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On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 12:49:48 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 8:32:11 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:54:16 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: YOU GOT A CARBON FIBER BIKE? Yes, I crossed over to the Dark Side again. But the thing is that although there is only some 6 lbs total weight difference from my heaviest steel bike to the CLX, the ride quality of the CLX is easily the best of the lot.. It doesn't bounce on those low spots when you're descending at 40 mph and while hitting bumps gives you a jarring just as any other frame material it doesn't continue reverberating from it after the initial strike. As soon as I recover from the expense of building it I will switch to tubeless which will reduce the weight by some 2 lbs. because of the flat kit.. Well, unless you're a real optimist, you'll want to bring at least one spare and some CO2 or a pump -- and your usual tools, all of which you can get well under 2 lbs, unless you're Joerg, and then you try to get it under 20 lbs. And CF? I thought you and CF were like gasoline and matches. -- Jay Beattie. Jay, I have four road bikes. One of then us tubeless. Presently I'm carrying some CO2 cartridges because I'm still not comfortable with tubeless. But the others all have packs. They all weigh about 2 lbs. I also have one of the superlight pumps with a pressure gauge on it. The pump, filler hose and plastic mount weigh about the same as two CO2 cartridges and a filler. Why is this foreign to people who claim to ride a great deal? Yesterday on the ride, a man with a brand new Specialized CF with a TRIPLE (???) got the chain jammed between the middle and small ring. He had no tools and no way of repairing it. Luckily I was there and partially disassembled the triple without destroying his 11 speed chain. So you cannot get rid of carrying a good multitool. I have Triple A if I don't want to carry tools. |
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On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 12:53:03 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-24 12:37, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 10:09:27 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-24 08:32, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:54:16 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: YOU GOT A CARBON FIBER BIKE? Yes, I crossed over to the Dark Side again. But the thing is that although there is only some 6 lbs total weight difference from my heaviest steel bike to the CLX, the ride quality of the CLX is easily the best of the lot. It doesn't bounce on those low spots when you're descending at 40 mph and while hitting bumps gives you a jarring just as any other frame material it doesn't continue reverberating from it after the initial strike. As soon as I recover from the expense of building it I will switch to tubeless which will reduce the weight by some 2 lbs. because of the flat kit. Maybe you guys don't have goat's head thorns. With tubeless the only defense is the running surface and sometimes the even thinner side wall. Not much for a 1/3" long thorn. Or a dozen of them hitting almost simultaneouly. I can only imagine that resulting in an immediate flat and the size of the hole would cause any slime to just ooze all over the place like it happened to me. Only thick tubes and a tire liner did the trick, no more flats since then. So the flat kits I bought from you are pretty much exclusively for use on other cyclists' bikes. For ordinary road riders (not you, of course), tubeless would be perfect for areas infested with goatheads. You get flat resistance without a half-pound of energy-sucking tubes and tire liners. TK is on a race bike and not a cargo bike with panniers, heart-lung machine, flares and rope. Where should such flat resistance come from if 1/10" penetration suffices to cause phsssss and green stuff gurgling out? Even more, why did the couple on the El Dorado Trail get flats on both tubeless MTB while I, riding the very same route, never get any there? Because they didn't carry a growler? They kept pumping up, hoping the slime would finally heal things. It didn't and after 5mi or so I had to leave them behind because a tubeless leak can't be fixed unless you have ... a tube. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Orange sealant works perfectly. It is possible to get a hole large enough to not seal but it would be enough damage that you could NOT repair a normal clincher either. |
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On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:49:13 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 12:49:48 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 8:32:11 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:54:16 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: YOU GOT A CARBON FIBER BIKE? Yes, I crossed over to the Dark Side again. But the thing is that although there is only some 6 lbs total weight difference from my heaviest steel bike to the CLX, the ride quality of the CLX is easily the best of the lot. It doesn't bounce on those low spots when you're descending at 40 mph and while hitting bumps gives you a jarring just as any other frame material it doesn't continue reverberating from it after the initial strike. As soon as I recover from the expense of building it I will switch to tubeless which will reduce the weight by some 2 lbs. because of the flat kit. Well, unless you're a real optimist, you'll want to bring at least one spare and some CO2 or a pump -- and your usual tools, all of which you can get well under 2 lbs, unless you're Joerg, and then you try to get it under 20 lbs. And CF? I thought you and CF were like gasoline and matches. -- Jay Beattie. Jay, I have four road bikes. One of then us tubeless. Presently I'm carrying some CO2 cartridges because I'm still not comfortable with tubeless. But the others all have packs. They all weigh about 2 lbs. I also have one of the superlight pumps with a pressure gauge on it. The pump, filler hose and plastic mount weigh about the same as two CO2 cartridges and a filler. Why is this foreign to people who claim to ride a great deal? I have two road bikes, a CX bike (commuter) and a gravel bike -- all ridden on the road with seat packs. All of my seat packs are under 2 lbs. Two tubes (180g-ish), a couple C02 cartridges, inflator (all maybe 200g), a multi-tool, tire lever and bag weight (100g maybe). I'd guess 550 grams tops. 2 lbs is about 900 grams. I carry things in my jersey -- a cell phone, wallet, and sometimes a spare tube, food, etc., that I do not count as part of seat bag weight. Yesterday on the ride, a man with a brand new Specialized CF with a TRIPLE (???) got the chain jammed between the middle and small ring. He had no tools and no way of repairing it. Luckily I was there and partially disassembled the triple without destroying his 11 speed chain. So you cannot get rid of carrying a good multitool. I have Triple A if I don't want to carry tools. I got massive chain suck on my Norco Search gravel bike and paid Ruckus a pretty penny to do the carbon repair, but the repair and paint were immaculate. Those Marxist Bohemians do a great job. You cannot tell the chain stay, downtube and BB were all munged up. The OE installed chain-checker is useless except to trap the chain if it drops off the inner ring. The tool I really needed to extract the chain was the preload cap/fixing bolt extractor for the Shimano crank so I could remove the crank. I tried to remove the cap with a screw driver, but that just munged it up. I ended up yanking the chain out and riding home -- actually my son rode home. He was riding the bike at the time, but we were together. I should have made him pay for the repair, but I'm taking it out of him in pro-deals. After stripping and rebuilding the bike, I did something that should have been done at the factory -- put foam padding around the disc hose and rear shift cable housing that runs internally. That really quieted the bike and now the biggest rattle (and it is big) is from a little Pro mini-pump. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 5:34:41 PM UTC+2, wrote:
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 9:11:03 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 9/24/2018 11:32 AM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:54:16 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: YOU GOT A CARBON FIBER BIKE? Yes, I crossed over to the Dark Side again. But the thing is that although there is only some 6 lbs total weight difference from my heaviest steel bike to the CLX, the ride quality of the CLX is easily the best of the lot. It doesn't bounce on those low spots when you're descending at 40 mph and while hitting bumps gives you a jarring just as any other frame material it doesn't continue reverberating from it after the initial strike. As soon as I recover from the expense of building it I will switch to tubeless which will reduce the weight by some 2 lbs. because of the flat kit. You have a 2 pound flat repair kit? You don't? One bag, a couple of innertubes, a couple of CO2 cartridges and a filler or a pump and a multitool? I have a scale and I have weighed many of these things and they all were close to two lbs for a road bike and not some heavy POS touring bike wi8th 32 mm heavy wall innertubes like you ride. The question is - why have you never weighed any of this? Or do you simply contradict for the reasons unknown to thinking humans? OK I took the challenge: https://photos.app.goo.gl/irRTKG4ap8frQUTq6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/6NF4zogscNbrKwra6 In combination with a well maintained bike and the fact that we don't have 'middle of nowhere' in Western Europe I never needed more. Lou |
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On 26/09/2018 2:08 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 5:34:41 PM UTC+2, wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 9:11:03 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 9/24/2018 11:32 AM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:54:16 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: YOU GOT A CARBON FIBER BIKE? Yes, I crossed over to the Dark Side again. But the thing is that although there is only some 6 lbs total weight difference from my heaviest steel bike to the CLX, the ride quality of the CLX is easily the best of the lot. It doesn't bounce on those low spots when you're descending at 40 mph and while hitting bumps gives you a jarring just as any other frame material it doesn't continue reverberating from it after the initial strike. As soon as I recover from the expense of building it I will switch to tubeless which will reduce the weight by some 2 lbs. because of the flat kit. You have a 2 pound flat repair kit? You don't? One bag, a couple of innertubes, a couple of CO2 cartridges and a filler or a pump and a multitool? I have a scale and I have weighed many of these things and they all were close to two lbs for a road bike and not some heavy POS touring bike wi8th 32 mm heavy wall innertubes like you ride. The question is - why have you never weighed any of this? Or do you simply contradict for the reasons unknown to thinking humans? OK I took the challenge: https://photos.app.goo.gl/irRTKG4ap8frQUTq6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/6NF4zogscNbrKwra6 In combination with a well maintained bike and the fact that we don't have 'middle of nowhere' in Western Europe I never needed more. Lou I carry about the same except for the jar thing. Also, small frame pump. I haven't weighed it but I doubt if it's more than a pound including the seat bag. |
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On 2018-09-26 08:51, wrote:
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 12:53:03 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-24 12:37, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 10:09:27 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-24 08:32, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:54:16 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: YOU GOT A CARBON FIBER BIKE? Yes, I crossed over to the Dark Side again. But the thing is that although there is only some 6 lbs total weight difference from my heaviest steel bike to the CLX, the ride quality of the CLX is easily the best of the lot. It doesn't bounce on those low spots when you're descending at 40 mph and while hitting bumps gives you a jarring just as any other frame material it doesn't continue reverberating from it after the initial strike. As soon as I recover from the expense of building it I will switch to tubeless which will reduce the weight by some 2 lbs. because of the flat kit. Maybe you guys don't have goat's head thorns. With tubeless the only defense is the running surface and sometimes the even thinner side wall. Not much for a 1/3" long thorn. Or a dozen of them hitting almost simultaneouly. I can only imagine that resulting in an immediate flat and the size of the hole would cause any slime to just ooze all over the place like it happened to me. Only thick tubes and a tire liner did the trick, no more flats since then. So the flat kits I bought from you are pretty much exclusively for use on other cyclists' bikes. For ordinary road riders (not you, of course), tubeless would be perfect for areas infested with goatheads. You get flat resistance without a half-pound of energy-sucking tubes and tire liners. TK is on a race bike and not a cargo bike with panniers, heart-lung machine, flares and rope. Where should such flat resistance come from if 1/10" penetration suffices to cause phsssss and green stuff gurgling out? Even more, why did the couple on the El Dorado Trail get flats on both tubeless MTB while I, riding the very same route, never get any there? Because they didn't carry a growler? They kept pumping up, hoping the slime would finally heal things. It didn't and after 5mi or so I had to leave them behind because a tubeless leak can't be fixed unless you have ... a tube. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Orange sealant works perfectly. It is possible to get a hole large enough to not seal but it would be enough damage that you could NOT repair a normal clincher either. Another miracle juice? I had the green stuff. Yeah, it initially even works but after a few months I suddenly lost pressure. Like a slow flat with green ozzing out. I could only get home by pumping up every few miles. I threw that stuff away the same night. Two other riders on the trail (later, after I had switched to thick tubes and liners) had tubeless with slime and it sure did not hold. The goat's head thorns worked themselves back out and slime came out. Lots of it. They both had to hoof it home. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2018-09-26 08:40, wrote:
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 10:09:27 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-24 08:32, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:54:16 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: YOU GOT A CARBON FIBER BIKE? Yes, I crossed over to the Dark Side again. But the thing is that although there is only some 6 lbs total weight difference from my heaviest steel bike to the CLX, the ride quality of the CLX is easily the best of the lot. It doesn't bounce on those low spots when you're descending at 40 mph and while hitting bumps gives you a jarring just as any other frame material it doesn't continue reverberating from it after the initial strike. As soon as I recover from the expense of building it I will switch to tubeless which will reduce the weight by some 2 lbs. because of the flat kit. Maybe you guys don't have goat's head thorns. With tubeless the only defense is the running surface and sometimes the even thinner side wall. Not much for a 1/3" long thorn. Or a dozen of them hitting almost simultaneouly. I can only imagine that resulting in an immediate flat and the size of the hole would cause any slime to just ooze all over the place like it happened to me. Only thick tubes and a tire liner did the trick, no more flats since then. So the flat kits I bought from you are pretty much exclusively for use on other cyclists' bikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOi4czjB1No Put that in your goats heads. Well, the experience of riders outbhere was a different one. Same for me with so-called thorn-proof slime tubes. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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