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On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 07:59:49 -0700, Joerg
wrote: Interesting. How do you keep that from drying up? That is always my problem. Just a few months after helping another rider fix a flat my vulcanizing tube contents gum up, especially during summer. I have the same problem with the small tubes of rubber cement that I keep in the car. Even the ones that have never been opened are dried out after a few months baking in the car. The best solution I've found so far is to seal them inside a vacuum seal bag. https://www.uline.com/BL_5563/Vacuum-Bags I built my own sealer using an Edwards vacuum pump and a syringe. Harbor Freight is cheaper: http://www.harborfreight.com/25-cfm-vacuum-pump-98076.html http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vacuum-pump-with-r134a-and-r12-connectors-96677.html I have two tubes of rubber cement currently in the car that I'm testing. My guess(tm) is about 9 months so far. I'll open it up after 1 year. I suspect that the Zip-Loc type bags will also work but probably not as well. I haven't bothered to find a Zip-Loc bag that's the correct size for the tube. I also tried using a pressurized outer container. The idea was to raise the pressure outside of the tube to something higher than the vapor pressure. In theory, that should have reduced evaporation. However, the solvent managed to diffuse through the cap seal, and the pre-opened tube was dry in about 3 months. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 12:37:37 PM UTC-4, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
WTF ? SEZ Skin lubricant Do not use internally https://www.specialized.com/us/en/components/tubes http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/GenuinePartsCompany/NWMDC?$Product=GenuinePartsCompany/255880 https://www.google.com/search?site=i...izin g+cement bought a small can yesterday $17 last glue shot at getting the Montrail’s soles back on without a shoemaker. Mon using that NB water soluble glue ? new NAPA number is 165-1685 there is an MSDS contents know to State of California to caws microchephaly |
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Interesting. How do you keep that from drying up? That is always my problem. Just a few months after helping another rider fix a flat my vulcanizing tube contents gum up, especially during summer. Coat the tube with glue the first time you open it. |
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On 2016-10-20 09:32, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 07:59:49 -0700, Joerg wrote: Interesting. How do you keep that from drying up? That is always my problem. Just a few months after helping another rider fix a flat my vulcanizing tube contents gum up, especially during summer. I have the same problem with the small tubes of rubber cement that I keep in the car. Even the ones that have never been opened are dried out after a few months baking in the car. The best solution I've found so far is to seal them inside a vacuum seal bag. https://www.uline.com/BL_5563/Vacuum-Bags I built my own sealer using an Edwards vacuum pump and a syringe. Harbor Freight is cheaper: http://www.harborfreight.com/25-cfm-vacuum-pump-98076.html For $100 I can buy a lot of new little cement tubes or even whole patch kits. http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vacuum-pump-with-r134a-and-r12-connectors-96677.html $20 is better but still too much for this one purpose. Plus clogs up the garage more. A few days ago I ordered a 5-ton electric/hydraulic log splitter. They have it on a coupon-sale for $230 right now. To my utter amazement this huge 110lbs monster still ships for a $7 flat fee, less than I'd pay for gas to drive to the store for pickup. I have two tubes of rubber cement currently in the car that I'm testing. My guess(tm) is about 9 months so far. I'll open it up after 1 year. I suspect that the Zip-Loc type bags will also work but probably not as well. I haven't bothered to find a Zip-Loc bag that's the correct size for the tube. I also tried using a pressurized outer container. The idea was to raise the pressure outside of the tube to something higher than the vapor pressure. In theory, that should have reduced evaporation. However, the solvent managed to diffuse through the cap seal, and the pre-opened tube was dry in about 3 months. Not sure if a CO2 atmosphere would prevent it from hardening. If so, I could use the byproduct of the beer brewing I started a few months ago. CO2 is coming out of the airlocks so there should be no chance of backfeeding any nasty smells. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2016-10-20 10:02, Doug Landau wrote:
Interesting. How do you keep that from drying up? That is always my problem. Just a few months after helping another rider fix a flat my vulcanizing tube contents gum up, especially during summer. Coat the tube with glue the first time you open it. Ah, great idea! -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
:On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 07:59:49 -0700, Joerg :wrote: :Interesting. How do you keep that from drying up? That is always my :problem. Just a few months after helping another rider fix a flat my :vulcanizing tube contents gum up, especially during summer. :I have the same problem with the small tubes of rubber cement that I :keep in the car. Even the ones that have never been opened are dried ut after a few months baking in the car. The best solution I've Note that vulcanizing fluid will vulcanize itself. Exposing it to heat is a good way to make that happen. Cars get hot. This can happen even when there's solvent in the tube. -- What's the rule on that? |
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Coat the tube with glue the first time you open it. Ah, great idea! I must confess i just thunk it up i dunno if it actually works |
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On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 4:49:13 PM UTC-4, Doug Landau wrote:
Coat the tube with glue the first time you open it. Ah, great idea! I must confess i just thunk it up i dunno if it actually works UH ON ALL OTHER TUBES including 3M Rubber Adhesive n the various liquid electrical tapes, a patch of grocery bag film over the tube threads, cap loosely, squeeze out air n tighten cap. this works here in Florida. The method does not work for small rubber cement tubes. |
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On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 6:28:59 PM UTC-4, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 4:49:13 PM UTC-4, Doug Landau wrote: Coat the tube with glue the first time you open it. Ah, great idea! I must confess i just thunk it up i dunno if it actually works UH ON ALL OTHER TUBES including 3M Rubber Adhesive n the various liquid electrical tapes, a patch of grocery bag film over the tube threads, cap loosely, squeeze out air n tighten cap. this works here in Florida. The method does not work for small rubber cement tubes. 'its a pack of Listerine Breath Freshener strips' https://www.specialized.com/us/en/components/tubes |
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