Vivente World randonneur

http://www.viventebikes.com/product/...nt/0/t/product

Anyone checked these out? Ride report? Thinking of getting one, or
Surly Long haul Trucker-any opinions?

burnt

that's quite a 'complete' bike!

and does that thing have 40 spokes on the rear wheel!?!?!?!?!


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flyingdutch

"burnt" wrote:

Anyone checked these out? Ride report? Thinking of getting one, or
Surly Long haul Trucker-any opinions?

Looks to be a great tourer, and very well specced with Tubus racks, B&M
lights, Schmidt dynohub, mudguards - all great stuff and strongly
recommended.

But if it was me I would fit it with trekking bars and mtb-style brake
levers to operate v-brakes. Their power and convenience of operation are so
much more valuable for any touring that is likely to go off onto gravel
roads in hilly country. And that is surely the best of touring, eh?

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Cheers
Peter

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PeteSig wrote:

But if it was me I would fit it with trekking bars and mtb-style brake
levers to operate v-brakes. Their power and convenience of operation are so
much more valuable for any touring that is likely to go off onto gravel
roads in hilly country. And that is surely the best of touring, eh?

Umm, if you are going to do gravel roads, you might like to consider
what happens when it rains. Those mudguards will become the best brake
you can every get as mud builds up on the tyre.

Con 2; The front rack looks a little insubstantial and I'd prefer low
rider rear racks as well.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:41:51 +1000, Terryc wrote:

Umm, if you are going to do gravel roads, you might like to consider
what happens when it rains. Those mudguards will become the best brake
you can every get as mud builds up on the tyre.

I've not had any issues with the mud guards on my hack bike. It's mostly
on road, but it's done quite a few wet firetrails. It all depends on the
surface, and to an extent the tyre.

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Dave Hughes |
If you drink Real beer, you become horizontal... so, if you
drink Imaginary beer, you become vertical... -- Thorfinn

"Terryc" wrote:

Umm, if you are going to do gravel roads, you might like to consider what
happens when it rains. Those mudguards will become the best brake you can
every get as mud builds up on the tyre.

Personally I've done plenty of dirt road touring with mudguards, often in
rain ( even reemember what that stuff is!). You don't always get adhesibve
quality mud from a wet gravel road, in fact quite rarely from my experience.
Clay base roads are the killer for that, but generally need a fair bit of
rain to turn into real tyre-blockers. It depends on the soil quality of the
area I guess.

Con 2; The front rack looks a little insubstantial and I'd prefer low
rider rear racks as well.

Not at all. I have that rack on my tandem. It's great!!
http://www.wallbike.com/tubus/duo.html

It fits to a double sided braze-on, and is *very rigid*. It is made of
tubular Chrome-moly and rated to carry 15 kgs, same as the Tubus Tara which
has a hoop-over the wheel. Tubus do make slightly lower mounting rear racks,
mainly to get the bags lower to create a more level top-of-rack surface. I
use the Cargo (as on the Vivente) and have always used a standard rear rack.

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Cheers
Peter

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burnt wrote:
http://www.viventebikes.com/product/...nt/0/t/product

Anyone checked these out? Ride report? Thinking of getting one, or
Surly Long haul Trucker-any opinions?

burnt


I just went into Morley Cycles (Perth) and had a good chat with the
bloke who runs it. I mentioned cheeky monkey and the price on their
site ($1700), the boss visibly winced. He wasnt too interested in
having getting one on the floor, though he did have some interesting
bikes that I havent seen in other Perth bike shops. I guess a
randonneur/tourer is quite a niche for a bicycle, jusy happens there are
very few shops who will carry that type of bike.

I like the look of the thing though. A lot.