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"Paul R" wrote 7) Licensing for cyclists - they must prove they know how to ride safely in traffic Great points Paul. I think #7 is best in theory but how can it be put into practice? Like car exams? I guess. When I was about 11 years old, my school had a bike safety course for an hour a week for six weeks, after school hours. My mother signed me up coz I was spending a lot of time on streets riding my BMX ( the 1st time it was around - circa 1982). I was downright embarrassed in front of my friends just for being one of the 'geeks' that was taking part, ye know what kids are like. Anyway, my point is that more than 20 years later I still remember little things from that course ( safe turns/signals/observation etc) and I still signal automatically, the exact way that we were thought. Maybe it could be introduced at a young age? |
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....outlaw taxis
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"Hugh Jass" writes: "Paul R" wrote 7) Licensing for cyclists - they must prove they know how to ride safely in traffic Great points Paul. I think #7 is best in theory NNNNnnnooooooo!!!! There has never been a need for formal testing & licensing of bicyclists -- no more than for pedestrians. To inflict such formality on just plain gettin' around is just too majestically overblown. cheers, Tom -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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"Tom Keats" wrote "Hugh Jass" writes: Great points Paul. I think #7 is best in theory OK. I meant training as opposed to licensing. NNNNnnnooooooo!!!! There has never been a need for formal testing & licensing of bicyclists -- no more than for pedestrians. To inflict such formality on just plain gettin' around is just too majestically overblown. I disagree. I'm on the road most of the day and see so many people that cannot ride a bike properly. While educating drivers is paramount, it would be nice as a cyclist if he/she had an instinct to control a dodgy situation. |
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Oh...I have to chime in here! I was traveling down a mtn road on my road bike when a butt-head turned in front of me then backed out in front of me! I have 30' of skidmarks and I probably slammed into the jeep liberty at about 35+ mph! The helmet saved my bee hind! I did suffer a concussion (I do not to this day remember my crash!) I did break 3 ribs..punctured a lung and had severe nerve damage to my left arm! wanna see pixs? Check my website! http://faculty.plattsburgh.edu/robert.light Helmets work! Wear one! I am lucky as hell! Pedal On, Bob Light Helmets should be something like 30th on the list, btw, they can certainly work, but preventing falling down is the priority right? :P In car/bike interactions, if you get whacked hard, wearing a helmet won't help a great deal when your chest gets crushed. It'll certainly be of use if you take a little spill sliding out in a corner or something like that of course... -- LightCycles |
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Hugh Jass wrote:
When I was about 11 years old, my school had a bike safety course for an hour a week for six weeks, after school hours. My mother signed me up coz I was spending a lot of time on streets riding my BMX ( the 1st time it was around - circa 1982). I was downright embarrassed in front of my friends just for being one of the 'geeks' that was taking part, ye know what kids are like. They did this when I was a kid too. But we all did it, and no one thought it was geeky. *Most* kids rode bikes to school. Sadly, in the same neighborhood, almost no kids ride bikes anymore. And nothing has changed to explain this, except the culture. Anyway, my point is that more than 20 years later I still remember little things from that course ( safe turns/signals/observation etc) and I still signal automatically, the exact way that we were thought. Maybe it could be introduced at a young age? I think this kind of training early on makes kids better drivers later in life. Matt O. |
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"Matt O'Toole" wrote: Anyway, my point is that more than 20 years later I still remember little things from that course ( safe turns/signals/observation etc) and I still signal automatically, the exact way that we were thought. Maybe it could be introduced at a young age? I think this kind of training early on makes kids better drivers later in life. Yep, in 2nd year high school driver training, at fifteen and a half years old, it was like, 'What are you going through all this stuff for? We learned this on our bikes in third through sixth grade.' A motorcycle safety course taught me more about driving and riding a bicycle. -- zk |
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:42:03 -0500, "Hugh Jass"
wrote: "Tom Keats" wrote "Hugh Jass" writes: Great points Paul. I think #7 is best in theory OK. I meant training as opposed to licensing. NNNNnnnooooooo!!!! There has never been a need for formal testing & licensing of bicyclists -- no more than for pedestrians. To inflict such formality on just plain gettin' around is just too majestically overblown. I disagree. I'm on the road most of the day and see so many people that cannot ride a bike properly. While educating drivers is paramount, it would be nice as a cyclist if he/she had an instinct to control a dodgy situation. Oh yeah, licensing will solve that problem. Just as licensing makes drivers obey the laws and the roads safer. Michael J. Klein Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings --------------------------------------------- |
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"Paul R" wrote in message
... What do you think is the best way to improve safety for cyclists in a city? Why? 1) Mandatory helmet laws for all cyclists with strict enforcement. 2) Enforce existing laws against drivers. 3) Education for drivers on handling cyclists safely 4) Better traffic planning. Extensive changes to existing infrastructure. Widen streets or remove extra lane. 5) Extensive system of bike paths 6) Provide significant tax breaks for cyclists 7) Licensing for cyclists - 2, 3, and 4. 6 would be nice. |
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:42:03 -0500, "Hugh Jass"
wrote: I'm on the road most of the day and see so many people that cannot ride a bike properly. One large study in Oxford showed that about one in four cyclists are responsible for crashes in which they are injured, but over half of pedestrians. Pedestrian license anyone? Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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