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EuanB Wrote: All registration tells the police is who owns the car and the residential address. It doesn't tell the police where that person happens to be at a point in time. Further the incident has already happened, priority for police resources would porbably have been given to inicidents where the police can make a difference, leaving after the fact policing till quieter times, which is sensible. There was a fairly extensive story about it on PM on ABC radio national yesterday afternoon. '' (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2239488.htm) My impression from the story was that Kevin Nichols took the rego number and also spoke to the driver of the car. This makes me think that there should be a good chance of identifying the actual driver - particularly if it was the registered owner. RoryW'transcript' (http://''transcript' (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2239488.htm)' (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2239488.htm)) -- Rory Williams |
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On 2008-05-09, EuanB (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: Duncan Wrote: btw: I find it astounding that the police have taken more than a day to talk to this lunatic. They have the rego, why didn't they scoot around there asap and have a quiet word? All registration tells the police is who owns the car and the residential address. It doesn't tell the police where that person happens to be at a point in time. Further the incident has already happened, priority for police resources would porbably have been given to inicidents where the police can make a difference, leaving after the fact policing till quieter times, which is sensible. Except that it has been reported that this guy is already known to police, which means he is already suspected of having offended in the past, and will offend again. As such, I would have guessed he would be one of their highest priority cases. Because he knows he is known (and a description of him has been plastered all over the newspapers), you can bet he's gone "missing". So we just have to wait for him to turn up in Kalgoolie... And for his sake, he better be hoping someone isn't going to rip out his gonads through his throat, when he is found. -- TimC A debugged program is one for which you have not yet found the conditions that make it fail. -- Jerry Ogdin |
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Rory Williams Wrote: There was a fairly extensive story about it on PM on ABC radio national yesterday afternoon. 'transcript' (http://''transcript' (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2239488.htm)' (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2239488.htm)) trying to get the hyperlink right RoryW -- Rory Williams |
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On May 9, 12:17 pm, TimC -
astro.swin.edu.au wrote: On 2008-05-09, EuanB (aka Bruce) was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: Duncan Wrote: btw: I find it astounding that the police have taken more than a day to talk to this lunatic. They have the rego, why didn't they scoot around there asap and have a quiet word? All registration tells the police is who owns the car and the residential address. It doesn't tell the police where that person happens to be at a point in time. Further the incident has already happened, priority for police resources would porbably have been given to inicidents where the police can make a difference, leaving after the fact policing till quieter times, which is sensible. Except that it has been reported that this guy is already known to police, which means he is already suspected of having offended in the past, and will offend again. As such, I would have guessed he would be one of their highest priority cases. Because he knows he is known (and a description of him has been plastered all over the newspapers), you can bet he's gone "missing". So we just have to wait for him to turn up in Kalgoolie... And for his sake, he better be hoping someone isn't going to rip out his gonads through his throat, when he is found. Interesting hearing his side of the story, though: "I've pulled over, I had time to put my hazard lights on, put it into park, go to start it in petrol, half a dozen maybe 15 cyclists rode past me, and then all of a sudden one or two went bang bang into the back of my car," he said. |
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On Fri, 09 May 2008 02:17:51 GMT, TimC
Except that it has been reported that this guy is already known to police, which means he is already suspected of having offended in the past, and will offend again. As such, I would have guessed he would be one of their highest priority cases. Because he knows he is known (and a description of him has been plastered all over the newspapers), you can bet he's gone "missing". So we just have to wait for him to turn up in Kalgoolie... And for his sake, he better be hoping someone isn't going to rip out his gonads through his throat, when he is found. He's claiming innocence ! http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-29277,00.html I'm no cyclist hater, says driver May 09, 2008 11:49am A MAN who claims he was the driver of a car at the centre of a road-rage attack says he is no "cyclist hater" and he was having engine trouble when he stopped in front of a pack of cyclists, causing a crash. The man, who identified himself only as Jason, said it was not anger at being stuck behind the pack of 50 riders that made him overtake then stop in front of them. The incident occurred near Sydney airport yesterday morning. More than 20 riders - including professional cyclists Kate Nichols and Olympic hopeful Ben Kersten - were injured when they ran into the back of the car. "I'm not a cyclist hater, I'm not nothing," Jason said on Macquarie radio this morning. "I was just driving along and I had a car failure and now I'm in trouble - I dunno." Jason said his car stalled, forcing him to pull up partly in the emergency lane and partly in the left-hand lane. "I've pulled over, I had time to put my hazard lights on, put it into park, go to start it in petrol, half a dozen maybe 15 cyclists rode past me, and then all of a sudden one or two went bang bang into the back of my car," he said. Jason said he switched the car from gas to petrol and it started. His girlfriend was also in the car and they drove off as dozens of cyclists surrounded his car. "(They were) all looking at me like I'm an idiot and calling me names," he said. "I thought, `I'm not getting out of the car with 50 blokes wanting to hit me'. I just drove off." Jason said he had spoken to police at 9pm yesterday and they had photographed some marks on his car. Kersten rang the station immediately afterwards and accused Jason of lying. "Mate, you're a lying dog. You are a liar and you are going to get caught for it," he said, while Jason was on the line. "You were doing 60 kilometres an hour and then stopped to zero ... what you did was ridiculous. "Who takes off after they accidentally cause such damage - who isn't remorseful?" |
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In aus.bicycle on Thu, 8 May 2008 19:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
Duncan wrote: Interesting hearing his side of the story, though: "I've pulled over, I had time to put my hazard lights on, put it into park, go to start it in petrol, half a dozen maybe 15 cyclists rode past me, and then all of a sudden one or two went bang bang into the back of my car," he said. I'd say the semi trailer driver would be a useful independent witness. Zebee |
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On May 8, 10:21 pm, cfsmtb cfsmtb.393...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com wrote: AndrewJ Wrote: It's a very simple process to locate somebody once you have a registration number. All a rego number tells the authorities is who the registered owner is. Doesn't inform who was actually driving the vehicle or where they are now. A rego number also doesn't predict how much the alleged driver will try to get their legal representation to get them off the charges once the case slowly gets to court or what the verdict outcome eventually is etc ... -- cfsmtb the police can be quite good at shaking (metaphorically) the driver's identify out of an owner who is less legally aware. |
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On May 9, 12:44 pm, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on Thu, 8 May 2008 19:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Duncan wrote: Interesting hearing his side of the story, though: "I've pulled over, I had time to put my hazard lights on, put it into park, go to start it in petrol, half a dozen maybe 15 cyclists rode past me, and then all of a sudden one or two went bang bang into the back of my car," he said. I'd say the semi trailer driver would be a useful independent witness. Indeed. As usual with all these sorts of things, though.. there are two sides to the story. duncan ps: lots of idiocy going on over in aus.cars |
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On May 9, 9:43 am, Duncan wrote:
On May 9, 12:17 am, cfsmtb cfsmtb.393...@no- mx.forums.cyclingforums.com wrote: In the complete absence of anything really sensible in the media regarding yesterdays 'road rage' incident in Sydney, Alan Odds from the newly-formed National Roads and Cyclists Association has issued this press release: NRCA: Evans inflames an already hostile situationhttp://www.mynrca.com.au/road_rage.pdf -- cfsmtb Well there's something sensible in the media now. Odds has been published in the SMH. http://tinyurl.com/5yq5pa "The president of the National Roads and Cyclists Association, Alan Odds, said cyclists had every right to be on the road but "they still get abuse hurled at them, stuff thrown at them - female cyclists get wolf-whistled". "So what if a cyclist takes 30 seconds off your journey to work?" he said. "For some reason, lycra to motorists is like a red rag to a bull." btw: I find it astounding that the police have taken more than a day to talk to this lunatic. They have the rego, why didn't they scoot around there asap and have a quiet word? duncan I thought it was a great press release, but I don't like this bit about a cyclist taking 30 seconds off. OK, a rider/bunch might delay a motorist, but they catch straight up to the other traffic or next red light when they pass, i.e. no delay at all. |
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On May 9, 12:44 pm, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on Thu, 8 May 2008 19:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Duncan wrote: Interesting hearing his side of the story, though: "I've pulled over, I had time to put my hazard lights on, put it into park, go to start it in petrol, half a dozen maybe 15 cyclists rode past me, and then all of a sudden one or two went bang bang into the back of my car," he said. I'd say the semi trailer driver would be a useful independent witness. Zebee I'd say the 6-15 cyclists, all sentient beings, would be sufficient for the average magistrate. Donga |
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