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Hincapie the Cause of the T-Mobile Demise?
When you read the Spiegel article, it's important to keep in mind that
Bob Stapleton was hired under the claim he was going to implement some kind of "state-of-the-art" anti-doping program at T-Mobile. Georgio Hincrapie, recently hired by High Road in 2007, was alleged to be a chronic doper by Lance Armstrong's personal agent at Oakley, Stephanie McIlvain, in a surreptiously recorded phone call by Greg LemonD (aka "The Tool"). This recording has been available for the past 3 years, but apparently Bob Stapleton has either never heard it or doesn't want to hear it. Either way, Staplehead is an ostrich with his head in the sand. The Spiegel article has a nice little section on page 2 that intimates Hincapie's hiring might have been the straw that broke the camel's back which resulted in Deutsche Telekom finally pulling the plug. -------- from Spiegel: In keeping with this philosophy, Stapleton had no qualms about signing fellow American George Hincapie for the coming season. Hincapie, 34, was Lance Armstrong's trusted lieutenant during his series of Tour victories. In 2005, the tall American won the most difficult mountain stage of the Tour, even though he had never excelled as a mountain specialist before. For Telekom, Hincapie was just another image problem, a time bomb because he probably knows a great deal about Armstrong's miraculous trail of victories. But for Stapleton he was a solid rider with a clean record who was willing to conform to the team's anti-doping policies. Despite the company's attempts to convince him to change his mind, Stapleton insisted on hiring Hincapie. The rift between Stapleton and Telekom had become so wide that the separation had to be painstakingly negotiated. On Nov. 6, the company's board of directors decided to examine ways to get rid of Stapleton immediately. The simplest approach was not an option. -------- Also, Rolf Aldag, current manager of High Road, confessed to being a chronic doper throughout his career as a rider. Yet Staplerhead keeps Alldouche on in the role of team manager simply because he "confessed." This is the equivalent of a police department hiring a pedophile to run its Special Victims Unit just because he confessed. The Germans must be some real deep throat cocksuckers for these very public crybaby press conference confessions as some kind of vestigial retroactive remorse for that little concentration camp thing they let happen back in WWII. In reality, a confession means little, especially if you don't give back any of the illegal proceeds you STOLE as a result of your cheating, which none of these "confessors" ever do (reference: any number of Matt "Kid Adrenaline" DeCanio rants). This is why Jeanson's confession is hollow. In the U.S. federal court system, confessing means nothing in sentencing guidelines. However, restitution does. If you steal money from a bank, a federal prosecutor doesn't give a donkey dick if you confessed to it or not - he only cares if you pay it back. That's because a confession without victim compensation is just another selfish act by the person making it to clear their own conscience without caring about redressing the victim(s) injuries/loss. After confessing to using EPO (and never returning a single penny of prize money or salary, of course), it was discovered Eric Zabel was in negotiations with Staplerhead for a contract in 2008. Stapleton said he would welcome not only Crybaby back but, get this, Sinkabitch as well! Finally, the two doctors from the Freiberg Clinic who Staplerhead hired to oversee this state-of-the-art anti-doping program - Drs. Lothar Heinrich and Andreas Schmidt - as it turns out, were both Dr. Mengele's in disguise. They were EPO and blood transfusion traffickers - kingpins of the doping underworld in cycling who actually managed and administrated the doping program at T-Mobile for years! This is like hiring George Bush to be the Dean of your Foreign Affairs Department at a university and then wondering why you notice three new courses for the Fall Semester with the title: "Drop Bombs First, Ask Questions Later 101." Then, in retaliation for not wanting to give such a fraudulently managed team $20 million/year, Scissorhands hires private detectives to investigate Deutsche Telekom to dig up dirt on them so he can use that information to blackmail them into a higher severance payout! This guy just showed his hand. And all he had the entire time were JOKERS. Thanks, Magilla http://www.spiegel.de/international/...2031-2,00.html |
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... When you read the Spiegel article, it's important to keep in mind that Bob Stapleton was hired under the claim he was going to implement some kind of "state-of-the-art" anti-doping program at T-Mobile. Georgio Hincrapie, recently hired by High Road in 2007, was alleged to be a chronic doper by Lance Armstrong's personal agent at Oakley, Stephanie McIlvain, in a surreptiously recorded phone call by Greg LemonD (aka "The Tool"). This recording has been available for the past 3 years, but apparently Bob Stapleton has either never heard it or doesn't want to hear it. Either way, Staplehead is an ostrich with his head in the sand. The Spiegel article has a nice little section on page 2 that intimates Hincapie's hiring might have been the straw that broke the camel's back which resulted in Deutsche Telekom finally pulling the plug. -------- from Spiegel: In keeping with this philosophy, Stapleton had no qualms about signing fellow American George Hincapie for the coming season. Hincapie, 34, was Lance Armstrong's trusted lieutenant during his series of Tour victories. In 2005, the tall American won the most difficult mountain stage of the Tour, even though he had never excelled as a mountain specialist before. For Telekom, Hincapie was just another image problem, a time bomb because he probably knows a great deal about Armstrong's miraculous trail of victories. But for Stapleton he was a solid rider with a clean record who was willing to conform to the team's anti-doping policies. Despite the company's attempts to convince him to change his mind, Stapleton insisted on hiring Hincapie. The rift between Stapleton and Telekom had become so wide that the separation had to be painstakingly negotiated. On Nov. 6, the company's board of directors decided to examine ways to get rid of Stapleton immediately. The simplest approach was not an option. -------- Also, Rolf Aldag, current manager of High Road, confessed to being a chronic doper throughout his career as a rider. Yet Staplerhead keeps Alldouche on in the role of team manager simply because he "confessed." This is the equivalent of a police department hiring a pedophile to run its Special Victims Unit just because he confessed. The Germans must be some real deep throat cocksuckers for these very public crybaby press conference confessions as some kind of vestigial retroactive remorse for that little concentration camp thing they let happen back in WWII. In reality, a confession means little, especially if you don't give back any of the illegal proceeds you STOLE as a result of your cheating, which none of these "confessors" ever do (reference: any number of Matt "Kid Adrenaline" DeCanio rants). This is why Jeanson's confession is hollow. In the U.S. federal court system, confessing means nothing in sentencing guidelines. However, restitution does. If you steal money from a bank, a federal prosecutor doesn't give a donkey dick if you confessed to it or not - he only cares if you pay it back. That's because a confession without victim compensation is just another selfish act by the person making it to clear their own conscience without caring about redressing the victim(s) injuries/loss. After confessing to using EPO (and never returning a single penny of prize money or salary, of course), it was discovered Eric Zabel was in negotiations with Staplerhead for a contract in 2008. Stapleton said he would welcome not only Crybaby back but, get this, Sinkabitch as well! Finally, the two doctors from the Freiberg Clinic who Staplerhead hired to oversee this state-of-the-art anti-doping program - Drs. Lothar Heinrich and Andreas Schmidt - as it turns out, were both Dr. Mengele's in disguise. They were EPO and blood transfusion traffickers - kingpins of the doping underworld in cycling who actually managed and administrated the doping program at T-Mobile for years! This is like hiring George Bush to be the Dean of your Foreign Affairs Department at a university and then wondering why you notice three new courses for the Fall Semester with the title: "Drop Bombs First, Ask Questions Later 101." Then, in retaliation for not wanting to give such a fraudulently managed team $20 million/year, Scissorhands hires private detectives to investigate Deutsche Telekom to dig up dirt on them so he can use that information to blackmail them into a higher severance payout! This guy just showed his hand. And all he had the entire time were JOKERS. Thanks, Magilla http://www.spiegel.de/international/...2031-2,00.html |
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LeMond comes out of that conversation looking really bad. Both of them
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Hincapie the Cause of the T-Mobile Demise?
In 2005, the tall American won the most difficult mountain stage of the
Tour, even though he had never excelled as a mountain specialist before. Talk about taking something out of context. Perhaps we should look at what Periero thought about that stage- ================= Said a rather ****ed Pereiro at the finish line: "I asked him [Hincapie] to work, as we had to collaborate to battle it out in a sprint - but he didn't. Sometimes it's not the strongest that wins. I think I showed I was one the guys that wanted this stage the most. I thought there was victory in it for me, but that's life... I'll continue trying and one day I hope to be rewarded. Now, I'll continue to help Floyd [Landis] get on the podium." http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2005...sults/tour0515 ================= If you want to make a case for George performing unrealistically, you'd look at all those times he was pushing the tempo at the front for the first third, maybe more, of the major climbs. After having been working the race on the flats as well. But stage 15 of the '05 TdF was one of those nobody's working stages, allowing a break to get away almost by accident. Neither rider was in a position to make it to the podium at the finish; Hincapie ended up 14th, 23 minutes down, and Perieor 10th at 16 minutes down (10 minutes off the final podium spot). Both were working for other guys in the pack, and neither would have been allowed (nor capable) to get anywhere close to their leaders. It's the riders, not just the terrain, that makes a stage "the most difficult" of the Tour. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... When you read the Spiegel article, it's important to keep in mind that Bob Stapleton was hired under the claim he was going to implement some kind of "state-of-the-art" anti-doping program at T-Mobile. Georgio Hincrapie, recently hired by High Road in 2007, was alleged to be a chronic doper by Lance Armstrong's personal agent at Oakley, Stephanie McIlvain, in a surreptiously recorded phone call by Greg LemonD (aka "The Tool"). This recording has been available for the past 3 years, but apparently Bob Stapleton has either never heard it or doesn't want to hear it. Either way, Staplehead is an ostrich with his head in the sand. The Spiegel article has a nice little section on page 2 that intimates Hincapie's hiring might have been the straw that broke the camel's back which resulted in Deutsche Telekom finally pulling the plug. -------- from Spiegel: In keeping with this philosophy, Stapleton had no qualms about signing fellow American George Hincapie for the coming season. Hincapie, 34, was Lance Armstrong's trusted lieutenant during his series of Tour victories. In 2005, the tall American won the most difficult mountain stage of the Tour, even though he had never excelled as a mountain specialist before. For Telekom, Hincapie was just another image problem, a time bomb because he probably knows a great deal about Armstrong's miraculous trail of victories. But for Stapleton he was a solid rider with a clean record who was willing to conform to the team's anti-doping policies. Despite the company's attempts to convince him to change his mind, Stapleton insisted on hiring Hincapie. The rift between Stapleton and Telekom had become so wide that the separation had to be painstakingly negotiated. On Nov. 6, the company's board of directors decided to examine ways to get rid of Stapleton immediately. The simplest approach was not an option. -------- Also, Rolf Aldag, current manager of High Road, confessed to being a chronic doper throughout his career as a rider. Yet Staplerhead keeps Alldouche on in the role of team manager simply because he "confessed." This is the equivalent of a police department hiring a pedophile to run its Special Victims Unit just because he confessed. The Germans must be some real deep throat cocksuckers for these very public crybaby press conference confessions as some kind of vestigial retroactive remorse for that little concentration camp thing they let happen back in WWII. In reality, a confession means little, especially if you don't give back any of the illegal proceeds you STOLE as a result of your cheating, which none of these "confessors" ever do (reference: any number of Matt "Kid Adrenaline" DeCanio rants). This is why Jeanson's confession is hollow. In the U.S. federal court system, confessing means nothing in sentencing guidelines. However, restitution does. If you steal money from a bank, a federal prosecutor doesn't give a donkey dick if you confessed to it or not - he only cares if you pay it back. That's because a confession without victim compensation is just another selfish act by the person making it to clear their own conscience without caring about redressing the victim(s) injuries/loss. After confessing to using EPO (and never returning a single penny of prize money or salary, of course), it was discovered Eric Zabel was in negotiations with Staplerhead for a contract in 2008. Stapleton said he would welcome not only Crybaby back but, get this, Sinkabitch as well! Finally, the two doctors from the Freiberg Clinic who Staplerhead hired to oversee this state-of-the-art anti-doping program - Drs. Lothar Heinrich and Andreas Schmidt - as it turns out, were both Dr. Mengele's in disguise. They were EPO and blood transfusion traffickers - kingpins of the doping underworld in cycling who actually managed and administrated the doping program at T-Mobile for years! This is like hiring George Bush to be the Dean of your Foreign Affairs Department at a university and then wondering why you notice three new courses for the Fall Semester with the title: "Drop Bombs First, Ask Questions Later 101." Then, in retaliation for not wanting to give such a fraudulently managed team $20 million/year, Scissorhands hires private detectives to investigate Deutsche Telekom to dig up dirt on them so he can use that information to blackmail them into a higher severance payout! This guy just showed his hand. And all he had the entire time were JOKERS. Thanks, Magilla http://www.spiegel.de/international/...2031-2,00.html |
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Hincapie the Cause of the T-Mobile Demise?
Yeah I knew Spiegel wasn't on the up-and-up with the details of that
stage, but it helped corroborate what Stephanie McIlvain said about Hincapie's baby being born with flippers because of all the dope he did, so I quoted it. I figured most poeple in here were smart enough to know Hincapie won that day in a trashcan break that was allowed to go up the road. But just keep in mind that Spiegel's sloppiness does not negate what McIlvain knows about Hincapie. All those pros who are your heroes have less integrity than Rosie Ruiz. Magilla ---------------- Mike Jacoubowsky wrote: In 2005, the tall American won the most difficult mountain stage of the Tour, even though he had never excelled as a mountain specialist before. Talk about taking something out of context. Perhaps we should look at what Periero thought about that stage- ================= Said a rather ****ed Pereiro at the finish line: "I asked him [Hincapie] to work, as we had to collaborate to battle it out in a sprint - but he didn't. Sometimes it's not the strongest that wins. I think I showed I was one the guys that wanted this stage the most. I thought there was victory in it for me, but that's life... I'll continue trying and one day I hope to be rewarded. Now, I'll continue to help Floyd [Landis] get on the podium." http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2005...sults/tour0515 ================= If you want to make a case for George performing unrealistically, you'd look at all those times he was pushing the tempo at the front for the first third, maybe more, of the major climbs. After having been working the race on the flats as well. But stage 15 of the '05 TdF was one of those nobody's working stages, allowing a break to get away almost by accident. Neither rider was in a position to make it to the podium at the finish; Hincapie ended up 14th, 23 minutes down, and Perieor 10th at 16 minutes down (10 minutes off the final podium spot). Both were working for other guys in the pack, and neither would have been allowed (nor capable) to get anywhere close to their leaders. It's the riders, not just the terrain, that makes a stage "the most difficult" of the Tour. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... When you read the Spiegel article, it's important to keep in mind that Bob Stapleton was hired under the claim he was going to implement some kind of "state-of-the-art" anti-doping program at T-Mobile. Georgio Hincrapie, recently hired by High Road in 2007, was alleged to be a chronic doper by Lance Armstrong's personal agent at Oakley, Stephanie McIlvain, in a surreptiously recorded phone call by Greg LemonD (aka "The Tool"). This recording has been available for the past 3 years, but apparently Bob Stapleton has either never heard it or doesn't want to hear it. Either way, Staplehead is an ostrich with his head in the sand. The Spiegel article has a nice little section on page 2 that intimates Hincapie's hiring might have been the straw that broke the camel's back which resulted in Deutsche Telekom finally pulling the plug. -------- from Spiegel: In keeping with this philosophy, Stapleton had no qualms about signing fellow American George Hincapie for the coming season. Hincapie, 34, was Lance Armstrong's trusted lieutenant during his series of Tour victories. In 2005, the tall American won the most difficult mountain stage of the Tour, even though he had never excelled as a mountain specialist before. For Telekom, Hincapie was just another image problem, a time bomb because he probably knows a great deal about Armstrong's miraculous trail of victories. But for Stapleton he was a solid rider with a clean record who was willing to conform to the team's anti-doping policies. Despite the company's attempts to convince him to change his mind, Stapleton insisted on hiring Hincapie. The rift between Stapleton and Telekom had become so wide that the separation had to be painstakingly negotiated. On Nov. 6, the company's board of directors decided to examine ways to get rid of Stapleton immediately. The simplest approach was not an option. -------- Also, Rolf Aldag, current manager of High Road, confessed to being a chronic doper throughout his career as a rider. Yet Staplerhead keeps Alldouche on in the role of team manager simply because he "confessed." This is the equivalent of a police department hiring a pedophile to run its Special Victims Unit just because he confessed. The Germans must be some real deep throat cocksuckers for these very public crybaby press conference confessions as some kind of vestigial retroactive remorse for that little concentration camp thing they let happen back in WWII. In reality, a confession means little, especially if you don't give back any of the illegal proceeds you STOLE as a result of your cheating, which none of these "confessors" ever do (reference: any number of Matt "Kid Adrenaline" DeCanio rants). This is why Jeanson's confession is hollow. In the U.S. federal court system, confessing means nothing in sentencing guidelines. However, restitution does. If you steal money from a bank, a federal prosecutor doesn't give a donkey dick if you confessed to it or not - he only cares if you pay it back. That's because a confession without victim compensation is just another selfish act by the person making it to clear their own conscience without caring about redressing the victim(s) injuries/loss. After confessing to using EPO (and never returning a single penny of prize money or salary, of course), it was discovered Eric Zabel was in negotiations with Staplerhead for a contract in 2008. Stapleton said he would welcome not only Crybaby back but, get this, Sinkabitch as well! Finally, the two doctors from the Freiberg Clinic who Staplerhead hired to oversee this state-of-the-art anti-doping program - Drs. Lothar Heinrich and Andreas Schmidt - as it turns out, were both Dr. Mengele's in disguise. They were EPO and blood transfusion traffickers - kingpins of the doping underworld in cycling who actually managed and administrated the doping program at T-Mobile for years! This is like hiring George Bush to be the Dean of your Foreign Affairs Department at a university and then wondering why you notice three new courses for the Fall Semester with the title: "Drop Bombs First, Ask Questions Later 101." Then, in retaliation for not wanting to give such a fraudulently managed team $20 million/year, Scissorhands hires private detectives to investigate Deutsche Telekom to dig up dirt on them so he can use that information to blackmail them into a higher severance payout! This guy just showed his hand. And all he had the entire time were JOKERS. Thanks, Magilla http://www.spiegel.de/international/...2031-2,00.html |
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... wrote: LeMond comes out of that conversation looking really bad. Both of them do. Laughing and talking about what George's baby is going to look like. LemonD was using a little Boonesfarm small talk to get Stephanie to "open up." It worked. Well, at least we now know why Hincapie's leg veins look like he got them from an alien. Why, are his parents aliens? It's statements like these that blur the facts. Phil H |
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Yeah Magilla.... RBR is just about facts!!!
"Phil Holman" piholmanc@yourservice wrote in message . .. "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... wrote: LeMond comes out of that conversation looking really bad. Both of them do. Laughing and talking about what George's baby is going to look like. LemonD was using a little Boonesfarm small talk to get Stephanie to "open up." It worked. Well, at least we now know why Hincapie's leg veins look like he got them from an alien. Why, are his parents aliens? It's statements like these that blur the facts. Phil H |
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Hey check out the alien legs....
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...ur061/IMG_0873 "Phil Holman" piholmanc@yourservice wrote in message . .. "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... wrote: LeMond comes out of that conversation looking really bad. Both of them do. Laughing and talking about what George's baby is going to look like. LemonD was using a little Boonesfarm small talk to get Stephanie to "open up." It worked. Well, at least we now know why Hincapie's leg veins look like he got them from an alien. Why, are his parents aliens? It's statements like these that blur the facts. Phil H |
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John Bickmo Hincapie the Cause of the T-Mobile Demise?
Facts matter,
Before there was a test for EPO, there was a de facto drug test that said ( summarizing ) If your hematocrit is above 50 then you are excused for racing for 2 weeks. Most Eurpoean racers hematocrit immediately dropped down to into the 48-49+ range. My point is: Hincapie and Armstrong have raced and have been drug tested. There is a record of there drug tests and hematocrit. If they were on EPO, then there would be a drop in hematocrit to stay under the radar when the 50% rule took effect. The information exists. Those who have the information = MAKE IT AVAILABLE Truth matters and now is a good time to lay speculation to rest. Put the facts on the table, John Bickmore 303-695-6467 "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... When you read the Spiegel article, it's important to keep in mind that Bob Stapleton was hired under the claim he was going to implement some kind of "state-of-the-art" anti-doping program at T-Mobile. Georgio Hincrapie, recently hired by High Road in 2007, was alleged to be a chronic doper by Lance Armstrong's personal agent at Oakley, Stephanie McIlvain, in a surreptiously recorded phone call by Greg LemonD (aka "The Tool"). This recording has been available for the past 3 years, but apparently Bob Stapleton has either never heard it or doesn't want to hear it. Either way, Staplehead is an ostrich with his head in the sand. The Spiegel article has a nice little section on page 2 that intimates Hincapie's hiring might have been the straw that broke the camel's back which resulted in Deutsche Telekom finally pulling the plug. -------- from Spiegel: In keeping with this philosophy, Stapleton had no qualms about signing fellow American George Hincapie for the coming season. Hincapie, 34, was Lance Armstrong's trusted lieutenant during his series of Tour victories. In 2005, the tall American won the most difficult mountain stage of the Tour, even though he had never excelled as a mountain specialist before. For Telekom, Hincapie was just another image problem, a time bomb because he probably knows a great deal about Armstrong's miraculous trail of victories. But for Stapleton he was a solid rider with a clean record who was willing to conform to the team's anti-doping policies. Despite the company's attempts to convince him to change his mind, Stapleton insisted on hiring Hincapie. The rift between Stapleton and Telekom had become so wide that the separation had to be painstakingly negotiated. On Nov. 6, the company's board of directors decided to examine ways to get rid of Stapleton immediately. The simplest approach was not an option. -------- Also, Rolf Aldag, current manager of High Road, confessed to being a chronic doper throughout his career as a rider. Yet Staplerhead keeps Alldouche on in the role of team manager simply because he "confessed." This is the equivalent of a police department hiring a pedophile to run its Special Victims Unit just because he confessed. The Germans must be some real deep throat cocksuckers for these very public crybaby press conference confessions as some kind of vestigial retroactive remorse for that little concentration camp thing they let happen back in WWII. In reality, a confession means little, especially if you don't give back any of the illegal proceeds you STOLE as a result of your cheating, which none of these "confessors" ever do (reference: any number of Matt "Kid Adrenaline" DeCanio rants). This is why Jeanson's confession is hollow. In the U.S. federal court system, confessing means nothing in sentencing guidelines. However, restitution does. If you steal money from a bank, a federal prosecutor doesn't give a donkey dick if you confessed to it or not - he only cares if you pay it back. That's because a confession without victim compensation is just another selfish act by the person making it to clear their own conscience without caring about redressing the victim(s) injuries/loss. After confessing to using EPO (and never returning a single penny of prize money or salary, of course), it was discovered Eric Zabel was in negotiations with Staplerhead for a contract in 2008. Stapleton said he would welcome not only Crybaby back but, get this, Sinkabitch as well! Finally, the two doctors from the Freiberg Clinic who Staplerhead hired to oversee this state-of-the-art anti-doping program - Drs. Lothar Heinrich and Andreas Schmidt - as it turns out, were both Dr. Mengele's in disguise. They were EPO and blood transfusion traffickers - kingpins of the doping underworld in cycling who actually managed and administrated the doping program at T-Mobile for years! This is like hiring George Bush to be the Dean of your Foreign Affairs Department at a university and then wondering why you notice three new courses for the Fall Semester with the title: "Drop Bombs First, Ask Questions Later 101." Then, in retaliation for not wanting to give such a fraudulently managed team $20 million/year, Scissorhands hires private detectives to investigate Deutsche Telekom to dig up dirt on them so he can use that information to blackmail them into a higher severance payout! This guy just showed his hand. And all he had the entire time were JOKERS. Thanks, Magilla http://www.spiegel.de/international/...2031-2,00.html |
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