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Old July 31st 06, 03:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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wrote:
Could be.

But I don't know why people bemoan the obvious regarding Tour de France
winners, and the other participants.

Come on, folks. Common sense tells us that bikers CAN NOT EVEN COMPETE
in this event unless they're fueled by illegal, but largely
undetectable, enhancement drugs! ALL OF 'EM! And sometimes, like
Floyd, they get caught.

And please don't insist that Lance Armstrong "won the right way,"
unless you also mean the wrong way!

Now, for the umpteenth time, "for all you youngsters out there," with
so many multi-millions of endorsement and appearance $ DOLLARS $ at
stake, do you think ANY rational biker would even consider ENTERING a
big event like the TDF without FIRST carefully choosing to ingest the
best possible menu of performance-enhancing drugs?

And do you think ONE guy--Armstrong--could win SEVEN straight
TDFs--against fierce world-class competition--without the assistance of
drugs?

And do you even fully believe Lance's cancer survival stories? Like
overcoming BRAIN cancer? Like, you don't buy the notion that, just
maybe, some public relations-cum- sports agent didn't dream at least
some of this up to boost publicity and recognition?
What a STORY, right? Don't cry because you bought it hook, line and
sinker. After all, you're not alone!

IF you're STILL in denial, relax. And enjoy future Tours de France,
safe in the knowledge that all those buff young men are on illegal
chemicals, and thus the field is, after all, truly COMPETITIVE.

Maybe we'll call it the Tour de Drug, or Tour de Hormone, or Tour de
Alchemie, oui?


Well, I don't know about Armstrong or Landis vis a vis the doping
scandals but I'm fairly certain that if a recreational rider could get
their hands on the dope you're obviously taking, they could pedal to
the moon on a rusty Huffy.

Get well soon.

PS Lay off the CAPS, it makes you read like a troll . . . . .oh,
nevermind.

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Old July 31st 06, 04:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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D2 wrote:

Well, I don't know about Armstrong or Landis vis a vis the doping
scandals but I'm fairly certain that if a recreational rider could get
their hands on the dope you're obviously taking, they could pedal to
the moon on a rusty Huffy.

Get well soon.

PS Lay off the CAPS, it makes you read like a troll . . . . .oh,
nevermind.

It has been brought to attention medically that heavy dopers, weight
lifters in particular, set themselves up for all kinds of problems later
in life, like early heart attacks, strokes, and things that you would
normally expect to happen to much older people.
Is winning worth 10 or more years off your lifetime?
Bill Baka
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Old August 1st 06, 02:34 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:21:24 GMT, Bill Baka wrote:

D2 wrote:

Well, I don't know about Armstrong or Landis vis a vis the doping
scandals but I'm fairly certain that if a recreational rider could get
their hands on the dope you're obviously taking, they could pedal to
the moon on a rusty Huffy.

Get well soon.

PS Lay off the CAPS, it makes you read like a troll . . . . .oh,
nevermind.

It has been brought to attention medically that heavy dopers, weight
lifters in particular, set themselves up for all kinds of problems later
in life, like early heart attacks, strokes, and things that you would
normally expect to happen to much older people.
Is winning worth 10 or more years off your lifetime?


A lot of competitive cyclists are set up to have health problems right now. Guys
like Rasmussen and Hamilton are simply not healthy.

Frankly I'd consider being a doped GC man like basso or ullrich to be healthier
than being an impaired immune system, low bone density skeletal climber.

Ron
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Old August 1st 06, 07:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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RonSonic wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:21:24 GMT, Bill Baka wrote:

D2 wrote:
Well, I don't know about Armstrong or Landis vis a vis the doping
scandals but I'm fairly certain that if a recreational rider could get
their hands on the dope you're obviously taking, they could pedal to
the moon on a rusty Huffy.

Get well soon.

PS Lay off the CAPS, it makes you read like a troll . . . . .oh,
nevermind.

It has been brought to attention medically that heavy dopers, weight
lifters in particular, set themselves up for all kinds of problems later
in life, like early heart attacks, strokes, and things that you would
normally expect to happen to much older people.
Is winning worth 10 or more years off your lifetime?


A lot of competitive cyclists are set up to have health problems right now. Guys
like Rasmussen and Hamilton are simply not healthy.

Frankly I'd consider being a doped GC man like basso or ullrich to be healthier
than being an impaired immune system, low bone density skeletal climber.

Ron


I don't even like to take Aspirin, although my doctor recommended it
after my Cholesterol came in at 201. Who is he kidding? 201 is high?
Bill Baka
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Old August 1st 06, 01:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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Bill Baka wrote:

It has been brought to attention medically that heavy dopers, weight
lifters in particular, set themselves up for all kinds of problems later
in life, like early heart attacks, strokes, and things that you would
normally expect to happen to much older people.
Is winning worth 10 or more years off your lifetime?


Working 16-hour days, not eating well, and not exercising, which might
fairly be said to be the *real* (remember paradigms?) of the working
world-- what's so freaking healthy about that?

It wasn't too long ago that the 65 year old mandatory retirement age
saved employers a lot of money.

Damn Boomers. Slacked and survived... --D-y

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Old August 1st 06, 03:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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And do you even fully believe Lance's cancer survival stories? Like
overcoming BRAIN cancer?


Firstly, it was testicular, not brain, cancer.

Of course, that is the part of the body that most men seem to think
with, so maybe that's a moot point.

Secondly, this wasn't faked. Only a whacko conspiracy theorist would
think that dozens of medical personnel would risk their licenses, the
reputation of the hospitals for which they work, and their professional
reputations by lying about a high-profile medical case. Or that such a
deception could possibly be carried of - for YEARS - without somebody
spilling it all to the public.

Sojourner

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Old August 1st 06, 04:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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Sojourner wrote:

Firstly, it was testicular, not brain, cancer.

Of course, that is the part of the body that most men seem to think
with, so maybe that's a moot point.


Nyuk nyuk. Good 'un.

Testicular cancer, brain lesions (cancer), lungs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Armstrong

Lance has talked about the lack of research into metastasis IRT the
LAF. --D-y

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Old August 1st 06, 04:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com wrote:

Did ya see that Floyd was reported to have artificial Testasterone in
him??

CYA Floyd!!


Easier to charge sabotage and/or contamination?

PS: "Testasterone" -- hormone produced by driving a really fast Italian
car?

:-P


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Old August 1st 06, 04:39 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.marketplace
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Sojourner wrote:
And do you even fully believe Lance's cancer survival stories? Like
overcoming BRAIN cancer?


Firstly, it was testicular, not brain, cancer.


It spread throughout his body, including brain, lungs and lymph nodes IIRC.


 




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