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Old June 6th 07, 06:00 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Colin Campbell
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Default Okay, the Giro is over, ...

and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet.

I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing
positives as that one in Paris.

Or, maybe only clean riders ride in the Giro, due to the "piano" stages
that let them rest for hours on end.

The average speed for the race was under 38 kph. That is a speed I can
almost comprehend, although I could never hope to reach it myself.

Speeds in the TdF have been MUCH higher. I wonder if that will be true
this year?
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Old June 6th 07, 06:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Okay, the Giro is over, ...

Colin Campbell wrote:
and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet.

I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing
positives as that one in Paris.


They're just not as motivated.
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Old June 6th 07, 06:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Okay, the Giro is over, ...

On Jun 6, 7:00 am, Colin Campbell wrote:

Speeds in the TdF have been MUCH higher. I wonder if that will be true
this year?


France has much different terrain than Italy.

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Old June 6th 07, 07:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Fred Fredburger wrote:

Colin Campbell wrote:
and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet.

I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing
positives as that one in Paris.


They're just not as motivated.


Some of the other labs do seem to be super motivated to get positives, don't they?
Hmm, should we be wondering if the labs are doping (so to speak)?

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Old June 6th 07, 01:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Okay, the Giro is over, ...

On Jun 5, 11:31 pm, Fred Fredburger
wrote:
Colin Campbell wrote:
and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet.


I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing
positives as that one in Paris.


They're just not as motivated.


Yep...just had the Bolder Boulder here and a bunch of elite runners
hauled ass for the for $ 10k....Kenyans and Ethiopians 'ran away' with
it again, of course...ya think they test for EPO? 'If yer afraid of
the answer, don't ask the question'...

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Old June 6th 07, 04:48 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jun 5, 10:00 pm, Colin Campbell wrote:
and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet.

I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing
positives as that one in Paris.


That's probably the case....

Or, maybe only clean riders ride in the Giro, due to the "piano" stages
that let them rest for hours on end.


Can you rest while riding 24 mph for 80 miles before the real racing
starts?

The average speed for the race was under 38 kph. That is a speed I can
almost comprehend, although I could never hope to reach it myself.


I dropped all of the "real" climbers on a recent ride while averaging
12 mph or less than 20 kph. 38 kph is an average speed of 23.5 mph
which would look good in a lot of crits, let alone 2000 miles of
racing.

Speeds in the TdF have been MUCH higher. I wonder if that will be true
this year?


Remember that this year's Giro set an average speed record. What does
that tell you about the people claiming that you have to dope to make
these super high speeds?

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Old June 6th 07, 04:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jun 5, 10:36 pm, wrote:
On Jun 6, 7:00 am, Colin Campbell wrote:

Speeds in the TdF have been MUCH higher. I wonder if that will be true
this year?


France has much different terrain than Italy.


Come on Robert. Remember this thing called "conversation"? France does
not have "much different terrain" than Italy. But the races are
arrange to cover different sorts of terrain.

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Old June 6th 07, 05:24 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro
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cyclintom wrote:
I dropped all of the "real" climbers on a recent ride while averaging
12 mph or less than 20 kph.


I shudder to think what speed the unreal climbers were doing.

38 kph is an average speed of 23.5 mph which would look good in a lot of crits,


It would have to be a very hilly or very windy tactical criterium for
38Kph to look remotely good.

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Old June 6th 07, 07:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Colin Campbell
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wrote:
On Jun 5, 10:00 pm, Colin Campbell wrote:
and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet.

I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing
positives as that one in Paris.


That's probably the case....

Or, maybe only clean riders ride in the Giro, due to the "piano" stages
that let them rest for hours on end.


Can you rest while riding 24 mph for 80 miles before the real racing
starts?


From what the commentators were saying about Stage 21, the riders
averaged around 28 kph (17 mph) for the first 60% or so of the "parade"
into Milano. There were other days when they completely blew the
slowest expected finishing time. The "As Live" reruns on Cycling.TV
lasted over three hours on some stages. 24 mph is what the winner
averaged for the entire race.

The average speed for the race was under 38 kph. That is a speed I can
almost comprehend, although I could never hope to reach it myself.


I dropped all of the "real" climbers on a recent ride while averaging
12 mph or less than 20 kph. 38 kph is an average speed of 23.5 mph
which would look good in a lot of crits, let alone 2000 miles of
racing.

Speeds in the TdF have been MUCH higher. I wonder if that will be true
this year?


Remember that this year's Giro set an average speed record. What does
that tell you about the people claiming that you have to dope to make
these super high speeds?

I wasn't aware that this year's race was a record for speed. I'll have
to bone up on those stats, I guess.

This was posted in fun.
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Old June 6th 07, 08:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Okay, the Giro is over, ...

On Jun 6, 2:08 pm, Colin Campbell wrote:
wrote:
On Jun 5, 10:00 pm, Colin Campbell wrote:
and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet.


I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing
positives as that one in Paris.


That's probably the case....


Or, maybe only clean riders ride in the Giro, due to the "piano" stages
that let them rest for hours on end.


Can you rest while riding 24 mph for 80 miles before the real racing
starts?


From what the commentators were saying about Stage 21, the riders
averaged around 28 kph (17 mph) for the first 60% or so of the "parade"
into Milano. There were other days when they completely blew the
slowest expected finishing time. The "As Live" reruns on Cycling.TV
lasted over three hours on some stages. 24 mph is what the winner
averaged for the entire race.





The average speed for the race was under 38 kph. That is a speed I can
almost comprehend, although I could never hope to reach it myself.


I dropped all of the "real" climbers on a recent ride while averaging
12 mph or less than 20 kph. 38 kph is an average speed of 23.5 mph
which would look good in a lot of crits, let alone 2000 miles of
racing.


Speeds in the TdF have been MUCH higher. I wonder if that will be true
this year?


Remember that this year's Giro set an average speed record. What does
that tell you about the people claiming that you have to dope to make
these super high speeds?


I wasn't aware that this year's race was a record for speed. I'll have
to bone up on those stats, I guess.

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There weren't that many strong cyclists in the Giro. Most of the elite
are waiting for the Tour.

Andre

 




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