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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
On Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:03:23 PM UTC-5, Mike Vandeman wrote:
It's not considered polite to criticize someone who has died, but this guy was in fact just plain irresponsible. Mike In June 2010, Michael J. Vandeman was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon against a mountain biker. http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm He was subsequently found guilty of exhibiting a deadly weapon and battery. |
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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
On Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:03:23 PM UTC, Mike Vandeman wrote:
By studying the positive effects and ignoring the negative effects, mountain bikers and corrupt scientists have promoted the idea that mountain biking is good for your health and for the environment. We know better. How much cardiovascular benefit is required, in order to "balance" one premature death??? Personally, I don't think that any amount of "health benefit" is equal to the value of a human or animal or plant life. Life is priceless! It's not considered polite to criticize someone who has died, but this guy was in fact just plain irresponsible. What utter nonsense. The developed world's number one killer is Ischaemic Heart Disease with 15.6% of all deaths. Hypertensive Heart Disease also appears lower in the list with 2.3%. (Figures from World Health Organisation) Therefore, statistically (I believe you claim to know some maths), you are massively improving your chances of a long and healthy life by taking strenuous activity such as Mountainbiking. It is not risk free ... nothing is .... but the risks of inactivity are an order of magnitude higher. |
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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:31:33 AM UTC-8, Blackblade wrote:
On Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:03:23 PM UTC, Mike Vandeman wrote: By studying the positive effects and ignoring the negative effects, mountain bikers and corrupt scientists have promoted the idea that mountain biking is good for your health and for the environment. We know better. How much cardiovascular benefit is required, in order to "balance" one premature death??? Personally, I don't think that any amount of "health benefit" is equal to the value of a human or animal or plant life. Life is priceless! It's not considered polite to criticize someone who has died, but this guy was in fact just plain irresponsible. What utter nonsense. The developed world's number one killer is Ischaemic Heart Disease with 15.6% of all deaths. Hypertensive Heart Disease also appears lower in the list with 2.3%. (Figures from World Health Organisation) Therefore, statistically (I believe you claim to know some maths), you are massively improving your chances of a long and healthy life by taking strenuous activity such as Mountainbiking. It is not risk free ... nothing is ... but the risks of inactivity are an order of magnitude higher. Not if you end up DEAD! Are you really THAT dense??? You are ASSUMING that you don't have an accident while mountain biking. That's why your math is totally wrong. Get your head out of the sand. Better yet, leave it there, and end up dead. Sheesh. |
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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
It is not risk free ... nothing is ... but the risks of inactivity are an order of magnitude higher.
Not if you end up DEAD! Are you really THAT dense??? You are ASSUMING that you don't have an accident while mountain biking. That's why your math is totally wrong. Get your head out of the sand. Better yet, leave it there, and end up dead. Sheesh. I'm assuming nothing of the kind. I am simply pointing out that the risks of ending up dead prematurely are IMPROVED by taking strenuous exercise DESPITE the inherent risk of such activity. The risk of ending up dead from heart disease is orders of magnitude higher than the risk of mountain biking.. |
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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:15:21 AM UTC-8, Blackblade wrote:
It is not risk free ... nothing is ... but the risks of inactivity are an order of magnitude higher. Not if you end up DEAD! Are you really THAT dense??? You are ASSUMING that you don't have an accident while mountain biking. That's why your math is totally wrong. Get your head out of the sand. Better yet, leave it there, and end up dead. Sheesh. I'm assuming nothing of the kind. I am simply pointing out that the risks of ending up dead prematurely are IMPROVED by taking strenuous exercise DESPITE the inherent risk of such activity. The risk of ending up dead from heart disease is orders of magnitude higher than the risk of mountain biking. PROOF? You just FABRICATED that idea from thin air. "LIAR" is all mountain bikers' middle name. |
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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
PROOF? You just FABRICATED that idea from thin air. "LIAR" is all mountain bikers' middle name. You are really hard of understanding these days - perhaps this thinking lark is getting beyond you ! I posted the proof in this thread you idiot. Remember "Ischaemic heart disease ..." ???? I thought, as an educated man, I wouldn't have to walk you through the logical steps one by one but, clearly, you are reverting to kindergarten so here goes ... Ischaemic Heart Disease is the NUMBER ONE killer in the developed world. You are more likely to die of that than anything else ... therefore, axiomatically, all other risks (including that of dying from a strenuous activity) are lesser. Therefore, any action you take to avoid dying of Ischaemic Heart Disease improves your chances. However, cardiovascular oriented sports such as running, mountainbiking, swimming (vigorous) etc are particularly beneficial. Road traffic accidents don't even make it into the top 10 for developed countries ... and only at No. 10 for world averaged ... at 2.1%. And road traffic accidents are far far far higher than deaths from mountainbiking which are a blip on a blip on a blip. So, taking up mountainbiking, as opposed to sitting and doing nothing, drastically IMPROVES your survival rate. It also, and happily, will tend to mean that you enjoy your life rather more ... seeing as you will be taking exercise in beautiful scenery, with good friends and finding you have much more energy to enjoy your other activities. Quad Erat Demonstrandum |
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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:25:32 AM UTC-8, Blackblade wrote:
PROOF? You just FABRICATED that idea from thin air. "LIAR" is all mountain bikers' middle name. You are really hard of understanding these days - perhaps this thinking lark is getting beyond you ! I posted the proof in this thread you idiot. Remember "Ischaemic heart disease ..." ???? I thought, as an educated man, I wouldn't have to walk you through the logical steps one by one but, clearly, you are reverting to kindergarten so here goes ... Ischaemic Heart Disease is the NUMBER ONE killer in the developed world. You are more likely to die of that than anything else ... therefore, axiomatically, all other risks (including that of dying from a strenuous activity) are lesser. Therefore, any action you take to avoid dying of Ischaemic Heart Disease improves your chances. However, cardiovascular oriented sports such as running, mountainbiking, swimming (vigorous) etc are particularly beneficial. Road traffic accidents don't even make it into the top 10 for developed countries ... and only at No. 10 for world averaged ... at 2.1%. And road traffic accidents are far far far higher than deaths from mountainbiking which are a blip on a blip on a blip. So, taking up mountainbiking, as opposed to sitting and doing nothing, drastically IMPROVES your survival rate. It also, and happily, will tend to mean that you enjoy your life rather more ... seeing as you will be taking exercise in beautiful scenery, with good friends and finding you have much more energy to enjoy your other activities. Quad Erat Demonstrandum You couldn't reason your way out of a paper bag. The only question is whether mountain biking provides a NET benefit. We all know exercise is beneficial, provided there are no other factors. But in the case of mountain biking, there ARE other factors: serious injuries and DEATHS. When you subtract the HARMS from the BENEFITS, you get only HARM. Without statistics, you are just fabricating. As to the beautiful scenery, only hikers & equestrians are able to enjoy it.. Mountain bikers are doing nothing but looking at the trail directly in front of them, & have no time to "enjoy scenery". Every once in a while, a mountain biker accidentally tells the truth & admits that. You aren't that honest. |
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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
You couldn't reason your way out of a paper bag. The only question is whether mountain biking provides a NET benefit. We all know exercise is beneficial, provided there are no other factors. But in the case of mountain biking, there ARE other factors: serious injuries and DEATHS. When you subtract the HARMS from the BENEFITS, you get only HARM. Without statistics, you are just fabricating.
I have already quoted the statistics, and their source ... and you just don't understand them. Because the number one risk is mitigated any lesser risk is still just that ... lesser. Hence, you are on the right track but you have it the wrong way around; the HARM is much, much less than the BENEFIT ... therefore you have a massive net BENEFIT. Are you really this dense or just trolling again ???? |
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Is Mountain Biking Healthful Exercise?
As to the beautiful scenery, only hikers & equestrians are able to enjoy it. Mountain bikers are doing nothing but looking at the trail directly in front of them, & have no time to "enjoy scenery". Every once in a while, a mountain biker accidentally tells the truth & admits that. You aren't that honest. You've never heard of peripheral vision ????? |
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