Haymarket crash: Several injured as double-decker bus smashes intocars in busy West End street

On 21/12/2017 16:42, Bod wrote:
On 21/12/2017 16:37, Bod wrote:
On 21/12/2017 16:27, JNugent wrote:
On 21/12/2017 15:17, Bod wrote:
On 21/12/2017 14:55, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 03:42:58 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 20/12/2017 23:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 10:56:35 PM UTC, James
Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 22:18:26 -0000, Simon Jester
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:55:14 PM UTC, James
Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 21:12:29 -0000, soup
wrote:

On 20/12/2017 20:04, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:04:10 -0000, Simon Jester

wrote:

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 5:44:30 PM UTC, Bod wrote:
Several people were injured as a double-decker bus crashed
into several
cars on a busy street in the West End.

Paramedics were scrambled to Haymarket near Piccadilly
Circus station
shortly after midday on Wednesday.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3724376.html


*Why do these type of crashes never show the cyclists that
caused the
carnage.*
I think it's a cover up.

I would like to know who arrived at the scene first.
The Ambulance, the car or the Cycle Responder?

I have never seen a cyclist capable of taking an injured
person to
hospital.

I have never seen a motorbike that was capable of taking an
injured
person to hospital but there are still motorbike paramedics.
https://arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-exp...3HZFQ4QC62GWTI


Better to bring a vehicle capable of actually taking the
injured person away.* That's why every ambulance I've ever
seen has four wheels.* Trying to save money or something?


Better to stabilize the casualty at the scene then determine
the best way to move to hospital.
That is why we have paramedics rather than scoop and run
ambulances.

Hint: the ambulances have paramedics in them.


As do the Cycle Responders.
The difference is the Cycle Responders get there faster.
Thank you for proving my point.
Apology accepted in advance.

imagines Peter Hucker lying in the road and slowly bleeding to
death,
then telling the cycle responder "GO AWAY YOU GAY CYCLIST!!* I'm
gonna
wait till the ambulance gets here..... and put my leg back where you
found it under that car !"

Why would a cyclist get there faster than an ambulance with blue
lights and a siren?

Cycle responders in London take an average of 6 mins. Ambulances
obviously take a lot longer in heavy traffic.
Those extra ambulance minutes could mean the difference between a
patient dying or living.

What is a "cycle responder"?

Please provide a link to some evidence of this six-minute response
time and of the proportion of cases to which it applies.
*
*
I already posted a link earlier in this thread.

Here it is again:

Cycle responder
Cycle respondersCycle responders are fully trained to work on their own
and operate in busy areas which are difficult to travel through in a car
or ambulance. Staff on bikes can get through narrow streets, pedestrian
areas and shopping centres very easily.

They are able to reach patients quickly and start to give life-saving
treatment while an ambulance is on the way.

Facts about the cycle response unit:
Cycle responders attend approximately 16,000 calls a year.
They resolve around 50 per cent of all incidents at the scene.
Their average response time to calls is six minutes.

http://www.londonambulance.nhs.uk/ca...responder.aspx

"...are able to..."

Not quite the same meaning as "...have a record of...", is it?

QUOTE:
They respond to emergency calls in particularly congested areas of the
capital such as the West End, Heathrow Airport, Kingston town centre,
the City of London and St Pancras.
ENDQUOTE

So it's hard luck if you are injured or taken ill at Archway, Tooting,
Biggin Hill, Ilford, Brentford, Southgate, Tulse Hill, Wimbledon,
Chingford or Pinner, eh?

In fact, the whole thing has a whiff of the rigged "Commuter Challenge"
about it. You know, the ones where it is assumed that a worker lives at
Trafalgar Square and travels to work at the Bank of England and the
"challenge" measures the speed of various modes between those points as
though it were in any way representative of reality. That sort of
"realistic" thing.

Bod wrote:
2 Jun 2016 - The situation is set to get worse, with traffic on
our roads expected to grow by up to 55% by 2040, and morning and
evening 'rush hour' periods already lengthening as traffic
volumes reach saturation point in cities like London, Manchester
and Bristol. The bus sector has been hit the hardest, with
journey ...

There's always room for an emergency vehicle. Mount the pavement,
squash up to the sides etc. A path can easily be made in the
centre. Ambulances need to get bull bars if it's a problem, any
loonie not getting out of the way is pushed out of the way.

Jeez!!!

Isn't it an offence not to get out of the way of an ambulance?

I've got the patience of a saint, but mine has run out with you.
Just **** off.

Bravo! :-)

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 14:54:47 -0000, Butthead said to Beavis again:


I have never seen a cyclist capable of taking an injured person to
hospital.

Who said they did?

No point in sending half an ambulance.

Well, TELL them, Birdbrain! Maybe you can become a well-paid advisor for
city council problems!

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 14:55:21 -0000, Butthead said to Beavis again:

Strange, I've seen exactly 4 lycra wearing cyclists around here in 14
years. Is there a plague of gay lycra wearing cyclists where you live then?

Apart from the odd chav cycling to a shop to get a loaf of bread, the
rest are dressed up like the Tour de France.

That's because of the drugs you are using, you mentally deficient drug
addict!

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 14:56:47 -0000, Butthead said to Beavis again:


So you prefer dry ones?

If you really really had to, would you take the cyclist with the brown
stain, the sweat marks, or dry?

LOL!!! Really hard to tell which of the two of you is the bigger idiot!

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 14:56:07 -0000, Butthead said to Beavis again:

Nothing is faster than a vehicle with blue lights.

Are blue lighted vehicles quicker than the go faster striped vehicles?

Yes.

Beavis & Butthead, as if they had just jumped right out of the cartoon! LOL

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 14:55:48 -0000, Butthead said to Beavis again:

imagines Peter Hucker lying in the road and slowly bleeding to death,
then telling the cycle responder "GO AWAY YOU GAY CYCLIST!! I'm gonna
wait till the ambulance gets here..... and put my leg back where you
found it under that car !"

Why would a cyclist get there faster than an ambulance with blue lights and a siren?

Take a guess, oh birdbrained one! tsk

--
Unemployable, workshy "permanently ill" Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James
Wilkinson" LOL) description of his "disease":
"It's called an illness. I cannot get out of bed before about 10am."
MID:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:26:15 -0000, Butthead said to Beavis again:


Cycle responders in London take an average of 6 mins. Ambulances
obviously take a lot longer in heavy traffic.
Those extra ambulance minutes could mean the difference between a
patient dying or living.

An ambulance can't take longer, people get out of the way of an ambulance.

Birdbrain doesn't get it, AGAIN! tsk

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 14:57:55 -0000, Butthead said to Beavis again:

Facts about the cycle response unit:

Cycle responders attend approximately 16,000 calls a year.
They resolve around 50 per cent of all incidents at the scene.
Their average response time to calls is six minutes.

http://www.londonambulance.nhs.uk/ca...responder.aspx

Are London drivers so rude they don't get out of the way of an ambulance
then? An ambulance can go a lot faster than a bicycle, and has room for
a bed in the back and several people.

Gee... you've just debunked the entire article with your incredible
stupidity, Birdbrain! VBG

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"Around here they like to run in front of cars for a laugh. For some reason
they're surprised when I accelerate."
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:19:48 +0000, Beavis said to Butthead again:

Are London drivers so rude they don't get out of the way of an ambulance
then?* An ambulance can go a lot faster than a bicycle, and has room for
a bed in the back and several people.

Have it your way. Argue with yourself.

No Beavis, he will argue with YOU ...and ONLY you! You are Beavis after all!
LOL