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Old June 6th 12, 07:48 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster[_2_]
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:11:56 +0100, jnugent
wrote:

On 06/06/2012 00:11, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
On 05/06/2012 22:10, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:40:19 +0100,
wrote:



"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:36:24 +0100,
wrote:



"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:52:16 +0300, davethedave
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:58 +0100, jnugent wrote:

Does a hosepipe ban prevent one from washing a car using a bucket
(just
like you'd have to with water from a water butt)?

What is banned? Clean cars or hosepipes?

The use of hosepipes domestically. You can quite happily take it to
a man
who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it.

Is the wrong answer.

Care to explain why?
Unless the BBC have got it all wrong, of course:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17615364

Do keep up!

The ban is not a blanket ban on the use of hosepipes. The example I
gave earlier was of the domestic use of a hosepipe attached to a water
butt.

So how did that make the previous poster's comment on taking your car
to a
car wash wrong?

You can take your car to a car wash. However, the assertion was made
that "The use of hosepipes domestically" are banned.


Wriggling like the worm you are again Cwispin.

Mr Nugent stated;
"You can quite happily take it to a man who runs a car washing business
and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".

You replied;
"Is the wrong answer".

You ****ed up again pure & simple and now you are wriggling.


Actually, it was not I who wrote: "You can quite happily take it to a
man who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".

I only asked what advantage there in drawing a bucket of water from a
butt as opposed to drawing it from the garden tap (or even from the
kitchen mixer taps, hotter than body temperature). Neither seems to be
illegal unless there is a ban on washing cars (which there isn't).


Assuming the bucket is 10L, and you are on a water meter, one
advantage is 1.2263 pence for the water and another 0.6473 pence for
sewerage. Clare also reckons rainwater (even from a butt) is better
for plants than treated water.
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  #312  
Old June 6th 12, 08:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Dave - Cyclists VOR
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On 06/06/2012 01:10, Partac wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:40:19 +0100, "Partac"
wrote:



"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:36:24 +0100, "Partac"
wrote:



"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:52:16 +0300, davethedave
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:58 +0100, jnugent wrote:

Does a hosepipe ban prevent one from washing a car using a bucket
(just
like you'd have to with water from a water butt)?

What is banned? Clean cars or hosepipes?

The use of hosepipes domestically. You can quite happily take it to
a man
who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it.

Is the wrong answer.

Care to explain why?
Unless the BBC have got it all wrong, of course:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17615364


Do keep up!

The ban is not a blanket ban on the use of hosepipes. The example I
gave earlier was of the domestic use of a hosepipe attached to a water
butt.

So how did that make the previous poster's comment on taking your car
to a
car wash wrong?


You can take your car to a car wash. However, the assertion was made
that "The use of hosepipes domestically" are banned.

No, you're not wriggling that easily.


Oh but he does. Wriggling is second nature to Cwispin.

You condemned the previous
poster's comment "the wrong answer", without any explanation or
clarification as to why it was wrong, and thus leading those who didn't
have prior knowledge of your almost legendary inaccuracies to believe
the whole comment was wrong.


"almost legendary inaccuracies". Nail, hit, head.


F*** me, if teaching standards are really this low, no wonder the
general opinion of education standards today is that it is at rock bottom.


It does make you wonder, especially when you look at his inability to
spell simple words correctly.

Are you sure you're really a teacher?


I'm not at all sure.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University
  #313  
Old June 6th 12, 09:46 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Ian Smith
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2012, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:

I spotted the big mistake when you fist showed us the 'brieze' blocks.


recap:

Someone didn't know the etymology of breeze block, and also spelled it
wrongly. Dave thinks this proves they are a cretin, and is going to
bang on about spelling it wrongly for months. Of course, Dave's
spelling is exemplary, and he never makes any errors, presumably
because before posting he always reads through his text, err, fist.

  #314  
Old June 6th 12, 12:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
thirty-six
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On Jun 6, 2:11*am, jnugent wrote:
On 06/06/2012 00:11, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:









On 05/06/2012 22:10, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:40:19 +0100,
wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:36:24 +0100,
wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
m...


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:52:16 +0300, davethedave
wrote:


On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:58 +0100, jnugent wrote:


Does a hosepipe ban prevent one from washing a car using a bucket
(just
like you'd have to with water from a water butt)?


What is banned? Clean cars or hosepipes?


The use of hosepipes domestically. You can quite happily take it to
a man
who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it..


Is the wrong answer.


Care to explain why?
Unless the BBC have got it all wrong, of course:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17615364


Do keep up!


The ban is not a blanket ban on the use of hosepipes. The example I
gave earlier was of the domestic use of a hosepipe attached to a water
butt.


So how did that make the previous poster's comment on taking your car
to a
car wash wrong?


You can take your car to a car wash. However, the assertion was made
that "The use of hosepipes domestically" are banned.


Wriggling like the worm you are again Cwispin.


Mr Nugent stated;
"You can quite happily take it to a man who runs a car washing business
and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".


You replied;
"Is the wrong answer".


You ****ed up again pure & simple and now you are wriggling.


Actually, it was not I who wrote: "You can quite happily take it to a
man who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".

I only asked what advantage there in drawing a bucket of water from a
butt as opposed to drawing it from the garden tap (or even from the
kitchen mixer taps, hotter than body temperature). Neither seems to be
illegal unless there is a ban on washing cars (which there isn't).


If you have a hard water supply it will tend to streak unless treated
in some manner. Rainwater can be used straight with real soap and
chammied (sp?) off without streaking or much effort. A little
ammonia in the rinse water will helpwith removing the soap.
  #315  
Old June 6th 12, 12:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
thirty-six
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On Jun 6, 7:48*am, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:11:56 +0100, jnugent
wrote:









On 06/06/2012 00:11, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
On 05/06/2012 22:10, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:40:19 +0100,
wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
m...


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:36:24 +0100,
wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
om...


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:52:16 +0300, davethedave
wrote:


On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:58 +0100, jnugent wrote:


Does a hosepipe ban prevent one from washing a car using a bucket
(just
like you'd have to with water from a water butt)?


What is banned? Clean cars or hosepipes?


The use of hosepipes domestically. You can quite happily take it to
a man
who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it.

  #316  
Old June 6th 12, 12:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 06/06/2012 07:48, Bertie Wooster wrote:

wrote:


[ ... ]

I only asked what advantage there in drawing a bucket of water from a
butt as opposed to drawing it from the garden tap (or even from the
kitchen mixer taps, hotter than body temperature). Neither seems to be
illegal unless there is a ban on washing cars (which there isn't).


Assuming the bucket is 10L, and you are on a water meter, one
advantage is 1.2263 pence for the water and another 0.6473 pence for
sewerage. Clare also reckons rainwater (even from a butt) is better
for plants than treated water.


For those (such as I, and, I fancy, the majority), who do not have a
water meter, that would be of no particular advantage. And for those
stuck with meters, the cost-saving is small. It isn't at all clear what
the price of sewerage has to do with it.

Convenient "opinion" on the efficacy of rainwater aside, there isn't
even an advantage when there is a hosepipe ban in force, since water can
be decanted into buckets and used for various jobs anyway.
  #317  
Old June 6th 12, 12:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Posts: 11,574
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On 06/06/2012 12:29, thirty-six wrote:
On Jun 6, 2:11 am, wrote:
On 06/06/2012 00:11, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:









On 05/06/2012 22:10, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:40:19 +0100,
wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:36:24 +0100,
wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:52:16 +0300, davethedave
wrote:


On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:58 +0100, jnugent wrote:


Does a hosepipe ban prevent one from washing a car using a bucket
(just
like you'd have to with water from a water butt)?


What is banned? Clean cars or hosepipes?


The use of hosepipes domestically. You can quite happily take it to
a man
who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it.


Is the wrong answer.


Care to explain why?
Unless the BBC have got it all wrong, of course:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17615364


Do keep up!


The ban is not a blanket ban on the use of hosepipes. The example I
gave earlier was of the domestic use of a hosepipe attached to a water
butt.


So how did that make the previous poster's comment on taking your car
to a
car wash wrong?


You can take your car to a car wash. However, the assertion was made
that "The use of hosepipes domestically" are banned.


Wriggling like the worm you are again Cwispin.


Mr Nugent stated;
"You can quite happily take it to a man who runs a car washing business
and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".


You replied;
"Is the wrong answer".


You ****ed up again pure& simple and now you are wriggling.


Actually, it was not I who wrote: "You can quite happily take it to a
man who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".

I only asked what advantage there in drawing a bucket of water from a
butt as opposed to drawing it from the garden tap (or even from the
kitchen mixer taps, hotter than body temperature). Neither seems to be
illegal unless there is a ban on washing cars (which there isn't).


If you have a hard water supply it will tend to streak unless treated
in some manner. Rainwater can be used straight with real soap and
chammied (sp?) off without streaking or much effort. A little
ammonia in the rinse water will helpwith removing the soap.


So nothing to do with hosepipe bans, then?

  #318  
Old June 6th 12, 12:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 06/06/2012 12:32, thirty-six wrote:
On Jun 6, 7:48 am, Bertie wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:11:56 +0100,
wrote:









On 06/06/2012 00:11, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
On 05/06/2012 22:10, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:40:19 +0100,
wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:36:24 +0100,
wrote:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:52:16 +0300, davethedave
wrote:


On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:58 +0100, jnugent wrote:


Does a hosepipe ban prevent one from washing a car using a bucket
(just
like you'd have to with water from a water butt)?


What is banned? Clean cars or hosepipes?


The use of hosepipes domestically. You can quite happily take it to
a man
who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it.


Is the wrong answer.


Care to explain why?
Unless the BBC have got it all wrong, of course:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17615364


Do keep up!


The ban is not a blanket ban on the use of hosepipes. The example I
gave earlier was of the domestic use of a hosepipe attached to a water
butt.


So how did that make the previous poster's comment on taking your car
to a
car wash wrong?


You can take your car to a car wash. However, the assertion was made
that "The use of hosepipes domestically" are banned.


Wriggling like the worm you are again Cwispin.


Mr Nugent stated;
"You can quite happily take it to a man who runs a car washing business
and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".


You replied;
"Is the wrong answer".


You ****ed up again pure& simple and now you are wriggling.


Actually, it was not I who wrote: "You can quite happily take it to a
man who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".


I only asked what advantage there in drawing a bucket of water from a
butt as opposed to drawing it from the garden tap (or even from the
kitchen mixer taps, hotter than body temperature). Neither seems to be
illegal unless there is a ban on washing cars (which there isn't).


Assuming the bucket is 10L, and you are on a water meter, one
advantage is 1.2263 pence for the water and another 0.6473 pence for
sewerage. Clare also reckons rainwater (even from a butt) is better
for plants than treated water.


Grow some lettuce on rainwater then water with tap water and watch it
wilt. When it eventually picks up, do a taste comparison. It might
help you decide what to stuff down your throat in future.


What's the connection with hosepipe bans?

  #319  
Old June 6th 12, 01:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster[_2_]
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:47:33 +0100, jnugent
wrote:

On 06/06/2012 12:32, thirty-six wrote:
On Jun 6, 7:48 am, Bertie wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:11:56 +0100,
wrote:









On 06/06/2012 00:11, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
On 05/06/2012 22:10, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:40:19 +0100,
wrote:

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:36:24 +0100,
wrote:

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:52:16 +0300, davethedave
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:58 +0100, jnugent wrote:

Does a hosepipe ban prevent one from washing a car using a bucket
(just
like you'd have to with water from a water butt)?

What is banned? Clean cars or hosepipes?

The use of hosepipes domestically. You can quite happily take it to
a man
who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it.

Is the wrong answer.

Care to explain why?
Unless the BBC have got it all wrong, of course:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17615364

Do keep up!

The ban is not a blanket ban on the use of hosepipes. The example I
gave earlier was of the domestic use of a hosepipe attached to a water
butt.

So how did that make the previous poster's comment on taking your car
to a
car wash wrong?

You can take your car to a car wash. However, the assertion was made
that "The use of hosepipes domestically" are banned.

Wriggling like the worm you are again Cwispin.

Mr Nugent stated;
"You can quite happily take it to a man who runs a car washing business
and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".

You replied;
"Is the wrong answer".

You ****ed up again pure& simple and now you are wriggling.

Actually, it was not I who wrote: "You can quite happily take it to a
man who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".

I only asked what advantage there in drawing a bucket of water from a
butt as opposed to drawing it from the garden tap (or even from the
kitchen mixer taps, hotter than body temperature). Neither seems to be
illegal unless there is a ban on washing cars (which there isn't).

Assuming the bucket is 10L, and you are on a water meter, one
advantage is 1.2263 pence for the water and another 0.6473 pence for
sewerage. Clare also reckons rainwater (even from a butt) is better
for plants than treated water.


Grow some lettuce on rainwater then water with tap water and watch it
wilt. When it eventually picks up, do a taste comparison. It might
help you decide what to stuff down your throat in future.


What's the connection with hosepipe bans?


A hosepipe connected to the mains can water lettuce with treated
water; a hosepipe connected to a water butt can water lettuce with
rainwater. But with the hosepipe ban in place you are not allowed to
water lettuce with a hosepipe connected to mains water.
  #320  
Old June 6th 12, 01:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster[_2_]
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:44:04 +0100, jnugent
wrote:

On 06/06/2012 07:48, Bertie Wooster wrote:

wrote:


[ ... ]

I only asked what advantage there in drawing a bucket of water from a
butt as opposed to drawing it from the garden tap (or even from the
kitchen mixer taps, hotter than body temperature). Neither seems to be
illegal unless there is a ban on washing cars (which there isn't).


Assuming the bucket is 10L, and you are on a water meter, one
advantage is 1.2263 pence for the water and another 0.6473 pence for
sewerage. Clare also reckons rainwater (even from a butt) is better
for plants than treated water.


For those (such as I, and, I fancy, the majority), who do not have a
water meter, that would be of no particular advantage. And for those
stuck with meters, the cost-saving is small. It isn't at all clear what
the price of sewerage has to do with it.


On my last bill I was charged for 80 cubic metres of water and 80
cubic metres of wastewater. Wastewater is not metered, but is
calculated to be the same as water. Using a hosepipe in the garden
produces little wastewater into the drains, but it is still charged.

And if you want to compare costs, the two of us pay about 77p a day
for water and wastewater. Unmetered the cost would be 83p per day,
plus a charge depending on the size of pipe feeding our home and
removing waste, probably taking the cost to about £1.10 per day.

Convenient "opinion" on the efficacy of rainwater aside, there isn't
even an advantage when there is a hosepipe ban in force, since water can
be decanted into buckets and used for various jobs anyway.

 




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