"hit him back first"

A minor confrontation yesterday... I'm out
riding my bicycle, some nut job on another
bike chases me, screaming. It seems I
committed the crime of running a stop sign
(guilty guilty guilty). He pulls along side,
still yelling. I ignore him. He's foaming at the
mouth. I run another stop sign, he blows another
gasket, hahaha! It's worth the price of admission.
Finally he peels away.

Now does that constitute a 'self defense situation?'
Not that I could do much, we're both on bikes... maybe
Sakuraba could pull off some kind of move, but I'm not
him... does mma cover this?

For a moment I thought he might try to ram me,
then I would have gone ape****. I wasn't carrying
anything, but I'm confident I can put my knuckles
through anyone's nose.

My question is, are you prepared for this sort
of thing, do you have your kata down?
Do you wait for the enemy to make the first
aggressive move? Where is the point of no return?


Sam

Sam who? wrote:

A minor confrontation yesterday... I'm out riding my bicycle, some
nut job on another bike chases me, screaming. It seems I committed
the crime of running a stop sign (guilty guilty guilty). He pulls
along side, still yelling. I ignore him. He's foaming at the
mouth. I run another stop sign, he blows another gasket, hahaha!
It's worth the price of admission. Finally he peels away.

Now does that constitute a 'self defense situation?' Not that I
could do much, we're both on bikes... maybe Sakuraba could pull off
some kind of move, but I'm not him... does mma cover this?

For a moment I thought he might try to ram me, then I would have
gone ape****. I wasn't carrying anything, but I'm confident I can
put my knuckles through anyone's nose.

My question is, are you prepared for this sort of thing, do you have
your kata down? Do you wait for the enemy to make the first
aggressive move? Where is the point of no return?

I think I know that guy. He's the one who shouts at the top of his
voice across 4x4 light controlled intersections: "Where's your
helmet?" He's hard to recognize other than by his actions because he
wears all the "jersey-pro" stuff including wraparound dark sun glasses
even on rainy days or after dusk.

Jobst Brandt

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Sam the Bam wrote:

A minor confrontation yesterday... I'm out
riding my bicycle, some nut job on another
bike chases me, screaming. It seems I
committed the crime of running a stop sign
(guilty guilty guilty). He pulls along side,
still yelling. I ignore him. He's foaming at the
mouth. I run another stop sign, he blows another
gasket, hahaha! It's worth the price of admission.
Finally he peels away.

Now does that constitute a 'self defense situation?'
Not that I could do much, we're both on bikes... maybe
Sakuraba could pull off some kind of move, but I'm not
him... does mma cover this?

For a moment I thought he might try to ram me,
then I would have gone ape****. I wasn't carrying
anything, but I'm confident I can put my knuckles
through anyone's nose.

My question is, are you prepared for this sort
of thing, do you have your kata down?
Do you wait for the enemy to make the first
aggressive move? Where is the point of no return?

These simple training videos will explain the inner secrets of Bike Fu
(it's a mixed-up martial art):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QwKaeWkYbqk

Self-defence means you must always be prepared. An attack can come from
anywhe

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yIKFiZhrRzg

As with any martial art, learning to fall correctly is important:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qMAJf-hf1Zk&feature=related

Remember, your preparation must be both physical and mental. Bike racers
are very good at mixed martial arts, because they are already mental.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

"Sam the Bam" wrote in message
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A minor confrontation yesterday... I'm out
riding my bicycle, some nut job on another
bike chases me, screaming. It seems I
committed the crime of running a stop sign
(guilty guilty guilty). He pulls along side,
still yelling. I ignore him. He's foaming at the
mouth. I run another stop sign, he blows another
gasket, hahaha! It's worth the price of admission.
Finally he peels away.

Now does that constitute a 'self defense situation?'
Not that I could do much, we're both on bikes... maybe
Sakuraba could pull off some kind of move, but I'm not
him... does mma cover this?

For a moment I thought he might try to ram me,
then I would have gone ape****. I wasn't carrying
anything, but I'm confident I can put my knuckles
through anyone's nose.

My question is, are you prepared for this sort
of thing, do you have your kata down?
Do you wait for the enemy to make the first
aggressive move? Where is the point of no return?


Pull your pump out and stick it through his spokes.

Fraser

On Jun 3, 12:05*pm, "Fraser Johnston" wrote:
"Sam the Bam" wrote in ...





A minor confrontation yesterday... I'm out
riding my bicycle, some nut job on another
bike chases me, screaming. *It seems I
committed the crime of running a stop sign
(guilty guilty guilty). *He pulls along side,
still yelling. *I ignore him. *He's foaming at the
mouth. *I run another stop sign, he blows another
gasket, hahaha! *It's worth the price of admission.
Finally he peels away.

Now does that constitute a 'self defense situation?'
Not that I could do much, we're both on bikes... maybe
Sakuraba could pull off some kind of move, but I'm not
him... *does mma cover this?

For a moment I thought he might try to ram me,
then I would have gone ape****. *I wasn't carrying
anything, but I'm confident I can put my knuckles
through anyone's nose.

My question is, are you prepared for this sort
of thing, do you have your kata down?
Do you wait for the enemy to make the first
aggressive move? *Where is the point of no return?

Pull your pump out and stick it through his spokes.

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I saw that movie.

But in Blues Brothers 2000 a bag of carpet tacks (or were they drywall
nails - movie trivia) sends the car flying and breaks the Russian
watches. Certainly worth trying.

A minor confrontation yesterday... I'm out
riding my bicycle, some nut job on another
bike chases me, screaming. *It seems I
committed the crime of running a stop sign
(guilty guilty guilty). *He pulls along side,
still yelling. *I ignore him. *He's foaming at the
mouth. *I run another stop sign, he blows another
gasket, hahaha! *It's worth the price of admission.
Finally he peels away.

Ignore him.

That being said, it does annoy me when bike riders **** and moan about
having the right to ride on the streets, but then they can't even
follow simple rules and traffic signs.

Now does that constitute a 'self defense situation?'

Only if you feel he presents an immediate threat to you.

Not that I could do much, we're both on bikes... maybe
Sakuraba could pull off some kind of move, but I'm not
him... *does mma cover this?

Hell, a simple kick would probably do - just knock his ass off the
bike.

For a moment I thought he might try to ram me,
then I would have gone ape****. *I wasn't carrying
anything, but I'm confident I can put my knuckles
through anyone's nose.

Assuming you aren't lying in a heap from him ramming you.

My question is, are you prepared for this sort
of thing, do you have your kata down?

Which one had the bike moves in it...?

Do you wait for the enemy to make the first
aggressive move? *

Depends on the situation. If I feel confident that someone is going
to make an aggressive move, I have no qualms about making one first.

Where is the point of no return?

Just inside the Schwarzschild radius.

Shuurai wrote:
A minor confrontation yesterday... I'm out
riding my bicycle, some nut job on another
bike chases me, screaming. It seems I
committed the crime of running a stop sign
(guilty guilty guilty). He pulls along side,
still yelling. I ignore him. He's foaming at the
mouth. I run another stop sign, he blows another
gasket, hahaha! It's worth the price of admission.
Finally he peels away.

Ignore him.

That being said, it does annoy me when bike riders **** and moan about
having the right to ride on the streets, but then they can't even
follow simple rules and traffic signs.


No kidding.. Though the '**** and moan' bit kinda points out a bias..
I'd refer you to your local rules/regs for vehicles, but I'm not sure
what it says in your area... If it's anything like up here though, it
would be right up there with ****ing/moaning about motorcycles using the
road..


That said, there are assholes in all mediums, and cyclists are not
immune. Case in point would be the standard big-city bike messenger.
They'll weave, bob, cut off, hop onto sidewalk, whatever it takes.

On Jun 3, 8:30 am, Pboud wrote:
Shuurai wrote:
A minor confrontation yesterday... I'm out
riding my bicycle, some nut job on another
bike chases me, screaming. It seems I
committed the crime of running a stop sign
(guilty guilty guilty). He pulls along side,
still yelling. I ignore him. He's foaming at the
mouth. I run another stop sign, he blows another
gasket, hahaha! It's worth the price of admission.
Finally he peels away.

Ignore him.

That being said, it does annoy me when bike riders **** and moan about
having the right to ride on the streets, but then they can't even
follow simple rules and traffic signs.

No kidding.. Though the '**** and moan' bit kinda points out a bias..
I'd refer you to your local rules/regs for vehicles, but I'm not sure
what it says in your area... If it's anything like up here though, it
would be right up there with ****ing/moaning about motorcycles using the
road..

That said, there are assholes in all mediums, and cyclists are not
immune. Case in point would be the standard big-city bike messenger.
They'll weave, bob, cut off, hop onto sidewalk, whatever it takes.

Go to a third world country, ****, or even Europe, and soon you don't
give a **** about what the bikes/motorcycles/scooters are doing and
let them worry about themselves.

Pierre

That being said, it does annoy me when bike riders **** and moan about
having the right to ride on the streets, but then they can't even
follow simple rules and traffic signs.

No kidding.. Though the '**** and moan' bit kinda points out a bias..

Not really. I ride a lot myself; I just follow the rules.

I'd refer you to your local rules/regs for vehicles, but I'm not sure
what it says in your area... *If it's anything like up here though, it
would be right up there with ****ing/moaning about motorcycles using the
road..

Basically, if you're riding your bike in traffic you follow the same
rules as everyone else. That means obeying signs and lights.

That said, there are assholes in all mediums, and cyclists are not
immune. Case in point would be the standard big-city bike messenger.
They'll weave, bob, cut off, hop onto sidewalk, whatever it takes.

Locally they've started putting cops on bikes and pulling these folks
over. It's funny as hell to see.

Shuurai wrote:
That being said, it does annoy me when bike riders **** and moan about
having the right to ride on the streets, but then they can't even
follow simple rules and traffic signs.
No kidding.. Though the '**** and moan' bit kinda points out a bias..

Not really. I ride a lot myself; I just follow the rules.

I'd refer you to your local rules/regs for vehicles, but I'm not sure
what it says in your area... If it's anything like up here though, it
would be right up there with ****ing/moaning about motorcycles using the
road..

Basically, if you're riding your bike in traffic you follow the same
rules as everyone else. That means obeying signs and lights.

That said, there are assholes in all mediums, and cyclists are not
immune. Case in point would be the standard big-city bike messenger.
They'll weave, bob, cut off, hop onto sidewalk, whatever it takes.

Locally they've started putting cops on bikes and pulling these folks
over. It's funny as hell to see.
Sweet!!


P.