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Old July 29th 06, 09:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Reading the News Papers you can learn something as :
"Kaye, Landis's doctor, said a cyclist would not benefit from taking
testosterone. "If you take a look at the facts of the case, first off it
makes absolutely no sense that a professional cyclist would be taking
testosterone in the first place," he said. "That never ever would enhance
your performance. In fact, it would make you slower.""
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/29/sp...ef=othersports

or the opposite :
"forensic toxicologist in Nashville and author of the book ``Drug Testing in
Sports'' questioned the assertion by some experts that it would not make
sense for suspended Tour de France winner Floyd Landis to have taken
testosterone for a quick boost of energy and strength before his Stage 17
breakaway....
I have injected myself with testosterone in doing research, and I can tell
you from personal experience that within hours, you feel a profound
psychological change, a sense of well-being, aggression and energy," Black
said.
"You feel strong and powerful. And your endurance is definitely improved.
So, it's not peculiar to me that a cyclist would take testosterone after a
bad day. What does seem peculiar is that an athlete of that caliber would
put himself at such great risk, knowing that they test for testosterone."
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15153880.htm
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I hope it is clear now ?
Cristal !



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Old July 29th 06, 09:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Montesquiou a écrit dans le message de news:
...
| Reading the News Papers you can learn something as :
| "Kaye, Landis's doctor, said a cyclist would not benefit from taking
| testosterone. "If you take a look at the facts of the case, first off it
| makes absolutely no sense that a professional cyclist would be taking
| testosterone in the first place," he said. "That never ever would enhance
| your performance. In fact, it would make you slower.""
|
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/29/sp...ef=othersports
|
| or the opposite :
| "forensic toxicologist in Nashville and author of the book ``Drug Testing
in
| Sports'' questioned the assertion by some experts that it would not make
| sense for suspended Tour de France winner Floyd Landis to have taken
| testosterone for a quick boost of energy and strength before his Stage 17
| breakaway....
| I have injected myself with testosterone in doing research, and I can tell
| you from personal experience that within hours, you feel a profound
| psychological change, a sense of well-being, aggression and energy," Black
| said.
| "You feel strong and powerful. And your endurance is definitely improved.
| So, it's not peculiar to me that a cyclist would take testosterone after a
| bad day. What does seem peculiar is that an athlete of that caliber would
| put himself at such great risk, knowing that they test for testosterone."
| http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15153880.htm
| ****
| I hope it is clear now ?
| Cristal !
|

Well, I also have had testosterone injections. And there were in fact no
immediate effects. Clearer?


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Old July 29th 06, 10:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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trg wrote:


Well, I also have had testosterone injections. And there were in fact no
immediate effects. Clearer?

While we are at it, I had never testosterone injections, and I feel a
bit tired now and then. Especially if it's so hot!

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Old July 29th 06, 10:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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it is said that testoterone injection make the guy very horny, that makes
him all excited (aroused? pardon my english), excited to climb moutain,
excited to **** deep and hard and from behind the podium girls. so I think
that the best dope would be a night with these podium girls with their mini
skirt


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Old July 29th 06, 10:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Montesquiou wrote:
Reading the News Papers you can learn something as :
"Kaye, Landis's doctor, said a cyclist would not benefit from taking
testosterone. "If you take a look at the facts of the case, first off it
makes absolutely no sense that a professional cyclist would be taking
testosterone in the first place," he said. "That never ever would enhance
your performance. In fact, it would make you slower.""
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/29/sp...ef=othersports

or the opposite :
"forensic toxicologist in Nashville and author of the book ``Drug Testing in
Sports'' questioned the assertion by some experts that it would not make
sense for suspended Tour de France winner Floyd Landis to have taken
testosterone for a quick boost of energy and strength before his Stage 17
breakaway....
I have injected myself with testosterone in doing research, and I can tell
you from personal experience that within hours, you feel a profound
psychological change, a sense of well-being, aggression and energy," Black
said.
"You feel strong and powerful. And your endurance is definitely improved.
So, it's not peculiar to me that a cyclist would take testosterone after a
bad day. What does seem peculiar is that an athlete of that caliber would
put himself at such great risk, knowing that they test for testosterone."
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15153880.htm
****
I hope it is clear now ?
Cristal !



Not at all clear.

I'm sorry, but what kind of scientist is this guy Black? It's not very
clinical or objective to inject himself with testosterone and describe
his feelings as proof of the results. Does he do these experiments in
his garage? Is his dog his lab assistant?

Plus, he's one "scientist" refuting the results of several studies
cited in the media.

Linda Lou

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Old July 30th 06, 05:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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In article
.com,
"Linda Lou" wrote:

I'm sorry, but what kind of scientist is this guy Black? It's not very
clinical or objective to inject himself with testosterone and describe
his feelings as proof of the results. Does he do these experiments in
his garage? Is his dog his lab assistant?

Plus, he's one "scientist" refuting the results of several studies
cited in the media.


A good scientist will always experiment on himself. The
report you may take as you will.

Once read an account of a scientist who purposely had
himself bitten by a black widow spider. Two days of agony.

--
Michael Press
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Old July 30th 06, 05:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Michael Press wrote:
In article
.com,
"Linda Lou" wrote:

I'm sorry, but what kind of scientist is this guy Black? It's not very
clinical or objective to inject himself with testosterone and describe
his feelings as proof of the results. Does he do these experiments in
his garage? Is his dog his lab assistant?

Plus, he's one "scientist" refuting the results of several studies
cited in the media.


A good scientist will always experiment on himself. The
report you may take as you will.

Once read an account of a scientist who purposely had
himself bitten by a black widow spider. Two days of agony.

--
Michael Press


And of course it was double-blind and with a placebo control.

One has to wonder about the credibility of people who grasp at
non-science to further their position.

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Old July 30th 06, 08:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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internaute wrote:


it is said that testoterone injection make the guy very horny, that makes
him all excited (aroused? pardon my english), excited to climb moutain,
excited to **** deep and hard and from behind the podium girls. so I think
that the best dope would be a night with these podium girls with their mini
skirt


Surely you mean without their mini skirt ?


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Old July 30th 06, 08:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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trg wrote:
Well, I also have had testosterone injections. And there were in fact no
immediate effects. Clearer?


Ernst Noch wrote:
While we are at it, I had never testosterone injections, and I feel a
bit tired now and then. Especially if it's so hot!


All you need is nice hot podium girl.

 




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