A Cycling & bikes forum. CycleBanter.com

Go Back   Home » CycleBanter.com forum » rec.bicycles » Rides
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Cities Turning to Bicycles



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 9th 04, 02:03 AM
TBGibb
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Cities Turning to Bicycles

In article ,
(Laura Bush murdered her boy friend) writes:

"Mark Leuck" wrote in message
news:9jv%c.150515$mD.14615@attbi_s02...
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" wrote in message
om...
(DonQuijote1954) wrote in message
. com...
It makes sense to me, but will "the powers that be" make it happen? I
see SUVs in full control of the road in America.


People aren't forced to buy 3 ton SUVs. They do it cause they think
it's cool to be a highway terrorist. If america imprisoned reckless
drivers that kill and maim, then people would opt for small cars and
bikes.


Thats the biggest load of crap I've seen posted in ages, got some
documentation supporting it?

Of course you don't


Get out of your cave and look at how the car loons drive. You
speeders and DUIs and RLRs and CPDs are terrorists


Personally I'd like to see reactive law enforcement of ALL traffic laws.
"Photo Cop" speed traps and at every traffic light. I'd also like to see the
courts pull licenses from those that scoff at the law, six months on the first
time and then for life. From personal observation this would remove about 10%
of the drivers from the road, but they would be the worst drivers out there so
the impact would be more than a 10% improvement. And the rest of those on the
road would be a whole lot more careful about how they drive, providing even
more improvement.

Tom Gibb
Ads
  #3  
Old September 11th 04, 03:44 AM
TBGibb
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

In article , John David Galt
writes:

Actually, yes they are, if they have families. EPA's mileage requirements
have destroyed the station wagon, leaving no alternative to SUVs.


Ever heard of the "minivan?"

Tom Gibb
  #5  
Old September 15th 04, 05:05 AM
Rick
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Jack May wrote:

But these are figure that don't count the oil used to grow, transport, and
cook the food that is used to power the person that is doing the riding. A
totally stupid analysis.


No, what you wrote qualifies as silly. Those figures are a constant for
both the cyclist and the non-cyclist, since both eat and the food comes
from these same sources. The non-cyclist typically consumes more
calories than the cyclist because cycling improves the effiency of the
human engine and reudces the number of heartbeats per minute, further
reducing the number of calories. While amount of additional food
required to feed a fit cyclist who trains for racing may well be
significant, the commute cyclist does not need any additional food than
his sedentary counterpart and may well consume less.

Its like those idiot that call electric cars zero pollution because they
don't know where the energry came from. Just for food processing we get
"All together the food-processing industry in the United States uses about
ten calories of fossil-fuel energy for every calorie of food energy it
produces."


In those cases, you are correct. There is no non-polluting form of
transport, though some are clearly less polluting and more efficient
than others. If you use, say, hydroelectric or geothermal plants,
pollution is still a huge concern (as is the localized environmantal
damage), but the overall air quality would clearly improve.

....stuff deleted

  #6  
Old September 19th 04, 09:18 PM
Zoot Katz
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:02:33 GMT,
. net,
enslaved scud jockey "Mark Jones" wrote:

Filthy, deadly, stinky and noisey but still just a toy.

Actually it is quite clean and uses 2 catalytic converters
to reduce exhaust emissions.


Lock yourself in the garage with it and burn off a tank of the filthy,
deadly and stinky fuel then tell me how clean it is.

thppppft!
--
zk
  #7  
Old September 20th 04, 03:50 AM
Robert Cote
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

In article ,
Zoot Katz wrote:

Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:02:33 GMT,
. net,
enslaved scud jockey "Mark Jones" wrote:

Filthy, deadly, stinky and noisey but still just a toy.

Actually it is quite clean and uses 2 catalytic converters
to reduce exhaust emissions.


Lock yourself in the garage with it and burn off a tank of the filthy,
deadly and stinky fuel then tell me how clean it is.

thppppft!


A myth left over from old Hollywood movies.
  #8  
Old September 30th 04, 09:38 PM
Terry Morse
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Matthew Russotto wrote:

When I used to ride a road bike, getting airborne was a great way to
bend the wheels.


Then your cycling skills left something to be desired. Bunny hopping
is a very useful skill for avoiding obstacles in the road: speed
bumps, tree branches, broken bottles, fallen cyclists. And no, it
doesn't bend wheels when done correctly.

--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/
  #9  
Old September 30th 04, 09:38 PM
Terry Morse
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Matthew Russotto wrote:

When I used to ride a road bike, getting airborne was a great way to
bend the wheels.


Then your cycling skills left something to be desired. Bunny hopping
is a very useful skill for avoiding obstacles in the road: speed
bumps, tree branches, broken bottles, fallen cyclists. And no, it
doesn't bend wheels when done correctly.

--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/
  #10  
Old October 4th 04, 12:43 PM
Nate Nagel
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Zoot Katz wrote:

Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:55:54 -0400, , Frank
Krygowski wrote:


The Mustang I mentioned earlier - model year 2000, V-6 engine, says the
owner by e-mail - would scrape on some VERY tall speed humps in an
apartment complex, unless driven over them very slowly. That was a
minor irritation to the owner - so he drove them very slowly. But that
car does perfectly fine on the standard speed humps on the residential
streets.



Lots of cars like that scrape bottom when pulling into gas stations,
parking lots and driveways. I know that there are cars that can't get
into underground lots. You see the scrapes at many sorts of different
places than speed humps. I guess they don't complain about those.


You guess wrong; all are examples of sloppy and/or substandard
construction. Bad curb cuts and incorrectly sloped ramps are just as
bad as speed bumps...

nate

--
replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cities Turning to Bicycles Roger Zoul General 468 October 20th 04 02:53 AM
Cops persecuting innocent boys [was: Cities Turning to Bicycles] Frank Krygowski General 6 October 3rd 04 01:58 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 CycleBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.