"European Mobility Week "

On 13 Sep, 07:06, PeterG wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:56*am, Doug wrote:

"...The overall aim of the European Mobility Week campaign is to
encourage public awareness of the need to act against pollution caused
by the increase in motorised traffic in the urban environment. In
fact, it is not just a question of fighting atmospheric pollution or
noise but also of improving the quality of urban life.

Accordingly, that operation is centred on three types of measures,
designed to:

* * * encourage the use of alternative forms of transport and travel
other than private cars,

OK, I'll use the van

* * * raise awareness and inform city-dwellers of what is at stake so
far as concerns long-term mobility in towns and the risks connected
with pollution,

OK I'll use the bus, if there were one.

* * * show the town in another light thanks in particular to reduced
motorised traffic within restricted areas..."

OK, I'll use public transport, which doesn't exiat.

Ever considered walking or cycling instead? Or maybe not traveling at
all for once? After all, it is only one day a year.


Mohttp://www.mobilityweek.eu/-Introduc...tp://www.mobil......


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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:

Ever considered walking or cycling instead? Or maybe not traveling at
all for once? After all, it is only one day a year.

So this European "week" only lasts one day and the "mobility" it
propounds is staying at home for the day?

Eurogreenwash at its finest.

On 14 Sep, 16:31, Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:

Ever considered walking or cycling instead? Or maybe not traveling at
all for once? After all, it is only one day a year.

So this European *"week" only lasts one day and the "mobility" it
propounds is staying at home for the day?

Eurogreenwash at its finest.

You are confusing Mobility Week with Carfree Day. You don't have to
stay at home as there are numerous alternatives to car travel. I was
assuming though that, like most motorists, he was unaccustomed to
using those alternatives and would not find it particularly easy due
to the unfamiliarity. It is surprising how quickly lack of use of
facilities and forgetfulness makes that use more difficult.

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Doug wrote:
On 14 Sep, 16:31, Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:

Ever considered walking or cycling instead? Or maybe not traveling
at all for once? After all, it is only one day a year.

So this European "week" only lasts one day and the "mobility" it
propounds is staying at home for the day?

Eurogreenwash at its finest.

You are confusing Mobility Week with Carfree Day. You don't have to
stay at home as there are numerous alternatives to car travel. I was
assuming though that, like most motorists, he was unaccustomed to
using those alternatives and would not find it particularly easy due
to the unfamiliarity. It is surprising how quickly lack of use of
facilities and forgetfulness makes that use more difficult.

-- .
World Carfree Network.
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

A couple of years ago I needed to make a journey of about 30 miles NOT by
car. So I walked 2 miles to the railway station, eventually worked out
(with help from an equally confused railway employee) how to get an
appropriate ticket from a machine. Waited about ten minutes for a train,
got off at an underground station, could not find which platform I needed
from the signs and agin had to ask someone (vast numbers of slippery
stairs), waited half an hour for a filthy train, found it was going the
wrong way, and had to get off and go the opposite way (many more stairs and
walking). Got off, got another train (more stairs), got off (more stairs),
searched the bus station for the right bus, eventually found it and then had
to stand to my destination and was let off at the exact place I needed.
Journey time about two hours and cost about ten pounds, by car I could have
driven it in 40 minutes door to door, not walked miles and traversed so many
stairs, not been breathed over by coughing lowlifes, not had to endure the
leakage from headphones or listened to ther people's phone conversations in
the quiet carriages, etc. etc. and the direct fuel cost would have been
about 5 pounds in limousine comfort, or less than three in the prius.

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:39:38 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:

On 14 Sep, 16:31, Peter Parry wrote:

So this European *"week" only lasts one day and the "mobility" it
propounds is staying at home for the day?

Eurogreenwash at its finest.

You are confusing Mobility Week with Carfree Day.

I'm not, _you_ were going on about "The overall aim of the European
Mobility Week campaign" , no mention of carfree day which appears to
be entirely different and not run by a group of donkey supporting
anarchists "There is currently no process for the network approving
new projects, meaning that any international project on the carfree
theme carried out by one or more ... individuals) can be considered a
network project ". Such projects seem to include "Top Tips for
Wrecking Roadbuilding" .

You don't have to
stay at home as there are numerous alternatives to car travel.

I was
assuming though that, like most motorists, he was unaccustomed to
using those alternatives and would not find it particularly easy due
to the unfamiliarity. It is surprising how quickly lack of use of
facilities and forgetfulness makes that use more difficult.

Well around here we have a good rail and bus network. Cycling, as in
most of the UK, is and always will be, minimal because of these nasty
things called hills. On a fairly typical day I might go to two or
three sites on different industrial areas. By car each journey takes
about 20 minutes.

By bus and train each journey takes about 60 minutes actually on the
vehicles. However, despite fleets of near empty buses carrying two
pensioners each, the timing of the buses and trains is such that while
the actual traveling time takes only three times as long as by car the
overall journey time is typically two to three hours. That means that
on carfree day, assuming I can't borrow a donkey, I could spend all
day traveling and none of it doing any work.

Now that may suit the typical eco-activist living off benefits
payments and agonising about the green credentials of their little
bags of weed cultivated under 20 high intensity lamps using stolen
electricity but it is a tad difficult for those who have to work to
generate the money to pay said eco-activists benefits cheque.

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:18:17 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Doug wrote:
On 14 Sep, 16:31, Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:

Ever considered walking or cycling instead? Or maybe not traveling
at all for once? After all, it is only one day a year.

So this European "week" only lasts one day and the "mobility" it
propounds is staying at home for the day?

Eurogreenwash at its finest.

You are confusing Mobility Week with Carfree Day. You don't have to
stay at home as there are numerous alternatives to car travel. I was
assuming though that, like most motorists, he was unaccustomed to
using those alternatives and would not find it particularly easy due
to the unfamiliarity. It is surprising how quickly lack of use of
facilities and forgetfulness makes that use more difficult.

-- .
World Carfree Network.
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

A couple of years ago I needed to make a journey of about 30 miles NOT by
car. So I walked 2 miles to the railway station, eventually worked out
(with help from an equally confused railway employee) how to get an
appropriate ticket from a machine. Waited about ten minutes for a train,
got off at an underground station, could not find which platform I needed
from the signs and agin had to ask someone (vast numbers of slippery
stairs), waited half an hour for a filthy train, found it was going the
wrong way, and had to get off and go the opposite way (many more stairs and
walking). Got off, got another train (more stairs), got off (more stairs),
searched the bus station for the right bus, eventually found it and then had
to stand to my destination and was let off at the exact place I needed.
Journey time about two hours and cost about ten pounds, by car I could have
driven it in 40 minutes door to door, not walked miles and traversed so many
stairs, not been breathed over by coughing lowlifes, not had to endure the
leakage from headphones or listened to ther people's phone conversations in
the quiet carriages, etc. etc. and the direct fuel cost would have been
about 5 pounds in limousine comfort, or less than three in the prius.

You have described, far better than I ever could, why motoring taxes
are too low, and why they need to rise to subsidise public transport
infrastructure.

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:35:10 +0100, Tom Crispin
wrote:

You have described, far better than I ever could, why motoring taxes
are too low, and why they need to rise to subsidise public transport
infrastructure.

The good socialist response - reduce everyone (except the ruling class
of course) to the lowest possible centrally controlled standard of
mediocrity and allow them to travel only where and when the state
permits.

On 15/09/2010 18:56, Peter Parry wrote:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:35:10 +0100, Tom Crispin
wrote:

You have described, far better than I ever could, why motoring taxes
are too low, and why they need to rise to subsidise public transport
infrastructure.

The good socialist response - reduce everyone (except the ruling class
of course) to the lowest possible centrally controlled standard of
mediocrity and allow them to travel only where and when the state
permits.

Come on.. his reply wasn't *that* good!

On 15 Sep, 18:56, Peter Parry wrote:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:35:10 +0100, Tom Crispin

wrote:
You have described, far better than I ever could, why motoring taxes
are too low, and why they need to rise to subsidise public transport
infrastructure.

The good socialist response - reduce everyone (except the ruling class
of course) to the lowest possible centrally controlled standard of
mediocrity and allow them to travel only where and when the state
permits.

As opposed to letting everyone do exactly as they please with
virtually no accountability or conscience, just like motorists at
present. I could call that anarchy but it is not as good as anarchy,
instead it is mob rule in the guise of democracy..

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One man's democracy is another man's Aristotelian mob.

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:37:08 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:

As opposed to letting everyone do exactly as they please with
virtually no accountability or conscience, just like motorists at
present.

Motorists are held to account far more tightly than cyclists. Are
you arguing for regulation of cyclists to be increased to similar
levels?

I could call that anarchy

You could, but it would merely show you don't know what the word
means.