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On 2017-07-31 13:09, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:53:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-29 17:43, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote: Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: : Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Jay's a camel. Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I can haul gallons of water on a day ride. Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride. http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike". Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the upper end of the water requirement scale. So there. Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in Portland :-) There used to be three Performance stores in Portand, but they closed the one downtown -- the only one close to my work or home. So, reading that prescription, do I have to carry eight bottles for a four hour ride? Certainly so in hot weather. If you carry much less and have no re-fill options you could be causing damage to your body. ... Wow, I better start buying cages and hose clamps. Or I could just stop every hour and fill up my bottles -- assuming I needed all that fluid. Hmmmmmm. I need that much fluid when it's around 100F out there like right now. Yesterday's ride was only 20mi in hilly terrain and I consumed about 70oz of water plys 16oz of electrolyte. Ok, plus two pints at a brewpub :-) I did a 30 mile loop this afternoon -- nothing terrible because I'm expecting to get throttled by some friends tomorrow. Temperature was low-mid 80s -- blue skies, low wind. A gorgeous day. I went through one 21oz bottle, and there is still some water sloshing around in the bottle. Unless you rode really slowly that wasn't healthy even without much sun. Well, I felt good enough to go out yesterday for a 55 mile ride with about 20 miles of steady or rolling hills, during which time I drank one 24oz bottle of Hammer Heed and a quarter of a 21oz bottle of water -- plus a Cliff Bar. I went early and temperatures were mild, and except for the return trip down HWY 30, I was often under tree cover. http://www.sahdpdx.com/wp-content/up...highway_30.jpg That looks like an easy ride. Really wide shoulder and all. I had a similar one on the way home yesterday. https://goo.gl/maps/k2LVKpS6GLs The constant din of cars is annoying but I have an MP3 player mounted to the steerer tube that is (somewhat) able to drown that out. You complain about your drivers, I was on this road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fzwm4m3ZFI (although it was sunny and nice). Yikes! That's how our crotch rocket guys ride. Many assume there will never be anything behind a curve. Until there is ... One of my MTB buddy was a first responder and he told me some gruesome stories about the aftermath. ... It was pretty empty early morning, so no urban race-car drivers. First climb of the day is four miles of mostly gravel. http://www.rubbertotheroad.com/ride-...de_36/36_3.jpg It's like being in the Hobbit kingdom. If it were blistering hot (i.e. Thursday is predicted to be 107), I would have consumed much more water, and I would have stopped to refill. The center section of the ride doesn't have anywhere to stop (unless I tapped someone's hosebib), but there are spots elsewhere, and the last eight miles home are through the city -- basically my commute route plus a few miles. If I were so inclined, I could go to a half-dozen brew pubs, including the new Breakside in NW. Their IPA is first-rate. However, I prefer not to ride home after drinking beer. I usually have one on the way back or somewhere near the destination. No more growlers though since I now brew my own. I felt way better than I should have coming home, I think because of the HEED -- and a tail wind. Drinking for recovery is just as important as drinking on the bike, so I had a beer after getting home -- and then mowed the lawn. That was hard! I drank 120oz of water! How does Hammer Heed stack up against Ultima Replenisher? That's what I use so far, the orange version of it. The lemon version tastes too much like a diet soda IMHO. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 11:56:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-31 11:37, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 2:00:33 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Snipped Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike". Snipped It's not my equation, it is recommended by sports medicine guys and they know a thing or two about dehydration. I assume they calculated for heavy riding where you pump out close to as much as your body will give at the current weather conditions. Note they say "per hour", not "per xx miles". The same sports medicine guys who used to recomend that runners and other athletes drink so much water during exercise that some runners and athletes died of hyponatremia or water intoxication. Or are those sports medicine guys getting a kickback from the energy drink people? Performance Bike getting kickbacks from energy drink people? Sometimes I wonder just what you are smoking. Well it's now legal in many states. |
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On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 2:03:07 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-31 13:09, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:53:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-29 17:43, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote: Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: : Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Jay's a camel. Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I can haul gallons of water on a day ride. Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride. http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike". Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the upper end of the water requirement scale. So there. Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in Portland :-) There used to be three Performance stores in Portand, but they closed the one downtown -- the only one close to my work or home. So, reading that prescription, do I have to carry eight bottles for a four hour ride? Certainly so in hot weather. If you carry much less and have no re-fill options you could be causing damage to your body. ... Wow, I better start buying cages and hose clamps. Or I could just stop every hour and fill up my bottles -- assuming I needed all that fluid. Hmmmmmm. I need that much fluid when it's around 100F out there like right now. Yesterday's ride was only 20mi in hilly terrain and I consumed about 70oz of water plys 16oz of electrolyte. Ok, plus two pints at a brewpub :-) I did a 30 mile loop this afternoon -- nothing terrible because I'm expecting to get throttled by some friends tomorrow. Temperature was low-mid 80s -- blue skies, low wind. A gorgeous day. I went through one 21oz bottle, and there is still some water sloshing around in the bottle. Unless you rode really slowly that wasn't healthy even without much sun. Well, I felt good enough to go out yesterday for a 55 mile ride with about 20 miles of steady or rolling hills, during which time I drank one 24oz bottle of Hammer Heed and a quarter of a 21oz bottle of water -- plus a Cliff Bar. I went early and temperatures were mild, and except for the return trip down HWY 30, I was often under tree cover. http://www.sahdpdx.com/wp-content/up...highway_30.jpg That looks like an easy ride. Really wide shoulder and all. I had a similar one on the way home yesterday. https://goo.gl/maps/k2LVKpS6GLs The constant din of cars is annoying but I have an MP3 player mounted to the steerer tube that is (somewhat) able to drown that out. You complain about your drivers, I was on this road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fzwm4m3ZFI (although it was sunny and nice). Yikes! That's how our crotch rocket guys ride. Many assume there will never be anything behind a curve. Until there is ... One of my MTB buddy was a first responder and he told me some gruesome stories about the aftermath. ... It was pretty empty early morning, so no urban race-car drivers. First climb of the day is four miles of mostly gravel. http://www.rubbertotheroad.com/ride-...de_36/36_3.jpg It's like being in the Hobbit kingdom. If it were blistering hot (i.e. Thursday is predicted to be 107), I would have consumed much more water, and I would have stopped to refill. The center section of the ride doesn't have anywhere to stop (unless I tapped someone's hosebib), but there are spots elsewhere, and the last eight miles home are through the city -- basically my commute route plus a few miles. If I were so inclined, I could go to a half-dozen brew pubs, including the new Breakside in NW. Their IPA is first-rate. However, I prefer not to ride home after drinking beer. I usually have one on the way back or somewhere near the destination. No more growlers though since I now brew my own. I felt way better than I should have coming home, I think because of the HEED -- and a tail wind. Drinking for recovery is just as important as drinking on the bike, so I had a beer after getting home -- and then mowed the lawn. That was hard! I drank 120oz of water! How does Hammer Heed stack up against Ultima Replenisher? That's what I use so far, the orange version of it. The lemon version tastes too much like a diet soda IMHO. Who knew: http://www.texascenterwellness.com/w...rolyte-drinks/ I try stuff, and if it gives me cramps or tastes like sh**, I stop buying it. I do prefer GU to Cliff Shots, but I've never tried the Hammer gel and have few other strong preferences when it comes to magical bike potions. The Hammer Heed makes me feel better . . . I think. It could have been the left-over Mexican from the night before. Who knows. I have a friend (old chick enduro national champion) who swears by this https://www.infinitnutrition.us/ As long as it isn't total snake oil, it's basically just pick something you like. The Hammer orange flavor is mild and tastes like creamsicles. Fruit punch anything should be avoided. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 2017-07-31 14:19, wrote:
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 11:56:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-31 11:37, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 2:00:33 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Snipped Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike". Snipped It's not my equation, it is recommended by sports medicine guys and they know a thing or two about dehydration. I assume they calculated for heavy riding where you pump out close to as much as your body will give at the current weather conditions. Note they say "per hour", not "per xx miles". The same sports medicine guys who used to recomend that runners and other athletes drink so much water during exercise that some runners and athletes died of hyponatremia or water intoxication. Or are those sports medicine guys getting a kickback from the energy drink people? Performance Bike getting kickbacks from energy drink people? Sometimes I wonder just what you are smoking. Well it's now legal in many states. After what a driver in WA state told me, that legalization dropped my confidence when riding on roads. "It was cool, man! I could ride all the way across two states with no sleep, and the center line kinda flew over the hood of the car!" -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 2:03:07 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-31 13:09, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:53:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-29 17:43, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote: Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Jay's a camel. Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I can haul gallons of water on a day ride. Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride. http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike". Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the upper end of the water requirement scale. So there. Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in Portland :-) There used to be three Performance stores in Portand, but they closed the one downtown -- the only one close to my work or home. So, reading that prescription, do I have to carry eight bottles for a four hour ride? Certainly so in hot weather. If you carry much less and have no re-fill options you could be causing damage to your body. ... Wow, I better start buying cages and hose clamps. Or I could just stop every hour and fill up my bottles -- assuming I needed all that fluid. Hmmmmmm. I need that much fluid when it's around 100F out there like right now. Yesterday's ride was only 20mi in hilly terrain and I consumed about 70oz of water plys 16oz of electrolyte. Ok, plus two pints at a brewpub :-) I did a 30 mile loop this afternoon -- nothing terrible because I'm expecting to get throttled by some friends tomorrow. Temperature was low-mid 80s -- blue skies, low wind. A gorgeous day. I went through one 21oz bottle, and there is still some water sloshing around in the bottle. Unless you rode really slowly that wasn't healthy even without much sun. Well, I felt good enough to go out yesterday for a 55 mile ride with about 20 miles of steady or rolling hills, during which time I drank one 24oz bottle of Hammer Heed and a quarter of a 21oz bottle of water -- plus a Cliff Bar. I went early and temperatures were mild, and except for the return trip down HWY 30, I was often under tree cover. http://www.sahdpdx.com/wp-content/up...highway_30.jpg That looks like an easy ride. Really wide shoulder and all. I had a similar one on the way home yesterday. https://goo.gl/maps/k2LVKpS6GLs The constant din of cars is annoying but I have an MP3 player mounted to the steerer tube that is (somewhat) able to drown that out. You complain about your drivers, I was on this road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v_zwm4m3ZFI (although it was sunny and nice). Yikes! That's how our crotch rocket guys ride. Many assume there will never be anything behind a curve. Until there is ... One of my MTB buddy was a first responder and he told me some gruesome stories about the aftermath. ... It was pretty empty early morning, so no urban race-car drivers. First climb of the day is four miles of mostly gravel. http://www.rubbertotheroad.com/ride-...de_36/36_3.jpg It's like being in the Hobbit kingdom. If it were blistering hot (i.e. Thursday is predicted to be 107), I would have consumed much more water, and I would have stopped to refill. The center section of the ride doesn't have anywhere to stop (unless I tapped someone's hosebib), but there are spots elsewhere, and the last eight miles home are through the city -- basically my commute route plus a few miles. If I were so inclined, I could go to a half-dozen brew pubs, including the new Breakside in NW. Their IPA is first-rate. However, I prefer not to ride home after drinking beer. I usually have one on the way back or somewhere near the destination. No more growlers though since I now brew my own. I felt way better than I should have coming home, I think because of the HEED -- and a tail wind. Drinking for recovery is just as important as drinking on the bike, so I had a beer after getting home -- and then mowed the lawn. That was hard! I drank 120oz of water! How does Hammer Heed stack up against Ultima Replenisher? That's what I use so far, the orange version of it. The lemon version tastes too much like a diet soda IMHO. Who knew: http://www.texascenterwellness.com/w...rolyte-drinks/ I try stuff, and if it gives me cramps or tastes like sh**, I stop buying it. I do prefer GU to Cliff Shots, but I've never tried the Hammer gel and have few other strong preferences when it comes to magical bike potions. The Hammer Heed makes me feel better . . . I think. It could have been the left-over Mexican from the night before. Who knows. I have a friend (old chick enduro national champion) who swears by this https://www.infinitnutrition.us/ As long as it isn't total snake oil, it's basically just pick something you like. The Hammer orange flavor is mild and tastes like creamsicles. Fruit punch anything should be avoided. Hammer Heed gets a bit expensive so I'm trying these Nuun tablets. Easier to deal with and no sugar. I don't need the sugar with the cliff shots I use. I usually find the gu too much trouble but I just did this Pierre Lavoie charity ride here and they were giving out these local made maple syrup based gu packets. Pretty good stuff. Plus they gave us 2 beers with the lunch after the ride. Lol. They know marketing... -- duane |
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On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 2:48:24 PM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 2:03:07 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-31 13:09, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:53:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-29 17:43, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote: Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Jay's a camel. Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I can haul gallons of water on a day ride. Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride. http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike". Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the upper end of the water requirement scale. So there. Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in Portland :-) There used to be three Performance stores in Portand, but they closed the one downtown -- the only one close to my work or home. So, reading that prescription, do I have to carry eight bottles for a four hour ride? Certainly so in hot weather. If you carry much less and have no re-fill options you could be causing damage to your body. ... Wow, I better start buying cages and hose clamps. Or I could just stop every hour and fill up my bottles -- assuming I needed all that fluid. Hmmmmmm. I need that much fluid when it's around 100F out there like right now. Yesterday's ride was only 20mi in hilly terrain and I consumed about 70oz of water plys 16oz of electrolyte. Ok, plus two pints at a brewpub :-) I did a 30 mile loop this afternoon -- nothing terrible because I'm expecting to get throttled by some friends tomorrow. Temperature was low-mid 80s -- blue skies, low wind. A gorgeous day. I went through one 21oz bottle, and there is still some water sloshing around in the bottle. Unless you rode really slowly that wasn't healthy even without much sun. Well, I felt good enough to go out yesterday for a 55 mile ride with about 20 miles of steady or rolling hills, during which time I drank one 24oz bottle of Hammer Heed and a quarter of a 21oz bottle of water -- plus a Cliff Bar. I went early and temperatures were mild, and except for the return trip down HWY 30, I was often under tree cover. http://www.sahdpdx.com/wp-content/up...highway_30.jpg That looks like an easy ride. Really wide shoulder and all. I had a similar one on the way home yesterday. https://goo.gl/maps/k2LVKpS6GLs The constant din of cars is annoying but I have an MP3 player mounted to the steerer tube that is (somewhat) able to drown that out. You complain about your drivers, I was on this road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v_zwm4m3ZFI (although it was sunny and nice). Yikes! That's how our crotch rocket guys ride. Many assume there will never be anything behind a curve. Until there is ... One of my MTB buddy was a first responder and he told me some gruesome stories about the aftermath. ... It was pretty empty early morning, so no urban race-car drivers. First climb of the day is four miles of mostly gravel. http://www.rubbertotheroad.com/ride-...de_36/36_3.jpg It's like being in the Hobbit kingdom. If it were blistering hot (i.e. Thursday is predicted to be 107), I would have consumed much more water, and I would have stopped to refill. The center section of the ride doesn't have anywhere to stop (unless I tapped someone's hosebib), but there are spots elsewhere, and the last eight miles home are through the city -- basically my commute route plus a few miles. If I were so inclined, I could go to a half-dozen brew pubs, including the new Breakside in NW. Their IPA is first-rate. However, I prefer not to ride home after drinking beer. I usually have one on the way back or somewhere near the destination. No more growlers though since I now brew my own. I felt way better than I should have coming home, I think because of the HEED -- and a tail wind. Drinking for recovery is just as important as drinking on the bike, so I had a beer after getting home -- and then mowed the lawn. That was hard! I drank 120oz of water! How does Hammer Heed stack up against Ultima Replenisher? That's what I use so far, the orange version of it. The lemon version tastes too much like a diet soda IMHO. Who knew: http://www.texascenterwellness.com/w...rolyte-drinks/ I try stuff, and if it gives me cramps or tastes like sh**, I stop buying it. I do prefer GU to Cliff Shots, but I've never tried the Hammer gel and have few other strong preferences when it comes to magical bike potions. The Hammer Heed makes me feel better . . . I think. It could have been the left-over Mexican from the night before. Who knows. I have a friend (old chick enduro national champion) who swears by this https://www.infinitnutrition.us/ As long as it isn't total snake oil, it's basically just pick something you like. The Hammer orange flavor is mild and tastes like creamsicles. Fruit punch anything should be avoided. Hammer Heed gets a bit expensive so I'm trying these Nuun tablets. Easier to deal with and no sugar. I don't need the sugar with the cliff shots I use. I usually find the gu too much trouble but I just did this Pierre Lavoie charity ride here and they were giving out these local made maple syrup based gu packets. Pretty good stuff. Plus they gave us 2 beers with the lunch after the ride. Lol. They know marketing... Try Red Bull. That is the only stuff I've tried that I can actually feel getting into my system and improving my performance. The SMALL CAN. |
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On 2017-07-31 14:44, Duane wrote:
jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 2:03:07 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-31 13:09, jbeattie wrote: Somehow my news server dropped Jay's response. No idea why. I felt way better than I should have coming home, I think because of the HEED -- and a tail wind. Drinking for recovery is just as important as drinking on the bike, so I had a beer after getting home -- and then mowed the lawn. That was hard! I drank 120oz of water! How does Hammer Heed stack up against Ultima Replenisher? That's what I use so far, the orange version of it. The lemon version tastes too much like a diet soda IMHO. Who knew: http://www.texascenterwellness.com/w...rolyte-drinks/ That's a pretty good endorsement. I try stuff, and if it gives me cramps or tastes like sh**, I stop buying it. I do prefer GU to Cliff Shots, but I've never tried the Hammer gel and have few other strong preferences when it comes to magical bike potions. The Hammer Heed makes me feel better . . . I think. It could have been the left-over Mexican from the night before. Who knows. My stomach feel on rides is usually related to the quantity of blackberries I found and ate. The ones on MTB trails often come in a month later so that stretches the time of availability. They provide a lot of fructose as well. I have a friend (old chick enduro national champion) who swears by this https://www.infinitnutrition.us/ As long as it isn't total snake oil, it's basically just pick something you like. Wow, create your own custom mix. Very fancy. The Hammer orange flavor is mild and tastes like creamsicles. Fruit punch anything should be avoided. Hammer Heed gets a bit expensive so I'm trying these Nuun tablets. Easier to deal with and no sugar. I don't need the sugar with the cliff shots I use. For Ultima I pay about $30 for 90 servings worth of powder. I use one serving per 17oz water bottle (re-used purified water bottles from the store). http://www.ultimareplenisher.com/pro...ving-canister/ I used to get the occasional "almost cramp" during hard MTB rides. Where I felt it coming up, stopped, massaged, went back into the saddle. Happens no more and I can now ride through. I still get a very occasional middle of the night leg cramp, the kind where you almost want to scream. But that's now down from 20/year to 2-3/year. For my wife who doesn't ride but had the occasional leg muscle cramp it also helped, her cramps went almost completely away. I usually find the gu too much trouble but I just did this Pierre Lavoie charity ride here and they were giving out these local made maple syrup based gu packets. Pretty good stuff. My sister uses goo packets on rides as well and often tries to convince me. I tried it a few times but didn't like it. I carry home-made "power bars" that are non-sweet. They have bacon, nuts and all kinds of hearty stuff in there. A lot of work for my wife to make but worth it. On rides longer than 4-5h I carry sandwiches made with home-baked bread. The dark crunchy stuff, similar to European farmer's bread. ... Plus they gave us 2 beers with the lunch after the ride. Lol. They know marketing... I don't like competition events but that would be my kind of ride! Has to be the good stuff though, not any cheap beer brand. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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