Helmets Work!

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:27:29 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 8/10/2013 11:28 AM, T0m $herman wrote:
On 8/10/2013 11:24 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Everyone hates some ethnic group by default. There are
very few
cultures on the planet that didn't have a traditional
enemy, usually
the neighboring tribes.

And some hate *all* other groups, and consider them less
than human.


Because, per George Wigg, "The wogs begin at Calais".

Actually he was asserting that Winston Churchill believed that "Wogs
begin at Calais" :-)

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Cheers,

John B.

On Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:54:30 PM UTC-4, T0m $herman wrote:
On 8/10/2013 12:01 PM, Gus wrote:

"Ian Field" wrote in message

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I find mirrors more of a hinderance on a bicycle - if I went deaf, now

that would be a problem!





I agree. I've tried to use various mirrors but they all end up giving me

a headache and distracting me from paying attention and/or enjoying the

ride. I go by hearing quite a bit. I didn't realize just how much till

I had a Prius sneak up on me a couple times.



On my 'bents, the mirrors are pretty much in the same place as they

would be on a motorcycle/scooter or automobile. Helmet/eyeglass mounted

mirrors are vastly inferior to handlebar end mirrors, since they lack a

fixed reference, making it nearly impossible to tell the angle of what

you are seeing.



What is weird is riding a moto at the track, where they make you remove

or tape over your mirrors.



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T0m $herm@n

I use a helmet mounted mirror and find it vastly superior to any handlebar mounted mirror I ever tried. The helmet mirror gives me a real world image (no distortion by wideangle) that let's me know exactly where something is. I can see an overtaking vehicle sooner because it's not made smaller like the wideangle bar mounted mirrors do. I can scan behind me in a turn simply by moving my head a bit.

I also don't have a big blindspot when looking ahead.

Cheers

Dan writes:

Wes Groleau writes:

On 08-09-2013 22:02, Gus wrote:
In fact, every time I hear Judge Judy (of TV fame) say, "I know you are
lying," I cringe (unlike us she is covered by judicial privilege in
saying what she wishes, the rest of us would be sued for slander).


I *love* The People's Court and all the judges.

She isn't covered by judicial privilege, she is covered by the
contracts the people have to sign to be on the show. It's hard for me
to imagine a real judge talking like she does. (The I did once hear
one follow a sentence (not capital) with "And I hope you burn in
hell."


It doesn't matter, either. There's nothing magic about a "real"
judge - or a King or congressman or president for that matter.
We just hope for a "reasonable person".

(Now... hey! This isn't that same thread about "reason", is it?
:-)

I'm surprised the defense didn't appeal, using that as evidence the
judge was not impartial.


I saw a great one the other day - It was one of those landlord -
tenant deals, and the judge *slammed* the landlords with *treble
damages* - not even asked for by the tenant - (cleaned the ass-
holes of their cut of the "fund"). Woo-hoo! Go, judge, go!

Journalist: "Wasn't Billy Jack's main belief that a man who
doesn't go his own way is nothing?"

Jean: "That's right. That's why they tried Billy. But we
all knew what they were really trying was each man's right
to find his own center, to follow his own conscience and to
do his own thing, without hurting or interfering with anybody
else's."

"John B." wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:27:29 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 8/10/2013 11:28 AM, T0m $herman wrote:
On 8/10/2013 11:24 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Everyone hates some ethnic group by default. There are
very few
cultures on the planet that didn't have a traditional
enemy, usually
the neighboring tribes.

And some hate *all* other groups, and consider them less
than human.


Because, per George Wigg, "The wogs begin at Calais".

Actually he was asserting that Winston Churchill believed that "Wogs
begin at Calais" :-)

--
Cheers,

John B.


Is it true Churchill was blitzed most the time, even when German planes
were not flying over Britain?

"T0m $herman" wrote in message
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On 8/10/2013 12:01 PM, Gus wrote:
"Ian Field" wrote in message
...

I find mirrors more of a hinderance on a bicycle - if I went deaf,
now
that would be a problem!


I agree. I've tried to use various mirrors but they all end up giving
me
a headache and distracting me from paying attention and/or enjoying
the
ride. I go by hearing quite a bit. I didn't realize just how much
till
I had a Prius sneak up on me a couple times.

On my 'bents, the mirrors are pretty much in the same place as they
would be on a motorcycle/scooter or automobile. Helmet/eyeglass
mounted mirrors are vastly inferior to handlebar end mirrors, since
they lack a fixed reference, making it nearly impossible to tell the
angle of what you are seeing.

What is weird is riding a moto at the track, where they make you
remove or tape over your mirrors.

--

The least hated mirror was mounted on the handlebars, but it still
vibrated at times and that gives me a headache. Also, it seemed to have
a habit of bumping into thing and would have to keep adjusting it.

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:15:57 -0400, "Gus"
wrote:

"T0m $herman" wrote in message
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On 8/9/2013 6:34 AM, Gus wrote:
"T0m $herman" wrote in message
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You are a fool if you believe the propaganda pumped out by the
controlled mass media.

Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor, principle of parsimony, or Rube
Goldberg?

Have you no idea of history - or do you believe that the mass media
and government in the contemporary US is somehow special. Do you
trust someone who is a proven liar - that indeed is the height of
foolishness.

--


How do you decide a credible source?

I have been present for a number of events that were reported by the
international media and frankly, the quality of the reporting was
nearly without exception incredibly bad. In some cases nearly to the
point of being outright lies, or perhaps being a bit more polite,
total ignorance.

But having said that to provide in depth reporting would require not
only a reporter fully versed in the country and its language, customs
and history, but an audience that was equally as familiar. If the
reports would be read by individuals who were unfamiliar with the
country it might take reams and reams of report to actually present a
comprehensive picture of who, what, when, where and why.
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Cheers,

John B.

On 8/11/2013 12:20 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:54:30 PM UTC-4, T0m $herman wrote:
On 8/10/2013 12:01 PM, Gus wrote:

"Ian Field" wrote in message

...



I find mirrors more of a hinderance on a bicycle - if I went deaf, now

that would be a problem!





I agree. I've tried to use various mirrors but they all end up giving me

a headache and distracting me from paying attention and/or enjoying the

ride. I go by hearing quite a bit. I didn't realize just how much till

I had a Prius sneak up on me a couple times.



On my 'bents, the mirrors are pretty much in the same place as they

would be on a motorcycle/scooter or automobile. Helmet/eyeglass mounted

mirrors are vastly inferior to handlebar end mirrors, since they lack a

fixed reference, making it nearly impossible to tell the angle of what

you are seeing.



What is weird is riding a moto at the track, where they make you remove

or tape over your mirrors.



--

T0m $herm@n

I use a helmet mounted mirror and find it vastly superior to any handlebar mounted mirror I ever tried. The helmet mirror gives me a real world image (no distortion by wideangle) that let's me know exactly where something is. I can see an overtaking vehicle sooner because it's not made smaller like the wideangle bar mounted mirrors do. I can scan behind me in a turn simply by moving my head a bit.

I also don't have a big blindspot when looking ahead.

Cheers

But if you are limited for some reason in doing shoulder checks, relying
on a lid mounted mirror for making lane changes could get you killed
when you think the fast approaching vehicle is two lanes over when it is
only one lane over.

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T0m $herm@n

On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 07:03:37 -0400, Gus wrote:

Is it true Churchill was blitzed most the time, even when German planes
were not flying over Britain?

Probably not blitzed but he drank a lot.

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/lear...alcohol-abuser



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davethedave

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"T0m $herman" wrote:

On 8/11/2013 12:20 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:54:30 PM UTC-4, T0m $herman wrote:
On 8/10/2013 12:01 PM, Gus wrote:

"Ian Field" wrote in message

...



I find mirrors more of a hinderance on a bicycle - if I went deaf, now

that would be a problem!





I agree. I've tried to use various mirrors but they all end up giving me

a headache and distracting me from paying attention and/or enjoying the

ride. I go by hearing quite a bit. I didn't realize just how much till

I had a Prius sneak up on me a couple times.



On my 'bents, the mirrors are pretty much in the same place as they

would be on a motorcycle/scooter or automobile. Helmet/eyeglass mounted

mirrors are vastly inferior to handlebar end mirrors, since they lack a

fixed reference, making it nearly impossible to tell the angle of what

you are seeing.



What is weird is riding a moto at the track, where they make you remove

or tape over your mirrors.



--

T0m $herm@n

I use a helmet mounted mirror and find it vastly superior to any handlebar
mounted mirror I ever tried. The helmet mirror gives me a real world image
(no distortion by wideangle) that let's me know exactly where something is.
I can see an overtaking vehicle sooner because it's not made smaller like
the wideangle bar mounted mirrors do. I can scan behind me in a turn simply
by moving my head a bit.

I also don't have a big blindspot when looking ahead.

Cheers

But if you are limited for some reason in doing shoulder checks, relying
on a lid mounted mirror for making lane changes could get you killed
when you think the fast approaching vehicle is two lanes over when it is
only one lane over.

Hypothetical problem, and equally applicable to handlebar-mounted
mirrors in any case. I like my glasses-mounted mirror, and I don't like
handlebar-mounted mirrors. You feel conversely, and make up stories to
justify your feeling. Why bother?

On 8/11/2013 4:05 AM, Gus wrote:

The least hated mirror was mounted on the handlebars, but it still
vibrated at times and that gives me a headache. Also, it seemed to have
a habit of bumping into thing and would have to keep adjusting it.

I've found the best mirror to be this one:
http://www.mirrycle.com/original_mirror.php

I haven't tried their other models, but I'd expect they'd also work fine
http://www.mirrycle.com/mirrycle_mirrors.php. They tend not to move
around because they attach tightly and the pivots are tight, but that
makes them harder to adjust too.

What you want to avoid at all costs are mirrors that attach to your
helmet or to eyeglasses. These are not only difficult to use, they make
riding more dangerous, not less.