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Earth Day Bike Action -and- Critical Mass
"Jym Dyer" wrote in message
... We can all be proud because biking is up 20% in NYC and will continue, in large part because of you and your participation in Critical Mass Absolutely untrue. a. |
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In article .net,
"andrew smith" writes: "Jym Dyer" wrote in message ... We can all be proud because biking is up 20% in NYC and will continue, in large part because of you and your participation in Critical Mass Absolutely untrue. I wouldn't be surprised if CM was a tourism draw. And if tourists find they can cycle around a city and get acquainted with it, they might be inclined to return and do it again. Maybe even move there. Maybe car use historically proliferated because they had their own "Critical Mass". History can repeat itself w/ other transportation modes. - Tom -- -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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| We can all be proud because biking is up 20% in NYC and will
| continue, in large part because of you and your participation | in Critical Mass. (I should mention that that's boilerplate text from TIME'S UP!) Absolutely untrue. =v= New York does indeed seem to be following a pattern I've seen in other cities: a Critical Mass reaches critical mass, then within 3 years you get an energized bike activist community and a bunch more people on bikes. An alternative argument has been made that the greenways are putting more people on bikes, but for me that leads back to the energized bike activists. =v= So, no, not absolutely untrue. _Jym_ |
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"Tom Keats" wrote in message
... In article .net, "andrew smith" writes: "Jym Dyer" wrote in message ... We can all be proud because biking is up 20% in NYC and will continue, in large part because of you and your participation in Critical Mass Absolutely untrue. I wouldn't be surprised if CM was a tourism draw. And if tourists find they can cycle around a city and get acquainted with it, they might be inclined to return and do it again. Maybe even move there. I see it now...someone sitting at home thinking, "I sure would like to go to Manhattan. I wonder if Critical Mass has proven that you can ride a bicycle in Manhattan? Well, they probably haven't, so I won't go there." Maybe car use historically proliferated because they had their own "Critical Mass". History can repeat itself w/ other transportation modes. What has that to do with a bunch of folks making enemies by intentionally snarling traffic? a. |
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"Jym Dyer" wrote in message
... | We can all be proud because biking is up 20% in NYC and will | continue, in large part because of you and your participation | in Critical Mass. (I should mention that that's boilerplate text from TIME'S UP!) Absolutely untrue. =v= New York does indeed seem to be following a pattern I've seen in other cities: a Critical Mass reaches critical mass, then within 3 years you get an energized bike activist community and a bunch more people on bikes. An alternative argument has been made that the greenways are putting more people on bikes, but for me that leads back to the energized bike activists. =v= So, no, not absolutely untrue. The area I live in has a good number of bikers, is adding bike routes, and lanes, and a bunch more people on bikes. What is doesn't have is a bunch of jerks intentionall clogging traffic. So, yes, absolutely untrue. a. |
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From somewhere in cyberspace, "andrew smith" said:
What has that to do with a bunch of folks making enemies by intentionally snarling traffic? The traffic snarl is unintentional. The real purpose behind the Mass is to get on your bike and have fun. Which you should probably go out and do, given the grumpy tone of your post above. Besides, I can report to you that traffic in Manhattan that Saturday was mostly unaffected by the Critical Mass. The front of the Mass poked its nose through several nasty traffic snarls on the way to Central Park - they were provoked by other things, like the construction on 3rd Ave that we squeezed past. It seems to me that Manhattan traffic is capable of snarling itself up without assistance from an occasional roving crowd of bicyclists. -- eravin@ | Grief can take care of itself; but to get the full panix.com | value of a joy you must have somebody to divide it with. | -- Mark Twain |
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Alex Rodriguez wrote:
In article , says... I wouldn't be surprised if CM was a tourism draw. And if tourists find they can cycle around a city and get acquainted with it, they might be inclined to return and do it again. Maybe even move there. Anyone who needs CM to ride the streets of NYC, shouldn't! If you know the rules of the road and how to behave in traffic you don't need a bunch of other cyclists to do it with you. OTOH, it can be a liberating experience. My first experience cycling in the city was a Times Up! Moonlight ride in Central Park (not CM, but not too different). The ride itself was off-road, but getting to the ride made me realize that I could ride my bike in NYC. Up until then I just assumed that it wasn't possible. (But that's just what THEY wanted me to think.) -- Steven O'Neill you know who THEY are, don't you? |
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Anyone who needs CM to ride the streets of NYC, shouldn't!
=v= Faulty premise. Nobody said anyone *needs* CM to ride in NYC streets. It just makes it more fun by attracting more bicycling and more bicycling community. =v= That said, rides in safer contexts are an ideal set of "training wheels" to get people ready for the streets. _Jym_ P.S.: The streets of NYC aren't actually so bad to ride on. Unlike other U.S. cities, the surface is ruled by pedestrians, not cars. |
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