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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:29:04 -0500, "Dan Volker"
wrote: [snip chain slap crap] The only possible solution I can think of is removing the Big ring from the equation, and taking out several links--shortening the chain, in the hope that this will mean less travel potential for the chain....I'd rather have a better solution, and am hoping someone has one... Dan, Dan, Dan, the best solution is right under your nose. You were close when you mentioned removing the Big ring. Convert your rig to a SS and start enjoying life. Dan V Peace, Bill Stop Dave from humping, send money to have him/her spayed or nuetered. |
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"Bill Wheeler" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:29:04 -0500, "Dan Volker" wrote: [snip chain slap crap] The only possible solution I can think of is removing the Big ring from the equation, and taking out several links--shortening the chain, in the hope that this will mean less travel potential for the chain....I'd rather have a better solution, and am hoping someone has one... Dan, Dan, Dan, the best solution is right under your nose. You were close when you mentioned removing the Big ring. Convert your rig to a SS and start enjoying life. Dan V Peace, Bill Bill, Bill, Bill, :-) I have people I am beginning to enjoy riding with again, that are very fast expert class racers, and they are riding on bikes like the Intense X-country bike, and on Santa Cruz Blurs. You could put a top pro on a single speed, and he would get smoked by these guys on the trails we ride--there is just too much variability in the terrain and obstacles--some sections have to be ridden in a very small gear in order to navigate extremely technical turns with big roots, this followed immediately by 20 mph plus sections you can haul ass on. Single speeders would have no hope, except to keep up with the HFS contingent ( Huge Fat Slobs) :-) Regards, Dan V |
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Dan Volker retorted :
"Bill Wheeler" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:29:04 -0500, "Dan Volker" wrote: [snip chain slap crap] The only possible solution I can think of is removing the Big ring from the equation, and taking out several links--shortening the chain, in the hope that this will mean less travel potential for the chain....I'd rather have a better solution, and am hoping someone has one... Dan, Dan, Dan, the best solution is right under your nose. You were close when you mentioned removing the Big ring. Convert your rig to a SS and start enjoying life. Dan V Peace, Bill Bill, Bill, Bill, :-) I have people I am beginning to enjoy riding with again, that are very fast expert class racers, and they are riding on bikes like the Intense X-country bike, and on Santa Cruz Blurs. You could put a top pro on a single speed, and he would get smoked by these guys on the trails we ride--there is just too much variability in the terrain and obstacles--some sections have to be ridden in a very small gear in order to navigate extremely technical turns with big roots, this followed immediately by 20 mph plus sections you can haul ass on. Single speeders would have no hope, except to keep up with the HFS contingent ( Huge Fat Slobs) :-) Regards, Dan V The gauntlet has been thrown..... |
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On 17 Feb 2004 22:53:42 -0800, JD wrote:
Ride a singlespeed. JD Couldn't have teed that one up any better... G |
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Dan Volker wrote:
I have people I am beginning to enjoy riding with again, that are very fast expert class racers, and they are riding on bikes like the Intense X-country bike, and on Santa Cruz Blurs. You could put a top pro on a single speed, and he would get smoked by these guys on the trails we ride--there is just too much variability in the terrain and obstacles--some sections have to be ridden in a very small gear in order to navigate extremely technical turns with big roots, this followed immediately by 20 mph plus sections you can haul ass on. You're in Florida, right? How inconsequential to anywhere with hills or mountains, which is just about everywhere else. JD |
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"JD" wrote in message om... Dan Volker wrote: I have people I am beginning to enjoy riding with again, that are very fast expert class racers, and they are riding on bikes like the Intense X-country bike, and on Santa Cruz Blurs. You could put a top pro on a single speed, and he would get smoked by these guys on the trails we ride--there is just too much variability in the terrain and obstacles--some sections have to be ridden in a very small gear in order to navigate extremely technical turns with big roots, this followed immediately by 20 mph plus sections you can haul ass on. You're in Florida, right? How inconsequential to anywhere with hills or mountains, which is just about everywhere else. JD JD, Unfortunately, I have to agree with that sentiment---I don't like Florida trails..I like N.C and Georgia trails, if I was going to stereotype. However, why not let me know about Norba National Cross Country races won on a SS over all the other racers on bikes like the Santa Cruz and Intenses. I don't see how it matters much, that some fit guy, on a single speeder, can out ride a bunch of fat guys on hot bikes--its even more meaningless than my geographic challenges. If you like dueling it out with your friends on a trail, why shoot yourself in the foot by getting a single speed bike ?? Regards, Dan V |
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"Dan Volker" wrote in message news:
Unfortunately, I have to agree with that sentiment---I don't like Florida trails..I like N.C and Georgia trails, if I was going to stereotype. However, why not let me know about Norba National Cross Country races won on a SS over all the other racers on bikes like the Santa Cruz and Intenses. I don't see how it matters much, that some fit guy, on a single speeder, can out ride a bunch of fat guys on hot bikes--its even more meaningless than my geographic challenges. What does NORBA have to do anything? Amateur racing is meaningless. In fact, as far as the type of bicycle is concerned, professional racing is meaningless as well. Will you ever get it that it's not the bike, it's the rider? If you like dueling it out with your friends on a trail, why shoot yourself in the foot by getting a single speed bike ?? I agree, if you have limited bicycle handling skills. Again, it's not about the bike, it's about the rider. Please, stay on your oh-so-technical trails and avoid the West. It's obviously not for you. JD |
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Single speeders would have no hope, except to keep up with the HFS contingent ( Huge Fat Slobs) :-) Ignorance is bliss I've heard. Regards, Dan V Peace, Bill Stop Dave from humping, send money to have him/her spayed or nuetered. |
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Bill Wheeler wrote:
Peace, Bill Stop Dave from humping, send money to have him/her spayed or nuetered. maybe it's the drugs, but that sig is damn funny. please continue Tom |
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"JD" wrote in message om... "Dan Volker" wrote in message news: What does NORBA have to do anything? Amateur racing is meaningless. In fact, as far as the type of bicycle is concerned, professional racing is meaningless as well. Will you ever get it that it's not the bike, it's the rider? It has to do with hitting the highest speed possible at every moment--to some people, this is fun--to me this is fun. I can go much faster on constantly varrying terrain, with the ability to shift into bigger or smaller gears as needed to hit the optimum speed. If you like dueling it out with your friends on a trail, why shoot yourself in the foot by getting a single speed bike ?? I agree, if you have limited bicycle handling skills. Again, it's not about the bike, it's about the rider. I think you are dramatically overstating skills ---Florida riders do extremely well in races all over the country, including all over the west--so I don't think your skills idea holds water. The speed would be the issue on the trails I care about--and that would be influenced heavily by being able to shift. In many of these trails, maximum speed on some trail sections could be 6 mph, on other sections max speed could be 16 mph, and on big flat sections with high speed turns, it could be 25 mph. On the downhills the single speeder can coast, but that would not keep him in the game with people well set up and skilled for high speed downhills. Regards, Dan V JD |
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