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I'll probably regret starting yet another helmet thread, but here we go...
My wife's got some friends round at the moment and I've been patiently explaining why on earth anyone would want to cycle 100km without being under duress, doing it for charity, etc. (Why does anyone do anything that they enjoy?) Inevitably, one of them asked if I wear a helmet, I say yes, so she says could I help convince her husband to wear one because he refuses to. So, naturally, I explained that helmets are not really all that much cop (only designed to protect you in low-speed impacts, no good if you get run over by a cement mixer, etc). Butbutbut... she says, she knows someone who had a nasty accident and A Helmet Saved His Life. So I say, what are his grounds for saying that? She's an intelligent enough person that I won her round in the end and convinced her that she should stop nagging her husband. Did I do good? At the very least, I think her husband owes me a pint next time I see him. d. |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:37:29 +0000 (UTC), davek wrote:
I'll probably regret starting yet another helmet thread, but here we go... My wife's got some friends round at the moment and I've been patiently explaining why on earth anyone would want to cycle 100km without being under duress, doing it for charity, etc. (Why does anyone do anything that they enjoy?) Inevitably, one of them asked if I wear a helmet, I say yes, so she says could I help convince her husband to wear one because he refuses to. So, naturally, I explained that helmets are not really all that much cop (only designed to protect you in low-speed impacts, no good if you get run over by a cement mixer, etc). Butbutbut... she says, she knows someone who had a nasty accident and A Helmet Saved His Life. So I say, what are his grounds for saying that? She's an intelligent enough person that I won her round in the end and convinced her that she should stop nagging her husband. Did I do good? Of course you did. The more people who realise the limitations of helmets the better. At the very least, I think her husband owes me a pint next time I see him. Yes, harmonious marital relations are another good thing. -- Michael MacClancy Random putdown - "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." - Irvin S. Cobb www.macclancy.demon.co.uk www.macclancy.co.uk |
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Did I do good?
her husband owes me a pint next time I see him. Nice one - I think you already know the answer. Tho are you sure you used a logical argument to stop a woman nagging? |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:37:29 +0000 (UTC), davek wrote
in message : Did I do good? Of course. "We are not anti helmet, we are anti bull****" - the new rallying cry of the Cyclists' Liberation Front. At the very least, I think her husband owes me a pint next time I see him. I'll pay if he won't ;-) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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davek wrote in message ...
I'll probably regret starting yet another helmet thread, but here we go... My wife's got some friends round at the moment and I've been patiently explaining why on earth anyone would want to cycle 100km without being under duress, doing it for charity, etc. (Why does anyone do anything that they enjoy?) Inevitably, one of them asked if I wear a helmet, I say yes, so she says could I help convince her husband to wear one because he refuses to. So, naturally, I explained that helmets are not really all that much cop (only designed to protect you in low-speed impacts, no good if you get run over by a cement mixer, etc). Butbutbut... she says, she knows someone who had a nasty accident and A Helmet Saved His Life. So I say, what are his grounds for saying that? She's an intelligent enough person that I won her round in the end and convinced her that she should stop nagging her husband. Did I do good? At the very least, I think her husband owes me a pint next time I see him. d. To support your arguments you could point her to sites sceptical of "helmet-saved-my-life" claims like: http://www.cyclehelmets.org/ and http://www.magma.ca/~ocbc The latter has a helmet FAQ. |
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davek wrote: I'll probably regret starting yet another helmet thread, but here we go... My wife's got some friends round at the moment and I've been patiently explaining why on earth anyone would want to cycle 100km without being under duress, doing it for charity, etc. (Why does anyone do anything that they enjoy?) Inevitably, one of them asked if I wear a helmet, I say yes, so she says could I help convince her husband to wear one because he refuses to. So, naturally, I explained that helmets are not really all that much cop (only designed to protect you in low-speed impacts, no good if you get run over by a cement mixer, etc). Butbutbut... she says, she knows someone who had a nasty accident and A Helmet Saved His Life. So I say, what are his grounds for saying that? She's an intelligent enough person that I won her round in the end and convinced her that she should stop nagging her husband. Did I do good? At the very least, I think her husband owes me a pint next time I see him. d. Can I give you my wife's phone number? -- Martin Bulmer |
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I love to cycle without the lid, but it did save my head on one occasion....
I was cycling through Hyde Park on my road bike. The front wheel quick release came undone (my fault of course). As I hopped over a speed bump, the front wheel came out. Nasty. My downtube landed on the wheel, buckling it, and I went right over the handle bars - landing on my head. The helmet was trashed. Fortunately I'd just been to one of those IT training courses where they give you 500 pages of useless guff so that saved my back. I'm sat there on the road seeing stars, suddenly elated that I hit the deck without injury. I couldn't stop laughing. The damage: trashed helmet; trashed front wheel; slight concussion; 'told you so' from the girlfriend (and she was right). Many of the crashes, bumps and falls ARE at low speed. Many people never cycle very fast. Many of the slow riders have bikes which aren't in good enough condition to brake effectively. I say that you should encourage him to wear a helmet. "davek" wrote in message ... I'll probably regret starting yet another helmet thread, but here we go... My wife's got some friends round at the moment and I've been patiently explaining why on earth anyone would want to cycle 100km without being under duress, doing it for charity, etc. (Why does anyone do anything that they enjoy?) Inevitably, one of them asked if I wear a helmet, I say yes, so she says could I help convince her husband to wear one because he refuses to. So, naturally, I explained that helmets are not really all that much cop (only designed to protect you in low-speed impacts, no good if you get run over by a cement mixer, etc). Butbutbut... she says, she knows someone who had a nasty accident and A Helmet Saved His Life. So I say, what are his grounds for saying that? She's an intelligent enough person that I won her round in the end and convinced her that she should stop nagging her husband. Did I do good? At the very least, I think her husband owes me a pint next time I see him. d. |
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I love to cycle without the lid, but it did save my head on one
occasion.... slight concussion Out of genuine interest, what do you think your injuries would have been without the helmet? Mark. |
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I landed squarely on top of my head at about 15-20kmph. I went over the
handlebars of a full sized road bike (therefore a fall of about 150cm). I weigh about 70kg, add at least four kilos for the training materials. For that force, I would expect severe concussion; possibly coma and a cracked skull. If all of those did happen, then there would be further complications or hemorrhaging etc. All of this is conjecture, so I did a search. This article was interesting: http://www.waltersforensic.com/artic...n/vol5-no3.htm The helmet wouldn't have protected my neck. Fortunately, my neck wasn't hurt. "Mark Thompson" wrote in message 93.157... I love to cycle without the lid, but it did save my head on one occasion.... slight concussion Out of genuine interest, what do you think your injuries would have been without the helmet? Mark. |
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Will H wrote:
I landed squarely on top of my head at about 15-20kmph. I went over the handlebars of a full sized road bike (therefore a fall of about 150cm). I weigh about 70kg, add at least four kilos for the training materials. For that force, I would expect severe concussion; possibly coma and a cracked skull. If all of those did happen, then there would be further complications or hemorrhaging etc. All of this is conjecture, so I did a search. This article was interesting: http://www.waltersforensic.com/artic...n/vol5-no3.htm Increased helmet wearing has not made any difference to the rate of deaths and serious injuries where they've been made compulsory, thus forcing a rise in wearing rates. Do you think that a fractured skull is a serious injury? I do... In the meantime, did your search include http://www.cyclehelmets.org/mf.html#1081 ? Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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