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Could Key West be a bike model for America?
Harry Brogan wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:37:25 -0500, Henry wrote: BrianNZ wrote: Henry wrote: Now I have a question for you. Here's what the experts say about WTC7. Do you dispute any of it? If so, what and why, exactly? http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/0...-of-wtc-7.html I am talking about the Twin Towers here.....only the Twin Towers......don't go off on the WTC7 tangent again. I answered your questions. Why are you unwilling to discuss WTC7's obvious demolition? Why are you posting this drivel in CYCLING groups???? There ARE newsgroups out there better suited for these discussions. alt.current-events.wtc.bush-knew alt.current-events.wtc-explosion Go there and make your posts. Folks in the cycling newsgroups don't want this crap posted here. If we want to discuss this then we would SUBSCRIBE to those groups. GO AWAY ASSHOLE There do not appear to be any hypotheses about the destruction of WTC 1, 2 and 7 that involve cyclists. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate. |
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Could Key West be a bike model for America?
"Henry" wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: What did Edward Dolan write? [...] You are less than a sniffing, tainted, dampish ****face. You are a moiling, idle, encysted looter. You are a pimping, sun-dried, heat-releasing flummery. You frolicking, rancid, loopy yes-man. You evacuating, overweening, stodgy goblin. You stammering, motionless, just potty-trained imbecile. You are a screaking, arse-faced, overexcited arse. You are a nidificating, empty-headed, shuffling gull-catcher. You intonating, symbiotic, contrived grandma. You collapsing, illogical, teeming flirt-gill. You are less than a vomiting, baffled, melancholic death-token. You are a squalling, puppyish, blanched snot****. You are less than a dizzying, strip-mined, rash hayseed. You burning, flap-mouthed, floppy fugitive. You nitrifying, impertinent, slapstick zigzagger. You are a groveling, domesticated, ransacked telephonist. You are a freaking, droll, bearded wretch. You flopping, moldering, foppish homo. You are a farrowing, askew, abject waste of space. You bellyaching, brainwashed, pudgy gipsy. You are a stooping, stemless, squashed testicle. You are a bellowing, gushy, irreligious cornflake. You bitching, moribund, dud gimcrack. You sniffing, high voltage, overstrung pituitary gland. You waddling, light-fingered, pessimum flea beetle. You officiating, negligible, deliquescent garbage carter. You drooling, garbled, one-celled flypaper. You are less than a generalising, infective, consumptive neuter. You are a baffling, rotten, bucktooth piece of dog excrement. You cankering, disoriented, suspicious ****-knuckle. ****ing Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Could Key West be a bike model for America?
Edward Dolan wrote:
What did Edward Dolan write? Like most Bush parroting cartoon conspiracy kooks, Ed wrote some kook drivel, and failed miserably to answer challenges to his comical kook rants. chuckle http://www.journalof911studies.com/v...impossible.pdf 9/11 and the Twin Towers: Sudden Collapse Initiation was Impossible By Frank Legge, PhD (Chemistry) and Tony Szamboti, Mechanical Engineer Numerous arguments have been presented that the Twin Towers at the World Trade Centre could not have collapsed in the observed manner due to the cause asserted in the NIST report, namely damage from plane impact and fire. 1 The bases of these arguments include the rapidity and symmetry of collapse, 2 the adequacy of the steel supports, 3 and the finding of incendiary residues in the dust. 4 It has also been argued that the initiating event in the official explanation, the sudden collapse of one storey, 1 could not have occurred because the steel was not hot enough. 5 This argument is based on data set out in the NIST report itself. There is another argument, as will be described here, that is based simply on the behaviour of hot steel under load. No calculations are involved and no knowledge of the temperature of the steel is required. In the official explanation the collapse occurs in two stages. In the first stage one storey, damaged by plane impact and fire, suddenly collapses. This allows the section of the tower above to fall freely down and hit the lower section. In the second stage the energy of this impact is said to be sufficient to cause the top of the lower section to disintegrate. This material adds to the falling mass and further impacts cause disintegration to continue in a rapid sequence all the way to the ground.6 Let us consider the situation just prior to the first stage. There are some damaged columns, some fire, and a claimed ack of fireproofing. Given the substantial safety factor in the building design, the number of damaged columns is far too few to put the buildings at risk without the fire. This is elaborated on in the NIST report and elsewhere.1, 7 We will ignore the fact that according to the physical evidence data within the body of the NIST report, and contrary to its conclusion, the steel did not get very hot. We will assume the strongest case for the official theory: the fire was uniform over the whole area and very hot. The fire has to heat the steel, which takes time. Eventually the steel gets hot enough that it cannot carry the load in the initiating storey. It starts to sag. At this point there has been no disruption of the columns, other than that caused by the plane impact, hence most of the columns are still attached to the floors above and below and are continuous, passing up and down into other storeys, giving the columns rigidity. The length of the columns between attachments is too short for buckling to occur. 8 Failure must therefore be by compression. As the steel sags two things will happen: the columns, as they shorten, will become wider, which is obvious; and the inherent strength of the steel will increase, which is not obvious. It is well established however that the yield strength of steel increases as the degree of distortion increases. This tendency increases with rising temperature and is pronounced at the temperatures required for collapse, as can be seen in the graph below. 9 For both of these reasons the initial sag cannot be catastrophic but will be very slow and the rate will depend on the rate of heat input. A rising temperature will be needed to offset both the significant increase in yield strength and the slight increase in cross-section area, if collapse is to progress. It is clear therefore that the upper section should only have moved down slowly and only continued to do so if additional heat was supplied. A slow, protracted, and sagging collapse was not observed however with either tower. As observed in videos of both tower collapses, the upper sections suddenly start to fall and disintegrate.10 In the case of the south tower, initially a lean of the upper section developed but within the first second this turned into a rapid collapse with upper section disintegration, just as was observed with the north tower. It appears therefore that the official concept of a free fall collapse of the upper portion through the initiation storey, due to heat effects from fire, is a fantasy. If the temperature did become high enough for collapse to occur it could not have happened in the observed manner. 9 In particular it could not have been sudden and thus could not have produced the velocity, and hence the momentum and kinetic energy, upon which the official story depends for the second stage of collapse. In contrast, all observations are in accord with the use of explosives in a timed sequence. The case that the NIST report must be corrected is confirmed. If this report is not corrected the suspicion will remain that its purpose was not so much to inform as to deceive. -- They must find it difficult - those who have taken authority as the Truth, rather than Truth as the authority. - G. Massey http://911research.wtc7.net http://stj911.org http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html http://www.911truth.org Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging infernos for hours on end. http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled demolition. http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html http://911research.wtc7.net http://stj911.org http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html http://www.911truth.org Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq? http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm http://www.commondreams.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... "The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony, consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens, losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance." - Manuel Valenzuela |
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Could Key West be a bike model for America?
BrianNZ wrote:
Henry wrote: Now I have a question for you. Here's what the experts say about WTC7. Do you dispute any of it? If so, what and why, exactly? http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/0...-of-wtc-7.html I am talking about the Twin Towers here.....only the Twin Towers......don't go off on the WTC7 tangent again. I answered your questions. Why are you unwilling to discuss WTC7's obvious demolition? -- They must find it difficult - those who have taken authority as the Truth, rather than Truth as the authority. - G. Massey http://911research.wtc7.net http://stj911.org http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html http://www.911truth.org Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging infernos for hours on end. http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled demolition. http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html http://911research.wtc7.net http://stj911.org http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html http://www.911truth.org Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq? http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm http://www.commondreams.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... "The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony, consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens, losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance." - Manuel Valenzuela |
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Could Key West be a bike model for America?
"Henry" wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: What did Edward Dolan write? Like most Bush parroting cartoon conspiracy kooks, Ed wrote some kook drivel, and failed miserably to answer challenges to his comical kook rants. chuckle Either quote me properly or go to hell , you god damn miserable wretch! [...] ****ing Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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OT - Iraqi Yellow Cake
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Tom Sherman writes: "Had" as in yesterday or "had" as in 20 years ago? There is no doubt Saddam once had WMDs - he used them on Iranians and Kurds. But he was required to get rid of them all after the first Gulf War and there is no evidence he failed to comply. None have turned up despite careful searching. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...yellowcake.htm Well, sheesh, pre 1991 purchased yellow cake does not constitute an active nuclear weapons program except for the brainwashed such as Sorni. Doesn't Betty Crocker sell a yellow cake mix? It's especially good with vanilla icing on the top, a mid-layer of marmalade (keeps it citrous,) and a big, steaming globule of Birds[tm] custard on top of each slice. Almost as good as a slab of Black Forest cake drizzled with Kirsch and overburdened with a righteous scoop of cherry chip ice cream (praline & cream wil do in a pinch.) Maybe I'm thinking of Duncan Hines. At any rate, I guess either or both of 'em are in big trouble if they'd been selling yellow cake mix to Iraq. Ben & Jerry had better mind their Ps&Qs too. The Black Forest cake and Kirsch producing Germans are dealing with the Taliban in Afghanistan, so they're above reproach. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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