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How to identify this older Peugeot road bike?
How can I identify this bike? I rescued it out of somebody's trash on garbage day, and it appears to be a pretty nice road bike (I was expecting a dime-a-dozen 1980s 10-speed). I can take detailed pictures with my digital camera if anybody thinks it would help. Keeping in mind that some components have probably been changed, here's everything I can list about it: "Peugeot" in blue letters over dark grey dithered fading-towards-rear checker-patterned boxes on top tube Dull silver or metallic grey general paint color Chrome-plated/polished fork "Super Vitus 980" "Special Double Butted" tubing Major tubing joints have reinforcement metal on them, looks almost like the sort of tubing connector where you slide all involved tubes into it; but it is obiously only a reinforcement due to it's thin gauge. Mavic Module E2 rim on rear Rigida 7000 rim on front, slightly wider; I suspect this rim was original equipment for both Peugeot Helico Matic rear hub, no label on front hub Mostly Peugeot components (drivetrain, brakes) Quick-release hubs "Laprade" seatpost which appears to be cast-aluminum Selle Italia RS saddle Large chainring has very fine logo printed, may say "Strongught" or something similar (I just looked with a magnifying glass, looks like "Stronglight") Downtube shifters; they have "S" stamped on face near the end "Mafac" stamped on brake levers (single-type/aero levers) 1926363, PF60, and 56 printed on a label on the underside of the bottom bracket 3 chainring, 5 cog Large round reflectors on front and back Found with old 700c x 25 x 90psi Michelins threaded-style stem Brakes each have a single cable that ends in a bracket which then has a seperate short cable whose ends attach to each side of brake (is this a "double pull" brake?) Thank you, Rick Onanian |
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How to identify this older Peugeot road bike?
Rick Onanian wrote in
news 1926363, PF60, and 56 printed on a label on the underside of the bottom bracket PF60 could be the model number. It doesn't sound familiar, but Peugeot used model numbers like that (the PX and UO series were pretty common). Don't know what year. |
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How to identify this older Peugeot road bike?
"Rick Onanian" wrote in message news How can I identify this bike? I rescued it out of somebody's trash on garbage day, and it appears to be a pretty nice road bike (I was expecting a dime-a-dozen 1980s 10-speed). I can take detailed pictures with my digital camera if anybody thinks it would help. Keeping in mind that some components have probably been changed, here's everything I can list about it: "Peugeot" in blue letters over dark grey dithered fading-towards-rear checker-patterned boxes on top tube Dull silver or metallic grey general paint color Chrome-plated/polished fork "Super Vitus 980" "Special Double Butted" tubing Major tubing joints have reinforcement metal on them, looks almost like the sort of tubing connector where you slide all involved tubes into it; but it is obiously only a reinforcement due to it's thin gauge. Sounds like a lugged frame, which would be the case with the good quality frame tubing. Yes, this probably is the "sort of tubing connector..." you described, with the tubes being brazed into the lugs by hand. Mavic Module E2 rim on rear Rigida 7000 rim on front, slightly wider; I suspect this rim was original equipment for both Peugeot Helico Matic rear hub, no label on front hub Mostly Peugeot components (drivetrain, brakes) Quick-release hubs "Laprade" seatpost which appears to be cast-aluminum Selle Italia RS saddle Large chainring has very fine logo printed, may say "Strongught" or something similar (I just looked with a magnifying glass, looks like "Stronglight") Stronglight is a very well known French component maker, still doing business in Europe. Good but not great components, Peugeot put a lot of Stronglight stuff on their higher priced offerings. Downtube shifters; they have "S" stamped on face near the end Simplex? French company known for truly wretched plastic derailleurs, although some of their downtube shifters were highly regarded. Original equipment on lots of Peugeots. "Mafac" stamped on brake levers (single-type/aero levers) 1926363, PF60, and 56 printed on a label on the underside of the bottom bracket 56 cm seat tube? 3 chainring, 5 cog By the early to mid '80s, just about every decent bike had 6 cogs in back. Large round reflectors on front and back Required on bikes sold in US Found with old 700c x 25 x 90psi Michelins threaded-style stem Brakes each have a single cable that ends in a bracket which then has a seperate short cable whose ends attach to each side of brake (is this a "double pull" brake?) This sounds like a "center-pull" brake, probably made by Mafac like the brake levers. Unbelievably noisy. -- mark |
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How to identify this older Peugeot road bike?
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:45:31 GMT, mark
wrote: Major tubing joints have reinforcement metal on them, looks almost like sort of tubing connector where you slide all involved tubes into it; but is obiously only a reinforcement due to it's thin gauge. Sounds like a lugged frame, which would be the case with the good quality frame tubing. Yes, this probably is the "sort of tubing connector..." you described, with the tubes being brazed into the lugs by hand. I looked up "lugged" and agree, based on the description found at http://www.winternet.com/~rtandems/const.html of lugged frames. Downtube shifters; they have "S" stamped on face near the end Simplex? French company known for truly wretched plastic derailleurs, although some of their downtube shifters were highly regarded. Original equipment on lots of Peugeots. Confirmed, the "S" on them is the Simplex logo with a little line through it. These shifters are not plastic (that would be terrible!). 1926363, PF60, and 56 printed on a label on the underside of the bottom bracket 56 cm seat tube? Hmm...Measured from inside of joint @ BB to inside of joint at top tube, 52cm. 3 chainring, 5 cog By the early to mid '80s, just about every decent bike had 6 cogs in back. That helps, probably from 70s then. Brakes each have a single cable that ends in a bracket which then has a seperate short cable whose ends attach to each side of brake (is this a "double pull" brake?) This sounds like a "center-pull" brake, probably made by Mafac like the brake levers. Unbelievably noisy. Indeed, like this: http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...phui-8C:www.c- able.ne.jp/~toru35/raleigh/centerpull.jpg but not like this: http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...centerpull.gif How is the difference expressed between those two types, both apparently called center pull? Center pull canti vs. center pull V? Additional info: Atax Stem "Atax" "Franco Italia D352" (both stamped on left side near center) "Guidons Philippe" (stamped on right near center) drop handlebars Spidel Mallard QR skewers Thank you, Rick |
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How to identify this older Peugeot road bike?
"Rick Onanian" wrote in message
news 56 cm seat tube? Hmm...Measured from inside of joint @ BB to inside of joint at top tube, 52cm. Measurements of seat tube length are usually performed from the center of the BB to either the top of the seat tube or the center of the top tube where it meets the seat tube. http://www.coloradocyclist.com/BikeF...dimensions.cfm This sounds like a "center-pull" brake, probably made by Mafac like the brake levers. Unbelievably noisy. Indeed, like this: http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...phui-8C:www.c- able.ne.jp/~toru35/raleigh/centerpull.jpg but not like this: http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...in.com/graphic s/centerpull.gif How is the difference expressed between those two types, both apparently called center pull? Center pull canti vs. center pull V? Simple. Cantilever brakes (your second image) are called cantilever brakes or cantis. Center-pulls are center-pulls. Whoever posted the second image called cantis centerpulls erroneously. Also, "V" brakes are a different entity all together. They mount on the same brake bosses as cantis, but use a linear-pull mechanism (thus their also being called linear pull brakes). Here's picture for you: http://bicycleaustin.info/graphics/vbrakes.jpg By the way, if you read the website where those images came from, you will see some advice on brakes that is also suspect. While V-brakes are well known for their stopping power, they are not necessarily the best solution. Their website states that side-pull brakes are lower quality and aren't used much any more. This is true for mountain bikes, but not true for road bikes. The side-pulls on my road bike are every bit as powerful as the v-brakes on my mountain bike. -Buck |
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How to identify this older Peugeot road bike?
"Rick Onanian" t wrote Additional info: Atax Stem "Atax" "Franco Italia D352" (both stamped on left side near center) "Guidons Philippe" (stamped on right near center) drop handlebars Spidel Mallard QR skewers Thank you, Rick My '78 or '79 PX-10 had identical markings on the handlebars (this was Peugeot's entry-level racing bike in the '60s and '70s), and Maillard hubs and freewheel. Your bike sounds like one of Peugeot's higher quality touring bikes of the period (hence the triple chainring), with high quality frame tubing, and good to average components. -- mark |
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How to identify this older Peugeot road bike? OR Identifying brake types
"Rick Onanian" wrote in message
news In the picture http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...in.com/graphic s/centerpull.gif (the second picture I posted) these look on to be similar construction to V brakes, which is why I thought they were just a different type of V's. So, that picture is of "cantis", and the first picture (as on the Peugeot) are "center pulls", and my Giant has "side-pulls" (and of course, my MTB has V's). Summary (correct me if I'm wrong): Cantis and V's mount one piece to each side of the wheel and are pulled by the cable inward Center pulls and side pulls mount to a single bolt centered above the wheel and both sides pivot on that bolt Cantis and center-pulls share similar cable-operations where a cable between the two sides is pulled in it's center by the brake lever's cable V's and side-pulls each have their own cable operation/movement. Looks like you have it straight. You might also like to see Sheldon's primer on cantilever brakes (as well as v-brakes): http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html -Buck |
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