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"Fred Hall" wrote:
I've put a thousand miles on my bike this season Fredo es muy macho! |
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Badger_South wrote in message . ..
On 17 Oct 2004 06:05:36 -0700, (R.White) wrote: Did they endanger you in your 2 ton metal cage? Poor thing. Urge to beep isn't related to anything about reputation or justification; it's just anger that something small and vulnerable asserted momentary dominance. Maybe it's that attitude that caused those truckers to harass you. Keep asserting your dominance and you'll wind up dead. Yeah but you'll still be an asshole. I'd rather been thought of as an asshole in a newsgroup than be a real life moron who insists they must "assert dominance" no matter what situation they are in. That attitude alone makes YOU the asshole and gives other cyclists a bad name. It's too bad someone else in the area you ride may fall victim to some idiot driver that you ****ed off earlier when you showed them who was in charge of the road. Please re-plonk me. |
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"VBadJuJu" none@ wrote in message
... "Fred Hall" wrote: I've put a thousand miles on my bike this season Fredo es muy macho! But unfortunately I'll always be a Fred on a bike :-) |
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Crying in his Cheerios,Zoot Katz wrote in message ...
17 Oct 2004 16:16:28 -0700, , (R.White) repeated: and gives other cyclists a bad name. It's too bad someone else in the area you ride may fall victim to some idiot driver that you ****ed off earlier when you showed them who was in charge of the road. Do you idiots make up these kinds of stories just to scare yourselves or because you're unable to take responsibility for your own actions? Shouldn't you be out riding at some Critical Mass ride, spreading goodwill among the motoring public? How about because of your deplorable habits every White in the phone book should start getting crank calls and letter bombs? Be my guest, I'm unlisted. Maybe it's because you're ready to excuse murderous drivers assaulting cyclists. "The way they were dressed they were just askin' for it"! I'm not ready to excuse any deliberate, bad behaviour whether it be from an automobile driver or a cyclist. It works both ways. Substantiate your silly boogie man myth with documented cases or STFU. That would also apply to all those "murderous drivers." |
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"Badger_South" wrote
Zoot Katz wrote: (R.White) repeated: and gives other cyclists a bad name. It's too bad someone else in the area you ride may fall victim to some idiot driver that you ****ed off earlier when you showed them who was in charge of the road. Do you idiots make up these kinds of stories just to scare yourselves or because you're unable to take responsibility for your own actions? How about because of your deplorable habits every White in the phone book should start getting crank calls and letter bombs? Maybe it's because you're ready to excuse murderous drivers assaulting cyclists. "The way they were dressed they were just askin' for it"! Substantiate your silly boogie man myth with documented cases or STFU. I vote with STFU, and him changing his handle to car-lover which suits his trolling ass better. Idiot drivers don't need any 'reason' to act ****ed off at bikers, and we've seen how they act with their own kids in the car, not paying attention, yakking on the cell, caring less if they run up a telephone pole or into a semi. Nice dose of venom here, boys (especially considering that most of us ride bikes AND drive cars....) I disagree with this position. Just look at your last post, Badger, and perhaps you'll see that you've made my case for me. Didn't you just malign several groups of people (parents with kids in car, cell-phone users) with a broad brush based on your experience with only a small group of each??? In other words, it would *really* be jim dandy if people /didn't/ see a single @sshole cyclist doing something inanely stupid and associate future cyclists, even innocent ones, with that action to some degree. Unfortunately, I haven't seen it work that way. We like labels and nice, neat buckets. People make associations like this alllll the time, Zoot. How many of you, when somebody finds out you're a cyclist, have been asked something like, "Why is it all you guys seem to run red lights?" or "Why is it that when a bunch of you cyclists go for a ride together, you take up the whole road even when there's a perfectly good designated bike path?" I've heard these comments puh-lenty, thankyouverymuch. I can say this much with relative certainty: discourteous behavior on the road--regardless of how many wheels you're piloting--rarely has a positive effect. Courtesy is very much a two-way street. (choosing not to 'STFU' in this case) |
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:33:07 GMT, "neil0502" wrote:
I can say this much with relative certainty: discourteous behavior on the road--regardless of how many wheels you're piloting--rarely has a positive effect. Courtesy is very much a two-way street. (choosing not to 'STFU' in this case) No need, I find your comments fair. Generally, I'm -extremely- courteous on the road when biking, and always wave to motorists that give me a few seconds to make make a turn, or avoid right or left hooking me. It's only when I'm at home ranting and raving g on the computer that I express disdain for bad driving habits. On the road I'm much too focussed on the ride, staying alive and enjoying myself. However, I admit to being partial to bikers and allow them lots of leeway to run stop signs, and take up the road, mostly b/c there are so few of them, and they're probably not doing such things to annoy drivers - they doing them to 'get by'. If I run a stop sign, it's b/c there are no cars in sight, and it's at the beginning of a long steep section. There's a strong urge not to unclip, so even stoplights or signs that would be simple to stop at, I'll usually just slow to a momentary trackstand and then procede as safely as possible. However let me ask you this. Just how much discourteous behavior is possible on a bike, fercrissakes? Not much. Maybe taking the road for a few seconds too long, and running some stop signs, not just to get somewhere sooner, but to keep from unclipping and to allow taking the next steep; perhaps turning or weaving unpredictably. But the big thing is it's not done in anger. But imagine how much discourteous behavior is possible, and in fact frequently seen in a car? Speeding, honking, buzzing, cell phoning, playing with the radio, general inattention, eating, drinking, rapid lane changing, tail-gating, running riders off the road, throwing things at ppl, running stop signs, redlights. I could go on and on. The big thing here is that most of it -is- done in anger, and b/c of immaturity. So we all know who has to take the brunt of the suggestion to be courteous, now, don't we? ;-) For some drivers, just being on the road on a bike is considered discourteous, after all bikers don't pay taxes, right? ;-D -B |
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