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Hi all,
Im looking at a couple of second hand bikes. One is a bit cheaper with Disc Hayes HFX-9 ; the other bike is a few bux more but is XT V brake. I remember the Shimano XT/XTR stuff was always top notch, just wondering how an XT V brake would compare against the Hayes disc? And what about discs vs rotors generally? Many thanks.. |
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ODB wrote: Hi all, Im looking at a couple of second hand bikes. One is a bit cheaper with Disc Hayes HFX-9 ; the other bike is a few bux more but is XT V brake. I remember the Shimano XT/XTR stuff was always top notch, just wondering how an XT V brake would compare against the Hayes disc? And what about discs vs rotors generally? Many thanks.. I'm pretty sure Lotte has a definite opinion on this... *giggles* Good luck, Abby |
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Absent Husband wrote:
ODB wrote: Hi all, Im looking at a couple of second hand bikes. One is a bit cheaper with Disc Hayes HFX-9 ; the other bike is a few bux more but is XT V brake. I remember the Shimano XT/XTR stuff was always top notch, just wondering how an XT V brake would compare against the Hayes disc? And what about discs vs rotors generally? Many thanks.. I'm pretty sure Lotte has a definite opinion on this... *giggles* Good luck, Abby Ooo, brave man Abby I think she secretly liked my new MTB with hydraulic discs, but she'd never admit it of course! -- Karen If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.' Catherine Aird |
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"ODB" wrote One is a bit cheaper with Disc Hayes HFX-9 ; the other bike is a few bux more but is XT V brake. I remember the Shimano XT/XTR stuff was always top notch, just wondering how an XT V brake would compare against the Hayes disc? Both are excellent quality IMHO, and the weight issue is really not major. If it ever rains again here in Melbourne you'll see the performance advantages of Hayes hydros come to the fore. Personally since going to hydro discs about 5 years ago I've loved every minute of it. And maintenance issues have been very low key. People overstate this, I've only gone through one set of pads on the rear, front are still OK but low, and only needed one service on the rear brake with bleeding. The V-brakes on my other bike have needed much more work in the same time period. And what about discs vs rotors generally? Not sure what you mean by this one? Discs *are* rotors by definition. -- Cheers Peter ~~~ ~ _@ ~~ ~ _- \, ~~ (*)/ (*) |
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Sorry, I meant V brakes vs rotors generally?
"Peter Signorini" wrote in message ... "ODB" wrote One is a bit cheaper with Disc Hayes HFX-9 ; the other bike is a few bux more but is XT V brake. I remember the Shimano XT/XTR stuff was always top notch, just wondering how an XT V brake would compare against the Hayes disc? Both are excellent quality IMHO, and the weight issue is really not major. If it ever rains again here in Melbourne you'll see the performance advantages of Hayes hydros come to the fore. Personally since going to hydro discs about 5 years ago I've loved every minute of it. And maintenance issues have been very low key. People overstate this, I've only gone through one set of pads on the rear, front are still OK but low, and only needed one service on the rear brake with bleeding. The V-brakes on my other bike have needed much more work in the same time period. And what about discs vs rotors generally? Not sure what you mean by this one? Discs *are* rotors by definition. -- Cheers Peter ~~~ ~ _@ ~~ ~ _- \, ~~ (*)/ (*) |
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ODB wrote:
Sorry, I meant V brakes vs rotors generally? -- Cheers Peter Well I have three bikes, one with old fashioned brakes, one with cable disc brakes, and one with hydraulic disc brakes. All of them work well for me, but: The old fashioned ones don't work in the wet The cable disc brake has let me down once on a long descent, the disc got too hot, was glowing red & no longer had any braking power at all. The hydraulic braked bike is new (three weeks) but hasn't failed me yet. I really like them, whatever others say But in the dry, in not extreme conditions, I'm happy to use any of them. -- Karen If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.' Catherine Aird |
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ODB wrote:
Sorry, I meant V brakes vs rotors generally? Well set up V-brakes will give you as much stopping power as disc brakes. Disc brakes generally will out perform Vs in wet conditions. XT Vs are excellent brakes but tend to squeal a lot if not frequently adjusted to toe the pads in. Other advantages of discs - low maintenance - less force required to brake - still work when the wheel is not in an optimal shape One is a bit cheaper with Disc Hayes HFX-9 ; the other bike is a few bux more but is XT V brake. Unless the bikes are identical I wouldn't be choosing based on the brakes - frame & forks are much more expensive to replace. Parbs |
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Parbs wrote:
ODB wrote: Sorry, I meant V brakes vs rotors generally? Well set up V-brakes will give you as much stopping power as disc brakes. Disc brakes generally will out perform Vs in wet conditions. Agreed! XT Vs are excellent brakes but tend to squeal a lot if not frequently adjusted to toe the pads in. Frequently adjusted? Man, I adjust my brake pads ONCE, when I put new ones on. Never had a squeal. Other advantages of discs - low maintenance V-brakes are not exactly high maintenance - less force required to brake 'Tis a good thing. - still work when the wheel is not in an optimal shape Scary thought though is damage to disc system when riding requiring attention. V-brakes are easy to fix on the trail unless you bust a cable, but then I suppose you can steal a cable from elsewhere on your bike. Whereas I don't like the idea of carrying a bleed kit everywhere. One is a bit cheaper with Disc Hayes HFX-9 ; the other bike is a few bux more but is XT V brake. Unless the bikes are identical I wouldn't be choosing based on the brakes - frame & forks are much more expensive to replace. Excellent advice! Tam |
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Duracell Bunny wrote:
Well I have three bikes, one with old fashioned brakes, one with cable disc brakes, and one with hydraulic disc brakes. All of them work well for me, but: The old fashioned ones don't work in the wet The cable disc brake has let me down once on a long descent, the disc got too hot, was glowing red & no longer had any braking power at all. The hydraulic braked bike is new (three weeks) but hasn't failed me yet. I really like them, whatever others say But in the dry, in not extreme conditions, I'm happy to use any of them. I'm pretty sure your hydraulics would've overheated the disc anyway, given that it was overheating because of friction between the pads and the rotor. Main difference is the piston size/pressures for "force amplification" vs direct cable tension. You would've been getting the burnout factor without having to squeeze the levers so hard. You could've just shifted your weight back a bit (out of the saddle, bum back) and used both brakes Tam |
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Parbs Wrote: ODB wrote: Sorry, I meant V brakes vs rotors generally? Well set up V-brakes will give you as much stopping power as disc brakes. Disc brakes generally will out perform Vs in wet conditions. XT Vs are excellent brakes but tend to squeal a lot if not frequently adjusted to toe the pads in. Other advantages of discs - low maintenance - less force required to brake - still work when the wheel is not in an optimal shape One is a bit cheaper with Disc Hayes HFX-9 ; the other bike is a few bux more but is XT V brake. Unless the bikes are identical I wouldn't be choosing based on the brakes - frame & forks are much more expensive to replace. Parbs I recently (about 3-4 mths ago) replaced my shimano v brakes (deore) with avid arch rival v brakes. Apparently the archrivals are as good as a disc but I wouldn't know, not having used disc brakes. But they are excellent, do the job so well I only have to think about touching the lever. So I agree with Parbs - brakes are replaceable and cheaply so (I got the archrivals on sale, dirt cheap), frames and forks are more expensive. Also, which bike suits you better, feels better to ride????? -- warrwych |
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