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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter,
and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. Candidates? -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll |
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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
On 2009-03-19, Tom Sherman wrote:
Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter, and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. Candidates? Tout Terrain? http://peterwhitecycles.com/tout-terrain.asp -- Kristian Zoerhoff |
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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
On Mar 19, 2:20*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote: Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter, and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. Candidates? -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll Surly Karate Monkey. Meets all requirements except that it's steel rather than ali. But Andrew Muzi wrote not too long ago that steel bikes don't actually rust away. Also, the KM has space for both fenders and 60mm balloons all the way up to 622 rims, if you want them, for a smoother ride over the rough stuff than 559s. -- Andre Jute |
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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
On 2009-03-19, Tom Sherman wrote: Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter, and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. Candidates? Tout Terrain? http://peterwhitecycles.com/tout-terrain.asp I would have to sprint through the grocery store to get back before it was stolen. Or are you getting back at me for suggesting the Big Bang in response to the question of what a good $50 light would be? -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll |
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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
... Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter, and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. Candidates? Carrera subway 8. Don't know how many of those criteria it meets, but it's quite a few. Unfortunately it does fail on one of the unstated ones - it's Halfords own brand, hence UK-only :-) |
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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
On Mar 19, 9:20*am, Tom Sherman
wrote: Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter, and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. http://helenscycles.com/itemdetails.cfm?LibId=51876 Electra Amsterdam Balloon 8. Yeah, it's derailleured, but it's a 1X8 system which is about stupidly easy to maintain as it gets.. Roller brakes and Fat Franks. Oh yeah. You can rebuild the front wheel onto a SA drum/dyno if it's that important to not have to change AAs every three months. |
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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
Clive George wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter, and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. Candidates? Carrera subway 8. Don't know how many of those criteria it meets, but it's quite a few. Unfortunately it does fail on one of the unstated ones - it's Halfords own brand, hence UK-only :-) If I was going to get a Europe only bicycle, a Cannondale Hooligan would be a candidate, but I imagine Cannondale would slap the hand (or more) of any dealer who would ship one to the US. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll |
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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
On 2009-03-19, Tom Sherman wrote:
Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: On 2009-03-19, Tom Sherman wrote: Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter, and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. Candidates? Tout Terrain? http://peterwhitecycles.com/tout-terrain.asp I would have to sprint through the grocery store to get back before it was stolen. You seriously need to find an apartment in a nicer part of M'waukee. Or are you getting back at me for suggesting the Big Bang in response to the question of what a good $50 light would be? Moi? Vengeful? You've been in too many flame wars, Tom. I whole-heartedly endorse B&M lights, even in the face of the dollar being worth less than a roll of Charmin. -- Kristian Zoerhoff |
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Kristian M Zoerhoff
wrote: Tout Terrain? http://peterwhitecycles.com/tout-terrain.asp wow he makes some very nice bikes! |
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Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)
Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
On 2009-03-19, Tom Sherman wrote: Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: On 2009-03-19, Tom Sherman wrote: Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter, and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop would be 8 miles or less. Requirements a A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required. B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as long as it is overbuilt (see A). C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement. D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires. E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers. F. Able to use an internally gear hub. G. Dynamo hub lighting. H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance. I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices. Candidates? Tout Terrain? http://peterwhitecycles.com/tout-terrain.asp I would have to sprint through the grocery store to get back before it was stolen. You seriously need to find an apartment in a nicer part of M'waukee. No, this will be after my move to Eye-Oh-Wuh. Or are you getting back at me for suggesting the Big Bang in response to the question of what a good $50 light would be? Moi? Vengeful? You've been in too many flame wars, Tom. I whole-heartedly endorse B&M lights, even in the face of the dollar being worth less than a roll of Charmin. No, I was considering your suggestion in good humor. However, an IQ Cyo is much more likely in my future than a Big Bang. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll |
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