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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
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A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. Looks like metal fatigue. Have any of you seen this before? Other than the durability issue these seem to be nice cages. Are there any other stainless steel cages that are more durable? Thanks, Steve |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
Steve Sr. wrote:
Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. Looks like metal fatigue. Have any of you seen this before? Other than the durability issue these seem to be nice cages. Are there any other stainless steel cages that are more durable? Nitto: "http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/waterbottles_and_cages#product=20-030" Elite: "http://www.bikesomewhere.com/bikesomewhere.cfm/product/293/1996/5780?g=1" |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
On Feb 25, 9:33*pm, Steve Sr. wrote:
Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. snip Did you email (no affiliation) kingcage yet? These are handmade, and I'll bet you a nickel that the manufacturer will stand behind them. I've had a pair for about 5 years. Work great. Have you tried their titanium tire levers? The greatest -- they work exceptionally well on tight tires. Best, Larry |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
On Feb 25, 7:33*pm, Steve Sr. wrote:
Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. Looks like metal fatigue. Have any of you seen this before? Other than the durability issue these seem to be nice cages. Are there any other stainless steel cages that are more durable? Thanks, Steve Dear Steve, Aluminum, failures at the weld after ~200 km: http://www.m-gineering.nl/crack.htm Cheers, Carl Fogel |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
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On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. Looks like metal fatigue. Have any of you seen this before? Other than the durability issue these seem to be nice cages. Are there any other stainless steel cages that are more durable? Thanks, Steve Dear Steve, Aluminum, failures at the weld after ~200 km: http://www.m-gineering.nl/crack.htm Cheers, Carl Fogel That's a completely different situation: cheap Chinese/Taiwanese product, different material |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
LF wrote:
On Feb 25, 9:33�pm, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. snip Did you email (no affiliation) kingcage yet? These are handmade, and I'll bet you a nickel that the manufacturer will stand behind them. I've had a pair for about 5 years. Work great. Have you tried their titanium tire levers? The greatest -- they work exceptionally well on tight tires. Best, Larry well, /my/ king cages were never quite straight. if the op's were manufactured with the same attention to detail, i'm not sure having the manufacturer replace them with more of the same is going to do much long term good. otoh, sometimes a cheaper option can work well: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4342 these [mtb] cages are wider diameter tube and therefore stronger than typical road designs. |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
Carl Sundquist wrote:
wrote: On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. Looks like metal fatigue. Have any of you seen this before? Other than the durability issue these seem to be nice cages. Are there any other stainless steel cages that are more durable? Thanks, Steve Dear Steve, Aluminum, failures at the weld after ~200 km: http://www.m-gineering.nl/crack.htm Cheers, Carl Fogel That's a completely different situation: cheap Chinese/Taiwanese product, different material actually, it's completely analogous. if the tubes are not formed correctly so there's residual stress within the structure, and the welds are bad, it's going to break regardless of whether it's stainless steel /or/ aluminum. |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
On Feb 25, 8:33 pm, Steve Sr. wrote:
Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. Looks like metal fatigue. Have any of you seen this before? Other than the durability issue these seem to be nice cages. Are there any other stainless steel cages that are more durable? Sounds like a freak break. Get it warranteed. That said, a trad cage does put more stress on the bottom weld if the bottle fit is tight compared to something like this: http://www.velo-orange.com/voretrocage.html Which is what I've got on the roadie. The tour bike has el cheap Planet bike stuff in powder aluminum. $5 and tough. |
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King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:25:28 -0600, Carl Sundquist
wrote: wrote: On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same manner. Looks like metal fatigue. Have any of you seen this before? Other than the durability issue these seem to be nice cages. Are there any other stainless steel cages that are more durable? Thanks, Steve Dear Steve, Aluminum, failures at the weld after ~200 km: http://www.m-gineering.nl/crack.htm Cheers, Carl Fogel That's a completely different situation: cheap Chinese/Taiwanese product, different material Dear Carl, Someone has defaced my copy of "The Reverse of the Medal," where the Royal Navy officers, Jack and Mowett, explain to the surgeon and his clerical assistant, Stephen and Martin, the difference between men-of-war and privateers: "But is not a water-bottle-holder a bottle-cage?" asked Stephen. Jack and Mowett pursed their lips and looked disapproving. "Why," said Jack after a moment, "I suppose strictly speaking you could call them bottle-cages, aluminum bottle-cages; but no one ever does." "Some say bidons," observed Mowett. "It sounds a little better." "I know nothing whatsoever about water-bottle-holders," said Martin. "Why," said Jack, "they are metal frames made out of aluminum in the Far East. They can be used to hold bottles filled with water by riders who don't appreciate the advantages of a bottle-cage. They often work well, but cannot compare with a steel bottle-cage." "So it is very much like a bottle-cage altogether, except that it is made out of aluminum?" "Oh, no," said Jack. "It is quite different." "It is not at all the same," said Mowett. "I have often heard water-bottle-holders referred to with strong reprobation," remarked Stephen. "As, 'Aluminum dog of a water-bottle-holder, go your ways.' It is certainly a term of reproach." "Forgive me if I am obtuse," said Martin, "but if both steel and aluminum frames can hold water containers, I cannot see the distinction." "Oh, it is not at all the same," said Jack. "No, no," said Mowett. "It is quite different." "You are to consider, my dear sir," said Stephen, "that the water-bottle-holder is merely concerned with carrying water. Whereas the bottle-cage is chiefly concerned with weight and wind drag and their bottles are often flung aside near the finish line." Cheers, Carl Fogel |
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