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  #21  
Old March 11th 21, 05:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Posts: 10,538
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On 3/11/2021 12:06 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 5:03:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m. UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a large scale long term study by the CDC that stated that masks have no effect on influenza virus transmission. Since that and the covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with the same diameter and makeup this would prove that they also had no use for covid-19. Now they have not use "updated" that page but with an article that states that lockdowns, social distancing and masks were brought to us by Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the original page not only "updated" but made invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns and social distancing, is a program that was developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to impress his daughter made it an element of the NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had almost identical infection and death rates as those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your social justice warrior mentality came directly from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning your hands has any effect is rather silly since there is no practical way of even testing this. What's more since it is thought that covid-19 is spread via aerosols, of what use does washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab

Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487

"...governments will assume that such excess capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true


Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for the gander?

Since you obviously follow the news better than I, how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Andrew, by this time you should know that you shouldn't speak of diseases that are wildly infectious and deadly but treatable. Our stupid friends do not know anything about them and hence they fade into the background hidden by as very mild disease that has killed several tens of thousands that the politicians claim has killed a half million. I have already shown the CDC statistics showing the real truth but John being as intelligent as a river rock doesn't believe the CDC but instead CNN. It is like speaking to sheep.


Oddly enough, it seems like most of the world does not believe you!

Tom, if your goal is to spread those "facts" that you alone pretend to
know, you're failing - as usual! Every time you post that stuff here,
you're skipping an opportunity to tell the rest of the world. And you're
not even convincing most of us.

Get going! Call Fox News and ask for an interview!

Start up a radio talk show!

Start tweeting and get a million followers!

Do a political song and dance on TikTok!

Or at _least_ do a far right web site!

Quit wasting your time and ours.

--
- Frank Krygowski
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  #22  
Old March 11th 21, 07:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Posts: 13,447
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On 3/11/2021 9:44 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/11/2021 1:47 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 a.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:35:01 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 8:55:36 p.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:39:24 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 7:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:03:18 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m.
UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM
UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a
large scale long term study by the CDC that
stated that masks have no effect on influenza
virus transmission. Since that and the
covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with
the same diameter and makeup this would prove
that they also had no use for covid-19. Now
they have not use "updated" that page but with
an article that states that lockdowns, social
distancing and masks were brought to us by
Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the
original page not only "updated" but made
invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns
and social distancing, is a program that was
developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in
Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to
impress his daughter made it an element of the
NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following
the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had
almost identical infection and death rates as
those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your
social justice warrior mentality came directly
from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these
measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning
your hands has any effect is rather silly since
there is no practical way of even testing this.
What's more since it is thought that covid-19
is spread via aerosols, of what use does
washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the
Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian
salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus
Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab


Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised
that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487


"...governments will assume that such excess
capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to
see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true



Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news
report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their
germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is
experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER
federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or
toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for
the gander?


Since you obviously follow the news better than I,
how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe
I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Few if any. The point is that not only can pathogens
escape from the
labs run by those blokes with the slant eyes but
"even in America".


Not bloody likely. The Russians keep smallpox but even
they
don't use it as a weapon.
Ah, you mean that the Chinese deliberately released the
covid virus as
a weapon? For what purpose?
--
Cheers,

John B.

A lot of people believe that it's an ECONOMIC weapon
used to destroy or badly damage economies.

Cheers
It isn't logical is it? After all Chinese exports amount
to about 17%
of their entire economy in 2020 and 10 years ago was
about 1/4 of
their economy. and you believe that the Chinese released
a bio-weapon
to destroy the world's economy so that they could destroy
17% of their
own GDP?

Yup, makes perfect sense.
--
Cheers,

John B.


I did NOT say that I believed it. I said a LOT of PEOPLE
believed it.


I understand your disclaimer.

Seems that these days, "A lot of people believe..." can be
applied to more and more and more absolute nonsense.


Let's go back to 2015:

https://www.nature.com/news/engineer...search-1.18787

Purposeful of criminally negligent? You decide.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #23  
Old March 12th 21, 12:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,697
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:59:58 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 3/11/2021 12:06 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 5:03:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m. UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a large scale long term study by the CDC that stated that masks have no effect on influenza virus transmission. Since that and the covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with the same diameter and makeup this would prove that they also had no use for covid-19. Now they have not use "updated" that page but with an article that states that lockdowns, social distancing and masks were brought to us by Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the original page not only "updated" but made invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns and social distancing, is a program that was developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to impress his daughter made it an element of the NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had almost identical infection and death rates as those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your social justice warrior mentality came directly from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning your hands has any effect is rather silly since there is no practical way of even testing this. What's more since it is thought that covid-19 is spread via aerosols, of what use does washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab

Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487

"...governments will assume that such excess capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true


Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for the gander?

Since you obviously follow the news better than I, how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Andrew, by this time you should know that you shouldn't speak of diseases that are wildly infectious and deadly but treatable. Our stupid friends do not know anything about them and hence they fade into the background hidden by as very mild disease that has killed several tens of thousands that the politicians claim has killed a half million. I have already shown the CDC statistics showing the real truth but John being as intelligent as a river rock doesn't believe the CDC but instead CNN. It is like speaking to sheep.


Oddly enough, it seems like most of the world does not believe you!

Tom, if your goal is to spread those "facts" that you alone pretend to
know, you're failing - as usual! Every time you post that stuff here,
you're skipping an opportunity to tell the rest of the world. And you're
not even convincing most of us.

Get going! Call Fox News and ask for an interview!

Start up a radio talk show!

Start tweeting and get a million followers!

Do a political song and dance on TikTok!

Or at _least_ do a far right web site!

Quit wasting your time and ours.


As I believe that I have previously posted my cardiologist - the
senior cardiologist in the hospital - tells me that with the advent of
masks here that the usual rainy season "colds and flu" is practically
non existent this year.

Unfortunately my cardiologist had to suffer through grade school, high
school, collage, medical school, internship and specialty training
while Tom never finished high school, skipped all further schooling
and leaped (one might say) directly into the upper ranks of the
intelligentsia.
--
Cheers,

John B.

  #24  
Old March 12th 21, 01:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,697
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 10:44:16 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 3/11/2021 1:47 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 a.m. UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:35:01 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 8:55:36 p.m. UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:39:24 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 7:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:03:18 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m. UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a large scale long term study by the CDC that stated that masks have no effect on influenza virus transmission. Since that and the covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with the same diameter and makeup this would prove that they also had no use for covid-19. Now they have not use "updated" that page but with an article that states that lockdowns, social distancing and masks were brought to us by Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the original page not only "updated" but made invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns and social distancing, is a program that was developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to impress his daughter made it an element of the NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had almost identical infection and death rates as those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your social justice warrior mentality came directly from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning your hands has any effect is rather silly since there is no practical way of even testing this. What's more since it is thought that covid-19 is spread via aerosols, of what use does washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab

Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487

"...governments will assume that such excess capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true


Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for the gander?


Since you obviously follow the news better than I, how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Few if any. The point is that not only can pathogens escape from the
labs run by those blokes with the slant eyes but "even in America".


Not bloody likely. The Russians keep smallpox but even they
don't use it as a weapon.
Ah, you mean that the Chinese deliberately released the covid virus as
a weapon? For what purpose?
--
Cheers,

John B.

A lot of people believe that it's an ECONOMIC weapon used to destroy or badly damage economies.

Cheers
It isn't logical is it? After all Chinese exports amount to about 17%
of their entire economy in 2020 and 10 years ago was about 1/4 of
their economy. and you believe that the Chinese released a bio-weapon
to destroy the world's economy so that they could destroy 17% of their
own GDP?

Yup, makes perfect sense.
--
Cheers,

John B.


I did NOT say that I believed it. I said a LOT of PEOPLE believed it.


I understand your disclaimer.

Seems that these days, "A lot of people believe..." can be applied to
more and more and more absolute nonsense.


But that has been true, to a certain extent, throughout history. In
relatively recent times the Spanish war, support for which was largely
a matter of two newspapers in a battle for readers printing highly
fictitious reports which in turn supported certain members of the
government's desire for overseas territories.
--
Cheers,

John B.

  #25  
Old March 12th 21, 01:11 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,697
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:47:11 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 a.m. UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:35:01 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 8:55:36 p.m. UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:39:24 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 7:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:03:18 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m. UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a large scale long term study by the CDC that stated that masks have no effect on influenza virus transmission. Since that and the covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with the same diameter and makeup this would prove that they also had no use for covid-19. Now they have not use "updated" that page but with an article that states that lockdowns, social distancing and masks were brought to us by Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the original page not only "updated" but made invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns and social distancing, is a program that was developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to impress his daughter made it an element of the NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had almost identical infection and death rates as those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your social justice warrior mentality came directly from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning your hands has any effect is rather silly since there is no practical way of even testing this. What's more since it is thought that covid-19 is spread via aerosols, of what use does washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab

Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487

"...governments will assume that such excess capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true


Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for the gander?


Since you obviously follow the news better than I, how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Few if any. The point is that not only can pathogens escape from the
labs run by those blokes with the slant eyes but "even in America".


Not bloody likely. The Russians keep smallpox but even they
don't use it as a weapon.
Ah, you mean that the Chinese deliberately released the covid virus as
a weapon? For what purpose?
--
Cheers,

John B.

A lot of people believe that it's an ECONOMIC weapon used to destroy or badly damage economies.

Cheers

It isn't logical is it? After all Chinese exports amount to about 17%
of their entire economy in 2020 and 10 years ago was about 1/4 of
their economy. and you believe that the Chinese released a bio-weapon
to destroy the world's economy so that they could destroy 17% of their
own GDP?

Yup, makes perfect sense.
--
Cheers,

John B.


I did NOT say that I believed it. I said a LOT of PEOPLE believed it.

Cheers


Yes you are correct, in fact I find it amazing how little some people
seem understand about the subject which they espouse.
--
Cheers,

John B.

  #26  
Old March 12th 21, 01:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,697
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 13:11:33 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/11/2021 9:44 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/11/2021 1:47 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 a.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:35:01 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 8:55:36 p.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:39:24 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 7:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:03:18 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m.
UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM
UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a
large scale long term study by the CDC that
stated that masks have no effect on influenza
virus transmission. Since that and the
covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with
the same diameter and makeup this would prove
that they also had no use for covid-19. Now
they have not use "updated" that page but with
an article that states that lockdowns, social
distancing and masks were brought to us by
Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the
original page not only "updated" but made
invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns
and social distancing, is a program that was
developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in
Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to
impress his daughter made it an element of the
NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following
the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had
almost identical infection and death rates as
those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your
social justice warrior mentality came directly
from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these
measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning
your hands has any effect is rather silly since
there is no practical way of even testing this.
What's more since it is thought that covid-19
is spread via aerosols, of what use does
washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the
Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian
salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus
Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab


Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised
that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487


"...governments will assume that such excess
capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to
see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true



Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news
report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their
germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is
experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER
federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or
toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for
the gander?


Since you obviously follow the news better than I,
how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe
I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Few if any. The point is that not only can pathogens
escape from the
labs run by those blokes with the slant eyes but
"even in America".


Not bloody likely. The Russians keep smallpox but even
they
don't use it as a weapon.
Ah, you mean that the Chinese deliberately released the
covid virus as
a weapon? For what purpose?
--
Cheers,

John B.

A lot of people believe that it's an ECONOMIC weapon
used to destroy or badly damage economies.

Cheers
It isn't logical is it? After all Chinese exports amount
to about 17%
of their entire economy in 2020 and 10 years ago was
about 1/4 of
their economy. and you believe that the Chinese released
a bio-weapon
to destroy the world's economy so that they could destroy
17% of their
own GDP?

Yup, makes perfect sense.
--
Cheers,

John B.

I did NOT say that I believed it. I said a LOT of PEOPLE
believed it.


I understand your disclaimer.

Seems that these days, "A lot of people believe..." can be
applied to more and more and more absolute nonsense.


Let's go back to 2015:

https://www.nature.com/news/engineer...search-1.18787

Purposeful of criminally negligent? You decide.


Did you actually read that article you reference? I ask as the first
few lines of the article state:

"We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for
unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was
engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; "
--
Cheers,

John B.

  #27  
Old March 12th 21, 02:00 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 13,447
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On 3/11/2021 7:18 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 13:11:33 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/11/2021 9:44 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/11/2021 1:47 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 a.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:35:01 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 8:55:36 p.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:39:24 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 7:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:03:18 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m.
UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM
UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a
large scale long term study by the CDC that
stated that masks have no effect on influenza
virus transmission. Since that and the
covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with
the same diameter and makeup this would prove
that they also had no use for covid-19. Now
they have not use "updated" that page but with
an article that states that lockdowns, social
distancing and masks were brought to us by
Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the
original page not only "updated" but made
invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns
and social distancing, is a program that was
developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in
Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to
impress his daughter made it an element of the
NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following
the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had
almost identical infection and death rates as
those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your
social justice warrior mentality came directly
from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these
measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning
your hands has any effect is rather silly since
there is no practical way of even testing this.
What's more since it is thought that covid-19
is spread via aerosols, of what use does
washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the
Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian
salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus
Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab


Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised
that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487


"...governments will assume that such excess
capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to
see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true



Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news
report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their
germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is
experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER
federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or
toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for
the gander?


Since you obviously follow the news better than I,
how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe
I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Few if any. The point is that not only can pathogens
escape from the
labs run by those blokes with the slant eyes but
"even in America".


Not bloody likely. The Russians keep smallpox but even
they
don't use it as a weapon.
Ah, you mean that the Chinese deliberately released the
covid virus as
a weapon? For what purpose?
--
Cheers,

John B.

A lot of people believe that it's an ECONOMIC weapon
used to destroy or badly damage economies.

Cheers
It isn't logical is it? After all Chinese exports amount
to about 17%
of their entire economy in 2020 and 10 years ago was
about 1/4 of
their economy. and you believe that the Chinese released
a bio-weapon
to destroy the world's economy so that they could destroy
17% of their
own GDP?

Yup, makes perfect sense.
--
Cheers,

John B.

I did NOT say that I believed it. I said a LOT of PEOPLE
believed it.

I understand your disclaimer.

Seems that these days, "A lot of people believe..." can be
applied to more and more and more absolute nonsense.


Let's go back to 2015:

https://www.nature.com/news/engineer...search-1.18787

Purposeful of criminally negligent? You decide.


Did you actually read that article you reference? I ask as the first
few lines of the article state:

"We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for
unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was
engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; "


Correct. That's a CYA statement from the very much
politically correct editors heading a story they actually
published earlier. You'll find similar disclaimers added to
dozens of recent scientific reportage.

Yet the various scientific general publications extolled the
virtues of the French built Wuhan facility as a world class
virus research and manufacturing facility, marveled that
they could engineer bat viruses to be more contagious (COF)
in mammals (that's us).

Notice also many articles on Mr Daszak who was at the fore
of this enhanced contagiousness research, deeply involved at
Wuhan and /mirabile visu/ now on the WHO inspection team.

Nope, nothing to see here, just move along now. Yep, it's
probably the salmon, lack of lungs notwithstanding.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #28  
Old March 12th 21, 03:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,697
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 20:00:28 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/11/2021 7:18 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 13:11:33 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/11/2021 9:44 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/11/2021 1:47 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 a.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:35:01 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 8:55:36 p.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:39:24 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 7:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:03:18 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m.
UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM
UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a
large scale long term study by the CDC that
stated that masks have no effect on influenza
virus transmission. Since that and the
covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with
the same diameter and makeup this would prove
that they also had no use for covid-19. Now
they have not use "updated" that page but with
an article that states that lockdowns, social
distancing and masks were brought to us by
Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the
original page not only "updated" but made
invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns
and social distancing, is a program that was
developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in
Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to
impress his daughter made it an element of the
NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following
the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had
almost identical infection and death rates as
those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your
social justice warrior mentality came directly
from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these
measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning
your hands has any effect is rather silly since
there is no practical way of even testing this.
What's more since it is thought that covid-19
is spread via aerosols, of what use does
washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the
Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian
salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus
Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab


Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised
that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487


"...governments will assume that such excess
capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to
see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true



Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news
report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their
germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is
experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER
federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or
toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for
the gander?


Since you obviously follow the news better than I,
how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe
I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Few if any. The point is that not only can pathogens
escape from the
labs run by those blokes with the slant eyes but
"even in America".


Not bloody likely. The Russians keep smallpox but even
they
don't use it as a weapon.
Ah, you mean that the Chinese deliberately released the
covid virus as
a weapon? For what purpose?
--
Cheers,

John B.

A lot of people believe that it's an ECONOMIC weapon
used to destroy or badly damage economies.

Cheers
It isn't logical is it? After all Chinese exports amount
to about 17%
of their entire economy in 2020 and 10 years ago was
about 1/4 of
their economy. and you believe that the Chinese released
a bio-weapon
to destroy the world's economy so that they could destroy
17% of their
own GDP?

Yup, makes perfect sense.
--
Cheers,

John B.

I did NOT say that I believed it. I said a LOT of PEOPLE
believed it.

I understand your disclaimer.

Seems that these days, "A lot of people believe..." can be
applied to more and more and more absolute nonsense.


Let's go back to 2015:

https://www.nature.com/news/engineer...search-1.18787

Purposeful of criminally negligent? You decide.


Did you actually read that article you reference? I ask as the first
few lines of the article state:

"We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for
unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was
engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; "


Correct. That's a CYA statement from the very much
politically correct editors heading a story they actually
published earlier. You'll find similar disclaimers added to
dozens of recent scientific reportage.


So are you saying that the heading was incorrect and that the article
provided current and verified information? Or is it more a matter of
"they say what I want to hear and therefore it must be the truth"?




Yet the various scientific general publications extolled the
virtues of the French built Wuhan facility as a world class
virus research and manufacturing facility, marveled that
they could engineer bat viruses to be more contagious (COF)
in mammals (that's us).

Notice also many articles on Mr Daszak who was at the fore
of this enhanced contagiousness research, deeply involved at
Wuhan and /mirabile visu/ now on the WHO inspection team.

Nope, nothing to see here, just move along now. Yep, it's
probably the salmon, lack of lungs notwithstanding.

--
Cheers,

John B.

  #29  
Old March 12th 21, 03:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,196
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 10:00:09 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/11/2021 12:06 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 5:03:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m. UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a large scale long term study by the CDC that stated that masks have no effect on influenza virus transmission. Since that and the covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with the same diameter and makeup this would prove that they also had no use for covid-19. Now they have not use "updated" that page but with an article that states that lockdowns, social distancing and masks were brought to us by Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the original page not only "updated" but made invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns and social distancing, is a program that was developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to impress his daughter made it an element of the NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had almost identical infection and death rates as those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your social justice warrior mentality came directly from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these measures have any effect.. Saying that cleaning your hands has any effect is rather silly since there is no practical way of even testing this. What's more since it is thought that covid-19 is spread via aerosols, of what use does washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab

Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487

"...governments will assume that such excess capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true


Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for the gander?

Since you obviously follow the news better than I, how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Andrew, by this time you should know that you shouldn't speak of diseases that are wildly infectious and deadly but treatable. Our stupid friends do not know anything about them and hence they fade into the background hidden by as very mild disease that has killed several tens of thousands that the politicians claim has killed a half million. I have already shown the CDC statistics showing the real truth but John being as intelligent as a river rock doesn't believe the CDC but instead CNN. It is like speaking to sheep.

Oddly enough, it seems like most of the world does not believe you!

Tom, if your goal is to spread those "facts" that you alone pretend to
know, you're failing - as usual! Every time you post that stuff here,
you're skipping an opportunity to tell the rest of the world. And you're
not even convincing most of us.

Get going! Call Fox News and ask for an interview!

Start up a radio talk show!

Start tweeting and get a million followers!

Do a political song and dance on TikTok!

Or at _least_ do a far right web site!

Quit wasting your time and ours.


Frank, do you really have to work so hard at being stupid? I couldn't care LESS what the rest of the world which all have governments tending towards dictatorships believe. France does NOT have the same experience nor does the Scandinavian countries which side by side and with entirely different lockdown philosophies have shown zero difference in infection rates versus lock downs or no lock downs.

People like you really crack me up that believe that your life is in danger from a disease so deadly that you have to take a test to see if you even have it.

Go to https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c....htm#dashboard. Scroll down to the dashboard area. Mark "Weekly Number of Deaths by Cause Group" then hit "Update Dashboard". Just below is the data DIRECTLY from the death certificates. As I said before, there are a tiny number of people with a genetic error that causes their immune system to attack cells containing the virus rather than the virus itself. SO the results of that is the only 7500 people or so died directly from the covid-19 virus. And that group was entirely extinguished by the last week in April. Got that? Use the mouse pointer and POINT to the time in which the levels of respiratory diseases returned to the yearly average of pneumonia and it will show you April 25 or 30, 2020.

There is also a peak in the circulatory diseases which is caused by those on the very edge of death being hurried along perhaps by the extra load of covid or influenza or dying of completely natural causes in a peak that could be considered a normal occurrence in other times. This NUMBER is 11,500 deaths.

Where did all of these deaths come from? Here's your explanation: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nchs-data.html There you can see 1. The YEARLY rise in deaths from winter diseases which has been presented by the media as a (non-existent) "second spike" Also at the end you can see a gigantic growth of covid-19 reported deaths. This shoots entirely past the yearly levels of pneumonia. Well, if this is so explain why there is NO GROWTH in total deaths? When you pay a bounty to the tune, now, of $35 Billion for reporting a covid death that is exactly what they will do.

Where are these dead people coming from? When you take a large population that are clinically obese and scare the hell out of them and take away their means of financial support they often turn to alcoholism and drugs which cause WHAT SORT OF DEATHS? Circulatory of course. And when you kill off any section of a population that wouldn't normally die during that time period there is a rebound effect where suddenly LESS people than normal are dying and as you see, starting in December, the normal rates of death are falling and right now they are 30% below normal.

My question would be, why is everyone here deaf, dumb and willing to follow what anyone other than the actual CDC data tells them. There was only about 20,000 people killed by the pandemic, 60% of the population have a natural immunity to the disease, of the rest ONLY that tiny percentage of genetic defects I described were primary targets of the virus and the secondary targets were the same people that would have taken the entire year to die off and were merely hurried along. Almost ALL of the deaths were from lockdowns and the reported half million deaths were from the bounty on reporting covid-19 deaths.
  #30  
Old March 12th 21, 04:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,196
Default To mask or not to mask, that is the question.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:11:31 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/11/2021 9:44 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/11/2021 1:47 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 a.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:35:01 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 8:55:36 p.m. UTC-5, John
B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:39:24 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 7:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:03:18 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:49:11 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 1:07 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:09:00 p.m.
UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 10:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:41:35 AM
UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
They updated the page I sent that showed a
large scale long term study by the CDC that
stated that masks have no effect on influenza
virus transmission. Since that and the
covid-19 virus are both corona viruses with
the same diameter and makeup this would prove
that they also had no use for covid-19. Now
they have not use "updated" that page but with
an article that states that lockdowns, social
distancing and masks were brought to us by
Moses as he descended Mt. Ararat. Why was the
original page not only "updated" but made
invisible?

Now I come to find out that masks, lockdowns
and social distancing, is a program that was
developed by a 13 year old schoolgirl in
Arizona or New Mexico and her father trying to
impress his daughter made it an element of the
NIH health rules during the Bush years.

How effective was it? Those states following
the lockdowns, social distancing and masks had
almost identical infection and death rates as
those who did not.

Just thought that you'd like to know that your
social justice warrior mentality came directly
from a 13 year old.

And the CDC concludes that none of these
measures have any effect. Saying that cleaning
your hands has any effect is rather silly since
there is no practical way of even testing this.
What's more since it is thought that covid-19
is spread via aerosols, of what use does
washing your hands have?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994-t1

The Official Party Line from CCP is that the
Wuhan Killer
Virus came from imported frozen Norwegian
salmon; a species
without lungs spread a respiratory virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ak/ar-BB15uuJf


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

This is interesting.

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus
Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab


Cheers


Nature reported scary stuff in 2017. I'm surprised
that
hasn't been shoved down the memory hole:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-t...hogens-1.21487


"...governments will assume that such excess
capacity is for
the potential development of bioweapons."


It's all being properly investigated, nothing to
see here,
move along now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true



Well, not to denigrate your reference but a news
report, dated 10 Mar
2021, states that the U.S. Army has reopened their
germ warfare lab
(about 50 miles from Washington, D.C.) and is
experimenting with
tularemia (spreads more easily than anthrax) AFTER
federal inspection
found two failures in containing unnamed germs or
toxins.

What is it about sauce for the goose and sauce for
the gander?


Since you obviously follow the news better than I,
how many
people died worldwide of tularemia this year? Maybe
I missed
the US bioweapon pandemic.

Few if any. The point is that not only can pathogens
escape from the
labs run by those blokes with the slant eyes but
"even in America".


Not bloody likely. The Russians keep smallpox but even
they
don't use it as a weapon.
Ah, you mean that the Chinese deliberately released the
covid virus as
a weapon? For what purpose?
--
Cheers,

John B.

A lot of people believe that it's an ECONOMIC weapon
used to destroy or badly damage economies.

Cheers
It isn't logical is it? After all Chinese exports amount
to about 17%
of their entire economy in 2020 and 10 years ago was
about 1/4 of
their economy. and you believe that the Chinese released
a bio-weapon
to destroy the world's economy so that they could destroy
17% of their
own GDP?

Yup, makes perfect sense.
--
Cheers,

John B.

I did NOT say that I believed it. I said a LOT of PEOPLE
believed it.


I understand your disclaimer.

Seems that these days, "A lot of people believe..." can be
applied to more and more and more absolute nonsense.

Let's go back to 2015:

https://www.nature.com/news/engineer...search-1.18787

Purposeful of criminally negligent? You decide.


This would be a criminal action from any nation that is a signatory of the Geneva Convention since "Gain of Function" research is described as biological warfare research. China was NOT a signatory of that convention so Fauci knew that he could bribe them to do such research. One can excuse himself with the excuse that this was a research into what COULD happen in the future and we have to be ready for it. But this sort of development does NOT follow genetic precepts of virus growth and purposely taking a virus that required direct contact and lots of it to be infect someone and using CRISPR/Cas tools to attach components of another virus that spreads through aerosols is just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard of short of Frank telling us about what the rest of the world thinks.
 




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