingcage yet? *These are handmade, and I'll bet you a nickel that the manufacturer will stand behind them. I've had a pair for about 5 years. *Work great. Have you tried their titanium tire levers? *The greatest -- they work exceptionally well on tight tires. Best, Larry well, /my/ king cages were never quite straight. *if the op's were manufactured with the same attention to detail, i'm not sure having the manufacturer replace them with more of the same is going to do much long term good. otoh, sometimes a cheaper option can work well:http://www.performancebike..com/shop...81&subcategory... these [mtb] cages are wider diameter tube and therefore stronger than typical road designs.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have the Performance stainless MTB cages on all of my road bikes. No complaints in many thousands of miles. You can usually get them two for $12 or so. |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
jim beam wrote:
otoh, sometimes a cheaper option can work well: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4342 I've been using the road models for ~40k miles... perfect. |
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:29:31 -0800 (PST), Ron Ruff
wrote: jim beam wrote: otoh, sometimes a cheaper option can work well: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4342 I've been using the road models for ~40k miles... perfect. Good info. I've got the King Steel cages which are great -- that one from PC looks good too. |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
["Followup-To:" header set to rec.bicycles.misc.]
On 2009-02-27, SMS wrote: wrote: I have the Performance stainless MTB cages on all of my road bikes. No complaints in many thousands of miles. You can usually get them two for $12 or so. Yes, those are great cages at a good price. At that price there's no reason to be using aluminum cages with all their problems. What problems with alumnium cages? I have aluminum cages on all my bikes (probably over a dozen cages altogether, from Blackburn, American Classic, Cobra, REG, and others), none less than 20 years old, and no failures of any type. -- John ) |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:10:13 -0800 (PST), LF wrote:
On Feb 25, 9:33*pm, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. snip Did you email (no affiliation) kingcage yet? These are handmade, and I'll bet you a nickel that the manufacturer will stand behind them. I've had a pair for about 5 years. Work great. Have you tried their titanium tire levers? The greatest -- they work exceptionally well on tight tires. Larry, Yes, I called King Cage and they will be replacing the unit. I am also going to include some photos of the break area for them to analyze. One thing I noticed is that the cage did not seem to hold the bottle symmetrically. One of the down tubes (the side that broke) has a nice flat spot worn on it whereas the other side looks untouched. Best, Steve |
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On Feb 25, 8:26 pm, jim beam wrote:
LF wrote: On Feb 25, 9:33 pm, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. snip Did you email (no affiliation) kingcage yet? These are handmade, and I'll bet you a nickel that the manufacturer will stand behind them. I've had a pair for about 5 years. Work great. Have you tried their titanium tire levers? The greatest -- they work exceptionally well on tight tires. Best, Larry well, /my/ king cages were never quite straight. if the op's were manufactured with the same attention to detail, i'm not sure having the manufacturer replace them with more of the same is going to do much long term good. Mine were not quite straight, either. They mount straight enough on the bike, and hold the bottles straight enough, but I mean the ends where they're welded didn't quite match up. Consequently the weld looks a little bit funky. Also there is heat discoloration on the tubes near the joint. At first this kind of disappointed me, but in order to quell any OCD hangups, I quickly rationalized to myself that these are acceptable artifacts which may even lend some character to an affordable handcrafted SS cage; and so far they have been very satisfactory in service (much better than the Specialized aluminum alloy ones that they replaced). otoh, sometimes a cheaper option can work well:http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...81&subcategory... *If* for some reason the King cages just don't work out for me, I would probably go next with Blackburn SS road cages, which I have never used, but did have a chance to fondle in the LBS, and seem very well made. these [mtb] cages are wider diameter tube and therefore stronger than typical road designs. Functionality should rule, of course, but all else being acceptably within parameters, I like the aesthetics of svelte bottle cages on my road bike. |
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Robin! To the BatCage! (was: ... Bottle Cage Failures)
=v= My water bottle cage strategy has changed in recent years.
I've long preferred PETE plastic bottles over HDPE and LDPE ones because the water tastes better, but now I've taken it a step further to metal bottles. Which means plastic cages. After much trial and error (and some dented bottles) I've decided that Trek's stiff plastic "BatCage" works the best. Cateye makes a decent soft plastic cage, if you want to go that route. =v= I bought a great brass bottle made by Sigg and sold in Europe about 15 years ago. It has a pop-top lid, but the most crucial feature is that it's indented at about 5.5 inches from the bottom, which means it can fit into a standard water bottle cage. I have only recently found this bottle for sale in the U.S., and with an improved pop top. The only drawback is that it's got a narrow opening and it's hard to clean, especially under the ride where that handy indentation is. :^( Sigg sells special brush for this. )^: Kleen Kanteen is an eco-themed newcomer made of stainless steel and with a wide opening. This wide opening and the tops that fit into it (incuding a pop-top lid) is the best design I've ever seen, and the bottle is easy to use and clean. It is, unfortunately, made in China, though supposedly in an ecological and socially-responsible factory. Only the 18oz size fits in a water bottle cage. (Hot tip: If you've got a 2007 Dahon in "sage green," the "moss green" Kleen Kanteen is the same color. They must use the same ecological/socially- responsible paint supplier.) There's another brand out there called Earthlust that's the worst of both worlds: made in China and with a narrow opening. In fact it seems to be a cheap knockoff of other Sigg bottles, the ones without an indentation that'll fit in a cage. =v= Another nice one is Zefal's enamel-lined aluminum bottle. It has a nice wide opening and a pop-top lid, but I haven't seen one of these for sale in years. It's the lightest of the bunch, but the only drawback is if you drop it, it dents easily and you can crack the enamel. _Jym_ |
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