CHARTING THE ATTEMPT BY GENE DANIELS aka DATAKOLL TO TAKE OVER rec.bicycles.tech (RBT)

On May 18, 12:27*pm, Andre Jute wrote:
On Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:25:59 AM UTC+1, thirty-six wrote:
On May 17, 11:18*pm, Andre Jute wrote:

On Friday, May 17, 2013 2:58:56 PM UTC+1, thirty-six wrote:

On May 17, 5:55*am, Andre Jute wrote:

On Friday, May 17, 2013 5:31:40 AM UTC+1, thirty-six wrote:

On May 17, 2:38*am, Andre Jute wrote:

On Friday, May 17, 2013 1:27:30 AM UTC+1, thirty-six wrote:

On May 14, 12:08*am, Andre Jute wrote:

The one I remember best is also the cheapest, Moscato de Seville, but my wife says she hasn't seen it (in M&S in Cork) for a couple of years now.

Not on website. *Anyway I went today and bought (possibly £7, I

forget) a sweet white Spanish wine, Moscatel de Valencia at 10% vol.

All seems well, bar it barely being in the bottle long enough to get

the glass wet, *just need to find a corkscrew. *Stupid M&S, if it's

good, it will sell with a metal cap.

That's the one. We drank it chilled as an aperitif before dinner. Once I poured some of it over a fruit salad which went down well with the bishop.

Oh good. * Of course I can't remember exactly where any one of,

possibly, seven corkscrews is hiding. *Seems like the right time for a

tidy up.

Of course, if you're a connoisseur of rum, then nothing but the best will do, and, as you say, you might have to adjust.

M&S had a peculiar rum too, was nearly tempted, even if it was pale,

but got a bottle of Irish whiskey of Cooley distillery and I didn't

fancy dropping any so kept it to two bottles. *Cassidy's is like

Clontarf but not so powerful in aroma or flavour from what I

remember. * M&S Irish is good enough as an introduction when one

doesn't want to offend by being too weak (like Co-ops offering) or too

powerful, for which Clontarf may be to a lesser developed palate. *It

blends well with cinnamon flavoured Ledaig (a poor grade scotch single

malt) , so well that I'll be making up another bottle.

If you know enough about this stuff to blend your own, maybe I should suck up for an invitation and an education.

Stop poisoning yourself. * I've a way to go yet myself but at least

I'm not taking anything that requires a limitation of dose so that I

don't croak. *Biggest single benefit I I found in appreciation of

spirits is to get up my daily fat consumption so that my skin does not

dry at any time through the day. *This also means I don't get "burnt"

by the vapours, either in nose or mouth. *It means I can take any 40%

whisky comfortably as it is straight from the bottle and at least a

few at 46% * So when my skin has dried, I reach for the butter and

cream and eat well. *i commonly drink green tea and if I eat meat, it

is early in the day (for breakfast), I eat it to capacity and don't

touch it again for at least 24 hours. *Consumption of fats is

essential to move around minerals via the lymphatic ducts and as such

allows them to be balanced and so not adversely affect taste. * You

may never fully appreciate whisky while falsely understanding a

minimal fat diet and take hormone disrupters which artificially alter

mineral balance to effect changes in capillary flow.

KJV Gen 1:29

If you vary from the guidance of the manual of the creator for so

long, is it so surprising you are ill?

Why, that's precisely what i was trying to persuade my cardiologist of. Without success so far.

The poisons I was prescribed did not stop me getting breathless or

reduce chest pain, did not improve heart function as observed on

echogram or electro-cardiogram and they did prompt severe headaches

and confusion. * It wasn't a difficult decision for me to stop taking

them and the cardiologist would/could/did not suggest any alternative.

* *Dietary fat (in the absence of a plentiful supply of wholesome

seeds, fruits and herbs everyday) is essential to maintain protection

to ones blood vessels. * Dietary fat is essential to maintain mineral

balance throughout the body. *Dietary fat is essential *to easy bowel

evacuation. *Dietary fat is essential to maintain a positive outflow

through one's skin and remove the dust, excessive minerals and toxic

vapours one breathes in. * Whether petrol fumes, brick dust or pollen,

dietary fat is essential to keep our tissues, lymph and blood vessels

clear of disabling constriction and pain. * It's ESSENTIAL fat.

* *I may manage anything from 1oz to 4oz a day of butter, but when I

first realised the probable stupidity of restricting good fats, and I

was extremely poorly at the time, I was knocking back 3, 600ml tubs of

double cream. * The alternative was to be lying on the floor for 3+

hours, getting colder with more pain and muscle tension (cardiac pain

usually the last), barely able to breathe. * *AIUI the lymphatic

system will eventually become so pressurized in the absence of good

fats that it will routinely dump into the blood when we become

physically stressed and the sheer volume of deleterious matter (which

would otherwise be eliminated through skin and bowels with the aid of

fats) *causes heart and general muscle stress and disturbs cognition

and regular physical senses. * Of course not only is this disturbing

physical senses, it is disturbing mental health, including the ability

to dream and create. * Calorie restrictive eating is not only causing

physical disease, it stops creation. *It is ungodly.

* * *If you want to be well, you must allow your lymphatics to purge

correctly, using good fats and greens and resting well before rising

for the day. * Your body will heal itself, given the opportunity.

* *Be aware that the fats I now eat are natural fats, not the rancid

oils of commerce. * I feel no urge to see *a show directed by a

cardiologist or be the principle subject in such a performance however

fancy his scenery, props or the costumes of the supporting cast.

What do you call this diet, Trevor? How long have you been on it? -- Andre Jute

it's a diet of sanity. I've no need to call it. * I've had dry skin

along with "heart failure", "angina", "lung fibrosis" and a heavy

collection of diagnosees, with no real help from doctors and their

prescribed poisonous substances of congestible ability over the

years. *All that would occur is that i would keep getting exhausted

trying to follow their impossible direction. *I'm still having

trouble, but that's because there is years of crap in my lymph system

which is now coming back to life.

* *I'm using my skin for feedback of adequate fat intake, mostly

avoiding congestible foods, *and ensuring I get something green in my

belly, which may be green tea if I'm not hungry. * Chick peas and

dill, with butter seems very good for me, when I've an appetite.

There is no regime, I'm just re-identifying the feedback systems, the

identification and use of which was learned out from me starting

around the age of 7. *Some initial decongestion is required before one

can notice further effects of specific foods upon the body. *I'm still

heavily congested, decision making becomes difficult at times so I

revert to the buttered porridge and green tea

I'm not passing judgement either way here. I just observe that when dietitians presume to lecture me, I put them down right smartly by smiling pleasantly and enquiring into what they ate last night, and the night before, invariably they've eaten red meat with fat on it when I've eaten fish or fowl.. I've eaten what is considered a healthy mediterranean diet all my life, except for loving shellfish, and I still have a dickie heart in what in my longlived family is just later middle-age.

But I observed when I was young that many of the longest-lived men in my family were farmers who thought nothing of eating a slab of speck (baked pork fat two inches thick) among several eggs, bacon, sausage, etc, for breakfast, and would send sausages or a chicken back to the kitchen unless it was absolutely dripping fat. At the time I ascribed it to an active live, but you're putting a different perspective on it.


It seems that it is the meat (and fish), milk and grain proteins which
overload our immune system when eaten without the lashings of fat for
which we should enjoy. Without the "essential fatty-acids" taken on
a daily basis there is little to soap up the damaging proteins and
one's immune system has to work with what little is released from body
fat. Trouble is, because of a low-fat, protein rich diet which has
been educated into us, that stored fat is already loaded with proteins
and metabolic waste along with dust from the air. It's the fats
which cleanse our body. if it wasn't for health-education and the
acceptance of such false direction, the common man would be strong and
not reliant on the whims of madical doctors. Is it any wonder that
doctors rarely comment on food, when the dieticians are making such a
good job on the other hand of the industry.
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Tonight I'm cooking hot dogs with either bratwurst, if the real thing is available, or Cumberland sausages made by a local butcher from named pigs, just enough fat to give it taste. My food pages are athttp://coolmainpress.com/andrejutefoodindex.html


Well you'll need to rest after all that protein (meat, rusk, bread)
while your lymph struggles to work without dietary fat. Try a dozen
green olives as they contain both the fat and the drive to assist your
lymphatics. Eat some buttered greens and then some raw sweet
fruit.

Doctors rarely mention lymph and immune when they can otherwise
control your life with bacterium and other "infection" nonsense. If
they can't get us to take their poisons (which will incapacitate in
themselves) they'll try suggesting hacking bits out. "You'll have to
see a specialist" (with all the props) occurs when a "Pleasant
gentleman" is accepting of the mesmerism and there is profit to be
made in such a referral of another director/clinic/theatre.


Of course if it was as simple as eating buttered greens, oranges,
pomegranates, avocado and drinking green tea and the common man took
on this knowledge, then the hospitals would be only for the rich and
the national harm service (UK specific nomenclature, will also apply
elsewhere) would have to restructure else the bonesetters would take
all their business. There may be a desire by the "physicians",
"hospitals" and supporting industries to deny this. They may wish to
encourage (although not directly, only under the cover of legislation)
the consunption of wheat, lean meat, milk, sugar, coffee and black
tea, and cooked food generally. Consider that even when those
inside the industry have the knowledge, they have invested a few years
in training and ir's such a cushy job that there's no personal reason
to deny the bull that will see them comfortably into old age.

On Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:48:35 PM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:
I thought it might be amusing to chart the attempts by Gene Daniels aka Datakoll to take over the rec. bicycles.tech newsgroup (RBT). Perhaps I can use it as a case study in self-delusion and overweening, entirely unjustified ambition for my grad students, as I did the earlier attempts of the Magnequest Scum to take over rec. audio.tubes (RAT).



Andre Jute

Sauvitor in modo, fortiter in res

That exercise was over before it started. The impertinent redneck Daniels turned tail and ran. So much for his plot to take over RBT. It turned out to be not even enough exertion to put down his few remaining friends (Barone, Howard, Muzi -- what are you doing with the thief Howard and the worthless traducer Barone, Andrew?) for me to break sweat, and even the other resident fascist mentalities weren't dumb enough to stand up with Daniels. Not much standing at all to be seen at the contemptible end of RBT, and a lot of cowardly bellycrawling, including some limp attempts at anklebiting by the thief and coward Howard.

Andre Jute
Even the wannabe flame warriors are limp

On Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:24:48 AM UTC-6, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:48:35 PM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:

I thought it might be amusing to chart the attempts by Gene Daniels aka Datakoll to take over the rec. bicycles.tech newsgroup (RBT). Perhaps I can use it as a case study in self-delusion and overweening, entirely unjustified ambition for my grad students, as I did the earlier attempts of the Magnequest Scum to take over rec. audio.tubes (RAT).







Andre Jute



Sauvitor in modo, fortiter in res



That exercise was over before it started. The impertinent redneck Daniels turned tail and ran. So much for his plot to take over RBT. It turned out to be not even enough exertion to put down his few remaining friends (Barone, Howard, Muzi -- what are you doing with the thief Howard and the worthless traducer Barone, Andrew?) for me to break sweat, and even the other resident fascist mentalities weren't dumb enough to stand up with Daniels. Not much standing at all to be seen at the contemptible end of RBT, and a lot of cowardly bellycrawling, including some limp attempts at anklebiting by the thief and coward Howard.



Andre Jute

Even the wannabe flame warriors are limp

Holy guacamole! Hadn't been attending RBT meetings for a while and I've obviously been missing all the fun.

On 5/25/2013 8:59 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:24:48 AM UTC-6, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:48:35 PM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:

I thought it might be amusing to chart the attempts by Gene Daniels aka Datakoll to take over the rec. bicycles.tech newsgroup (RBT). Perhaps I can use it as a case study in self-delusion and overweening, entirely unjustified ambition for my grad students, as I did the earlier attempts of the Magnequest Scum to take over rec. audio.tubes (RAT).







Andre Jute



Sauvitor in modo, fortiter in res



That exercise was over before it started. The impertinent redneck Daniels turned tail and ran. So much for his plot to take over RBT. It turned out to be not even enough exertion to put down his few remaining friends (Barone, Howard, Muzi -- what are you doing with the thief Howard and the worthless traducer Barone, Andrew?) for me to break sweat, and even the other resident fascist mentalities weren't dumb enough to stand up with Daniels. Not much standing at all to be seen at the contemptible end of RBT, and a lot of cowardly bellycrawling, including some limp attempts at anklebiting by the thief and coward Howard.



Andre Jute

Even the wannabe flame warriors are limp

Holy guacamole! Hadn't been attending RBT meetings for a while and I've obviously been missing all the fun.


How's that flood going? Nothing like a deluge to take one's
mind off the drought. Geez, you all have had a rough coulpe
of years.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

gotta load the canoe and AK

http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/index.php?wfo=maf

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 2:59:41 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:24:48 AM UTC-6, Andre Jute wrote:

On Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:48:35 PM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:



I thought it might be amusing to chart the attempts by Gene Daniels aka Datakoll to take over the rec. bicycles.tech newsgroup (RBT). Perhaps I can use it as a case study in self-delusion and overweening, entirely unjustified ambition for my grad students, as I did the earlier attempts of the Magnequest Scum to take over rec. audio.tubes (RAT).















Andre Jute







Sauvitor in modo, fortiter in res







That exercise was over before it started. The impertinent redneck Daniels turned tail and ran. So much for his plot to take over RBT. It turned out to be not even enough exertion to put down his few remaining friends (Barone, Howard, Muzi -- what are you doing with the thief Howard and the worthless traducer Barone, Andrew?) for me to break sweat, and even the other resident fascist mentalities weren't dumb enough to stand up with Daniels. Not much standing at all to be seen at the contemptible end of RBT, and a lot of cowardly bellycrawling, including some limp attempts at anklebiting by the thief and coward Howard.







Andre Jute



Even the wannabe flame warriors are limp



Holy guacamole! Hadn't been attending RBT meetings for a while and I've obviously been missing all the fun.

That's the problem, Andres. You missed nothing. Just Krygowski the Mortician assuring us in his most morbid tones that unless we ride in the middle of the highway, we shall all become road kill statistics. RBT is duller the a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous taking the pledge.

Andre Jute

On May 25, 8:45 pm, datakoll wrote:
gotta load the canoe and AK

http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/index.php?wfo=maf

My house a little over a year ago:

http://i41.tinypic.com/jr3arb.jpg

FEMA just tore down the house across the street about a week ago.

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:34:30 AM UTC+1, Dan O wrote:

My house a little over a year ago:

http://i41.tinypic.com/jr3arb.jpg

FEMA just tore down the house across the street about a week ago.

That looks expensive. We live in a town with periodic flooding, including where we lived before, where the carpets on the ground floor would be ruined every few years by what seems in my memory water not quite as deep as your problem last year. The council has been building up the walls beside the river, and dredging it, but that doesn't stop the problem recurring. My barber has photographs on the wall of the floods over the decades, going back to her father's time. Everywhere you hear about intermittent floods, it seems an insoluble problem.

Andre Jute

On May 26, 1:04 am, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:34:30 AM UTC+1, Dan O wrote:

My house a little over a year ago:

http://i41.tinypic.com/jr3arb.jpg

FEMA just tore down the house across the street about a week ago.

That looks expensive. We live in a town with periodic flooding, including where we lived before, where the carpets on the ground floor would be ruined every few years by what seems in my memory water not quite as deep as your problem last year. The council has been building up the walls beside the river, and dredging it, but that doesn't stop the problem recurring. My barber has photographs on the wall of the floods over the decades, going back to her father's time. Everywhere you hear about intermittent floods, it seems an insoluble problem.


When we bought our house, the official hydrology maps showed it well
out of the flood plain (I met a group of various government, et al,
people - obviously out-of-towners - walking around the neighborhood
surveying after this last flood - the County guy carrying a bunch of
maps. I talked to him about how it had gone. I think he intends to
revise the maps.)

I understand now after-the-fact that our house flooded not-too-many
years before we bought it, but it has not been historically in the
flood plain. I think there have been "engineering" changes elsewhere
that have resulted in change.

The pic looks bad enough, but at that time the family was still
waiting it out inside the house and living essentially normally. The
main level got no water inside (damn near, though). Unfortunately,
the garage and two rooms are about a foot-and-a-half *below* that
level, another room about four inches below also stayed dry, and
another room about an inch below that wicked water into the carpet
from below.

The day before I noted high water coming up in the fields and onto the
roads. I was up early that day anticipating high water on the road
might keep me from getting to work in town (or at least be a palusible
excuse). I was the only one up, and had just come in from the garage
where there wasn't even so much as a puddle in the driveway, when the
fire deprtment pager went off. I checked it, and it said, "Public
Assistance" - not more than a mile from my house. Hmm.., Then it wen
toff again - more public assistance... then again: "Water Rescue".
What the... I headed back down to the garage to maybe get on my bike
and ride to the station, but there was water flowing into the hallway
leading to the garage.

I went back up and told my wife to wake up the kids and start getting
some stuff together ready to leave the house if necessary, then went
back downstairs. It was rising fast. I started trying to round up
the cats. One was on top of some stuff out in the garage, and I was
wading knee deep as I got him inside.

Still missing a cat or two, I heard loud, distressed yowling coming
from under the kitchen porch. I went around to the crawlspace access,
and the water was already above it. I got a claw hammer, ripped up
part of the porch floor, and retrieved (somebody else's) drenched cat
up to its neck. (Eventually all the cats came out from hiding safe
inside.)

It came up so fast, then slowly rising and ebbing throughout the day -
thankfully never breaching the main part of the house. Then late in
the day it receded almost as fast as it had come up. It wasn't like
slowly rising floodwater; it was like the flood water upstream had
needed someplace else to go, and spawned a new stream right through my
part of town - heading for the creek a few blocks downstream. There
was significant current and eddies all day flowing around the house.

On May 26, 9:56 am, Dan O wrote:

snip flood story

(Must stop repeating the same stories over again - sure sign of
senility... or narcicism.)