What American Cities are Missing: Bikes by the Thousands

Sancho Panza wrote:
Nope. I'm going to contribute it to Hillary Clinton's campaign funds. After
all, she invented the whole legal justification for the Wal-Mart system.

Crikey , I never suspected you were *that* much of a Republican. :-D

Joe the Aroma wrote:
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As Calcutta outlaws pedicabs, they are now fashionable with the New
Urbanist crowd. You can take home some stuff on one, if you agree to
walk next to it. That ought to please those who want to go back in
time.

Pedicabs are popular enough in New York that the city council has
enacted regulations for them.

http://www.newsday.com/search/sns-ap...,2759553.story

--
John Mara

Yes, just as the third world is getting rid of such exploitation of
workers, NYC is starting up with its hazy visions of great the past used
to be.


"exploitation of workers"? Ridiculous! It's called capitalism and it's
not exploitative. I sometimes agree with you but your wrong this time.
George only likes market forces when they encourage things he likes
anyway...

Well doesn't everyone? That's the purpose of market forces... to encourage
"things you like".

Amy's characterization of George is hilariously apt. He's posted
endorsing wealth redistribution away from cities. The justification?
They apparently steal from the hinterlands. Somehow.

george conklin wrote:
wrote in message
.net...
In article k.net,
says...

In the third world they view the entire industry as exploiting. We
should
be ashamed of ourselves bringing the pedicab back. It shows how morally
bankrupt the New Urbanism is.
Do you consider all manual labor morally inferior

Pedicabs are not manual labor. It is considered to be abusive labor.

So if I go buy a pedicab and charge willing riders to be driven around
in it, I'm abusing myself?

"Bolwerk" wrote in message
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george conklin wrote:

As Calcutta outlaws pedicabs, they are now fashionable with the
New
Urbanist crowd. You can take home some stuff on one, if you agree
to
walk next to it. That ought to please those who want to go back in
time.

Pedicabs are popular enough in New York that the city council has
enacted regulations for them.

http://www.newsday.com/search/sns-ap...,2759553.story

--
John Mara

Yes, just as the third world is getting rid of such exploitation of
workers, NYC is starting up with its hazy visions of great the past
used
to be.


"exploitation of workers"? Ridiculous! It's called capitalism and it's
not exploitative. I sometimes agree with you but your wrong this time.
George only likes market forces when they encourage things he likes
anyway...

Well doesn't everyone? That's the purpose of market forces... to
encourage
"things you like".

Amy's characterization of George is hilariously apt. He's posted
endorsing wealth redistribution away from cities. The justification?
They apparently steal from the hinterlands. Somehow.

Poverty today is concentrated in rural areas. Cities have driven the price
of food down, down, down.
I suggest you understand the demography of poverty these days, which you
obviously do not.

Here is an article by the President of the Southern Sociological Society:

http://www.ncsociology.org/sociationtoday/v42/wim.htm

Read it and stop blessing your own stupidity.

"Bolwerk" wrote in message
...
george conklin wrote:
wrote in message
.net...
In article k.net,
says...

In the third world they view the entire industry as exploiting. We
should
be ashamed of ourselves bringing the pedicab back. It shows how
morally
bankrupt the New Urbanism is.
Do you consider all manual labor morally inferior

Pedicabs are not manual labor. It is considered to be abusive
labor.

So if I go buy a pedicab and charge willing riders to be driven around
in it, I'm abusing myself?

You are abusing the driver. But then you are an expert at self-abuse too.

"George Conklin" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bolwerk" wrote in message
...
....
"exploitation of workers"? Ridiculous! It's called capitalism and
it's
not exploitative. I sometimes agree with you but your wrong this
time.
George only likes market forces when they encourage things he likes
anyway...

Well doesn't everyone? That's the purpose of market forces... to
encourage
"things you like".

Amy's characterization of George is hilariously apt. He's posted
endorsing wealth redistribution away from cities. The justification?
They apparently steal from the hinterlands. Somehow.

Poverty today is concentrated in rural areas. Cities have driven the
price
of food down, down, down.
I suggest you understand the demography of poverty these days, which you
obviously do not.

The US government and chains like Wal-Mart drive the food prices down.

Here is an article by the President of the Southern Sociological Society:

http://www.ncsociology.org/sociationtoday/v42/wim.htm

Read it and stop blessing your own stupidity.

I think it's really funny that the implications of the paper are that people
should do the very things you're against--that cities should become more
sustainable by encouraging urban farming, that people should buy local and
pay the true price of things rather than an artificially low price caused by
subsidies and other policies.

"Amy Blankenship" wrote in message
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"George Conklin" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bolwerk" wrote in message
...
...
"exploitation of workers"? Ridiculous! It's called capitalism and
it's
not exploitative. I sometimes agree with you but your wrong this
time.
George only likes market forces when they encourage things he likes
anyway...

Well doesn't everyone? That's the purpose of market forces... to
encourage
"things you like".

Amy's characterization of George is hilariously apt. He's posted
endorsing wealth redistribution away from cities. The justification?
They apparently steal from the hinterlands. Somehow.

Poverty today is concentrated in rural areas. Cities have driven the
price
of food down, down, down.
I suggest you understand the demography of poverty these days, which you
obviously do not.

The US government and chains like Wal-Mart drive the food prices down.


The price paid to the farmer is down in all nations, and they don't have
Wal-Mart to blame. Cities are the problem. Politicians are afraid of urban
riots in the third world, and as a result poverty ends up being in rural
areas.


Here is an article by the President of the Southern Sociological
Society:

http://www.ncsociology.org/sociationtoday/v42/wim.htm

Read it and stop blessing your own stupidity.

I think it's really funny that the implications of the paper are that
people
should do the very things you're against--that cities should become more
sustainable by encouraging urban farming, that people should buy local and
pay the true price of things rather than an artificially low price caused
by
subsidies and other policies.


Wimberley is not in favor of urban gardens and the other such silly
proposals.

George Conklin wrote:
"Bolwerk" wrote in message
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Joe the Aroma wrote:
"Amy Blankenship" wrote in message
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"Anymouse" none wrote in message
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"george conklin" wrote in message
news "John Mara" wrote in message
...
george conklin wrote:

As Calcutta outlaws pedicabs, they are now fashionable with the
New
Urbanist crowd. You can take home some stuff on one, if you agree
to
walk next to it. That ought to please those who want to go back in
time.
Pedicabs are popular enough in New York that the city council has
enacted regulations for them.

http://www.newsday.com/search/sns-ap...,2759553.story

--
John Mara

Yes, just as the third world is getting rid of such exploitation of
workers, NYC is starting up with its hazy visions of great the past
used
to be.


"exploitation of workers"? Ridiculous! It's called capitalism and it's
not exploitative. I sometimes agree with you but your wrong this time.
George only likes market forces when they encourage things he likes
anyway...
Well doesn't everyone? That's the purpose of market forces... to
encourage
"things you like".
Amy's characterization of George is hilariously apt. He's posted
endorsing wealth redistribution away from cities. The justification?
They apparently steal from the hinterlands. Somehow.

Poverty today is concentrated in rural areas. Cities have driven the price
of food down, down, down.

In the U.S., places like Compton don't have poverty? Detroit? The Bronx?

I suggest you understand the demography of poverty these days, which you
obviously do not.

Here is an article by the President of the Southern Sociological Society:

http://www.ncsociology.org/sociationtoday/v42/wim.htm

Read it and stop blessing your own stupidity.

I don't see any reason to open that URL. Even if "poverty today is
concentrated in rural areas," you have to do better than call me stupid
if you want to find a way to blame it on cities.

On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:18:36 -0400, in misc.transport.urban-transit
Bolwerk wrote in
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George Conklin wrote:
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"Amy Blankenship" wrote in message
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"Anymouse" none wrote in message
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"george conklin" wrote in message
news "John Mara" wrote in message
...
george conklin wrote:

As Calcutta outlaws pedicabs, they are now fashionable with the
New
Urbanist crowd. You can take home some stuff on one, if you agree
to
walk next to it. That ought to please those who want to go back in
time.
Pedicabs are popular enough in New York that the city council has
enacted regulations for them.

http://www.newsday.com/search/sns-ap...,2759553.story

--
John Mara

Yes, just as the third world is getting rid of such exploitation of
workers, NYC is starting up with its hazy visions of great the past
used
to be.


"exploitation of workers"? Ridiculous! It's called capitalism and it's
not exploitative. I sometimes agree with you but your wrong this time.
George only likes market forces when they encourage things he likes
anyway...
Well doesn't everyone? That's the purpose of market forces... to
encourage
"things you like".
Amy's characterization of George is hilariously apt. He's posted
endorsing wealth redistribution away from cities. The justification?
They apparently steal from the hinterlands. Somehow.

Poverty today is concentrated in rural areas. Cities have driven the price
of food down, down, down.

In the U.S., places like Compton don't have poverty? Detroit? The Bronx?

George has hobbyhorses, he rides them wherever he can.

I suggest you understand the demography of poverty these days, which you
obviously do not.

Here is an article by the President of the Southern Sociological Society:

http://www.ncsociology.org/sociationtoday/v42/wim.htm

Read it and stop blessing your own stupidity.

I don't see any reason to open that URL. Even if "poverty today is
concentrated in rural areas," you have to do better than call me stupid
if you want to find a way to blame it on cities.

"Bolwerk" wrote in message
...
George Conklin wrote:
"Bolwerk" wrote in message
...
Joe the Aroma wrote:
"Amy Blankenship" wrote in message
...
"Anymouse" none wrote in message
...
"george conklin" wrote in message
news "John Mara" wrote in message
...
george conklin wrote:

As Calcutta outlaws pedicabs, they are now fashionable with the
New
Urbanist crowd. You can take home some stuff on one, if you
agree
to
walk next to it. That ought to please those who want to go back
in
time.
Pedicabs are popular enough in New York that the city council has
enacted regulations for them.


http://www.newsday.com/search/sns-ap...,2759553.story

--
John Mara

Yes, just as the third world is getting rid of such exploitation
of
workers, NYC is starting up with its hazy visions of great the past
used
to be.


"exploitation of workers"? Ridiculous! It's called capitalism and
it's
not exploitative. I sometimes agree with you but your wrong this
time.
George only likes market forces when they encourage things he likes
anyway...
Well doesn't everyone? That's the purpose of market forces... to
encourage
"things you like".
Amy's characterization of George is hilariously apt. He's posted
endorsing wealth redistribution away from cities. The justification?
They apparently steal from the hinterlands. Somehow.

Poverty today is concentrated in rural areas. Cities have driven the
price
of food down, down, down.

In the U.S., places like Compton don't have poverty? Detroit? The Bronx?

I suggest you understand the demography of poverty these days, which you
obviously do not.

Here is an article by the President of the Southern Sociological
Society:

http://www.ncsociology.org/sociationtoday/v42/wim.htm

Read it and stop blessing your own stupidity.

I don't see any reason to open that URL.

Naturally. You bask in ignorance and stupidity.