Scary Road Rage Incident

Shawn wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Shawn wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Phil W Lee wrote:
Shawn considered Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:58:58 -0600 the
perfect time to write:

wrote:
On Aug 12, 11:42 am, Shawn wrote:
wrote:
False. If you’re traveling slower than other traffic you have
a legal
obligation to pull over and let faster traffic by.
False, at least in Colorado. Years ago there was a ballot
initiative to
require vehicles with five or more vehicles lined up behind to
pull over
and allow the faster traffic to pass. It failed.

As you said...

The “rights” you speak of are a fallacy created in

your demented mind.
;-)

Shawn
Specific Colorado Laws:
snip bicycle laws.

I said "vehicle" not bike. From the context of the thread you
seemed to be making a blanket statement regarding all traffic, not
specifically bikes. Unless the law has since changed, in Colorado
it is legal to poke along in a Winabagel, up a pass with a dozen
cars behind you. Sucks!

Indeed, which makes that law discriminatory, which is why I questioned
it's validity under US law.
Before screaming that ones chosen method of transport is not anything
that could be protected by andti-discrimination law, consider that
there are some people who (for whatever reason) are not capable of
obtaining a driving licence, and in many of those cases, it could be
due to a disability.

Accommodations for the disabled have no place in a free market society.

A completely free market has no place in a civilized society.

What are you, a Godless Commie?


I use the term "Godless Commie" as a parody of hysterical right-wingers.
I should probably put the "" at the end next time.

Godless implies the existence of god(s).
Commie? No. I see the obvious. A free market society is as functional
as a communist (marxist or lennenist) society. Government and market
must work together via the actions of the electorate consumer.
Are you a Christofascist? ;-)

My friend Ed Dolan over on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent is always calling
me a "liberal whacko nut".

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

Tom Sherman wrote:
Shawn wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Shawn wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Phil W Lee wrote:
Shawn considered Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:58:58 -0600
the
perfect time to write:

wrote:
On Aug 12, 11:42 am, Shawn wrote:
wrote:
False. If you’re traveling slower than other traffic you have
a legal
obligation to pull over and let faster traffic by.
False, at least in Colorado. Years ago there was a ballot
initiative to
require vehicles with five or more vehicles lined up behind to
pull over
and allow the faster traffic to pass. It failed.

As you said...

The “rights” you speak of are a fallacy created in

your demented mind.
;-)

Shawn
Specific Colorado Laws:
snip bicycle laws.

I said "vehicle" not bike. From the context of the thread you
seemed to be making a blanket statement regarding all traffic,
not specifically bikes. Unless the law has since changed, in
Colorado it is legal to poke along in a Winabagel, up a pass with
a dozen cars behind you. Sucks!

Indeed, which makes that law discriminatory, which is why I
questioned
it's validity under US law.
Before screaming that ones chosen method of transport is not anything
that could be protected by andti-discrimination law, consider that
there are some people who (for whatever reason) are not capable of
obtaining a driving licence, and in many of those cases, it could be
due to a disability.

Accommodations for the disabled have no place in a free market
society.

A completely free market has no place in a civilized society.

What are you, a Godless Commie?


I use the term "Godless Commie" as a parody of hysterical right-wingers.
I should probably put the "" at the end next time.

Godless implies the existence of god(s).
Commie? No. I see the obvious. A free market society is as
functional as a communist (marxist or lennenist) society. Government
and market must work together via the actions of the electorate consumer.
Are you a Christofascist? ;-)

My friend Ed Dolan over on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent is always calling
me a "liberal whacko nut".

Cool! I kinda want a bumper sticker for my Honda Fit that says "Gun
Toting Liberal" but I'd have to buy the gun(s) and I have enough hobbies.

Shawn

Tom Sherman wrote:
Shawn wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Shawn wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Phil W Lee wrote:
Shawn considered Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:58:58 -0600
the
perfect time to write:

wrote:
On Aug 12, 11:42 am, Shawn wrote:
wrote:
False. If you’re traveling slower than other traffic you have
a legal
obligation to pull over and let faster traffic by.
False, at least in Colorado. Years ago there was a ballot
initiative to
require vehicles with five or more vehicles lined up behind to
pull over
and allow the faster traffic to pass. It failed.

As you said...

The “rights” you speak of are a fallacy created in

your demented mind.
;-)

Shawn
Specific Colorado Laws:
snip bicycle laws.

I said "vehicle" not bike. From the context of the thread you
seemed to be making a blanket statement regarding all traffic,
not specifically bikes. Unless the law has since changed, in
Colorado it is legal to poke along in a Winabagel, up a pass with
a dozen cars behind you. Sucks!

Indeed, which makes that law discriminatory, which is why I
questioned
it's validity under US law.
Before screaming that ones chosen method of transport is not anything
that could be protected by andti-discrimination law, consider that
there are some people who (for whatever reason) are not capable of
obtaining a driving licence, and in many of those cases, it could be
due to a disability.

Accommodations for the disabled have no place in a free market
society.

Oh yeah, on behalf of my autistic son...
**** You!

W H O O S H !

If Shawn did not fly off the handle, he(she?) would realize that my
statement did not (of course) necessarily mean I was I proponent of
such a free market society (as any regular of this group would realize).

Necessarily? Is that like when Obi Wan told Luke his father died
"from a certain point of view"? You guys sure like to use that "if
you were a regular" line. /rollseyes/

Well, I have engaged in enough off-topic political flames wars that the
regulars would know where I was coming from.

For Shawn's information, I have been diagnosed with Asperger's
syndrome, so I have a better understanding of what his son goes
through than most of the population.

He needs the sort of services a free market society has no place for.

To clarify for Shawn (since it appears necessary), I posted the
comment about the free market society as a complaint, not a promotion
of the idea.

Point taken. Perhaps if I were a regular ;-) ...

Ah well, so much for me being civilized.

No offense taken, since I was being a bit of a smart ass...

Thanks. If I read his post correctly (Hmmm...) perhaps you should go
straighten Phil out elsewhere in this thread. :-)

Shawn

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:01:14 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

brink wrote:

Sounds about par for the course... different situations = different "Rules
Of Decorum" for people. It's amazing how long and patiently people will
wait in line at a bank... compared with how long and patiently they'll wait
when delayed on a road somewhere.

You know why a lot of them are in such a hurry? They're in a hurry
to get home so that they can plop down on the couch, turn on the TV, and
watch programming that includes 15 minutes of commercials per hour.

I'll bet there's a study showing the hours spent bicycling reduces
the hours wasted watching TV.

Anecdotal data point: I'd be hard pressed to name one of my cycling
friends who even owns a television set.
--
zk