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"news" from Chicago
On Jun 22, 4:30*pm, DougC wrote:
If someone liked bicycling, I would wonder why they would choose to live an an urban area to begin with. It's rather like a professional snow-skier living in the middle of Death Valley. I didn't bike daily as an adult UNTIL I moved downtown. It's simply the best way to get around here (Toronto) for short distances (up to about 10 km.) |
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"news" from Chicago
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"ZBicyclist" writes: wrote: Doug Cimper wrote (in the subjunctive): If someone liked bicycling, I would wonder why they would choose to live an an urban area to begin with. It's rather like a professional snow-skier living in the middle of Death Valley. I think that perception ignores why people live in Chicago, which is probably to enable employment in a chosen profession. Being a bicyclist is likely coincidental and less important than earning a living and employment in a field where useful achievement is possible. We certainly don't live here for the climate! Well Chicago does have that wonderful http://bikewinter.org thing. And I wouldn't be surprised if the "heat islands" created by cities render winter urban cycling at least somewhat more doable than riding in less real-estately developed environs a little further afield. I understand the summers can get pretty hot 'n sultry along the shores of the Great Lakes. And that old moniker: The Windy City doesn't bode well for lazy-assed riders who always seek the path of least resistance. So I figure Chicagoans live there to support The Cubs. It's a nice thought, anyways. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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Tom Keats wrote:
[...] So I figure Chicagoans live there to support The Cubs. It's a nice thought, anyways. Them thar fightin' words to South Side White Sox fans! -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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Tom Keats wrote:
In article , DougC writes: Bob wrote: The Chicago Sun-Times ran an online poll today asking, "Which occupant of Chicago streets is more annoying: bikers, drivers or pedestrians?" The result? 44% found cyclists to be more annoying than drivers (43%) or pedestrians (12%). Sounds pretty conclusive, doesn't it. Ah, but wait- only 264 votes were cast. There are roughly 10 million people in the Chicago metro area. If only 10% of those drive (a conservative guesstimate) that is still a million people. 264 out of a million doesn't sound like a very meaningful survey group to me but some on either 'side' will point to the survey as proof we need more legislation, more bike paths, more education, etcetera when all we really need is to just laugh such silliness off and go ride. Regards, Bob P.S.- And if we happen to be riding in the Chicago metro area we should try not to annoy the 116 that voted us most annoying. g If someone liked bicycling, I would wonder why they would choose to live an an urban area to begin with. It's rather like a professional snow-skier living in the middle of Death Valley. ~ I wonder why so many people opt to drive their POV/SOV cars for short, infra-city trips. So many traffic lights, trying to find parking spots, so much bulky machinery just to convey one or two people around. And when it comes to maneouverability, cars are such awkward, lumbering mechanical beasts; they hold up the rest of the traffic when they're being parallel-parked, sometimes it takes a few attempts. In the city, cars get in the way of other cars, riders and pedestrians, much more than riders and pedestrians get in the way of cars. By bike-riding in the city, one avoids being an impediment to fellow citizens, while also avoiding being impeded by fellow citizens. I find it more sociable and civilised. Your last sentence is key. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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Tom Sherman °_° writes: Tom Keats wrote: In article , DougC writes: Bob wrote: The Chicago Sun-Times ran an online poll today asking, "Which occupant of Chicago streets is more annoying: bikers, drivers or pedestrians?" The result? 44% found cyclists to be more annoying than drivers (43%) or pedestrians (12%). Sounds pretty conclusive, doesn't it. Ah, but wait- only 264 votes were cast. There are roughly 10 million people in the Chicago metro area. If only 10% of those drive (a conservative guesstimate) that is still a million people. 264 out of a million doesn't sound like a very meaningful survey group to me but some on either 'side' will point to the survey as proof we need more legislation, more bike paths, more education, etcetera when all we really need is to just laugh such silliness off and go ride. Regards, Bob P.S.- And if we happen to be riding in the Chicago metro area we should try not to annoy the 116 that voted us most annoying. g If someone liked bicycling, I would wonder why they would choose to live an an urban area to begin with. It's rather like a professional snow-skier living in the middle of Death Valley. ~ I wonder why so many people opt to drive their POV/SOV cars for short, infra-city trips. So many traffic lights, trying to find parking spots, so much bulky machinery just to convey one or two people around. And when it comes to maneouverability, cars are such awkward, lumbering mechanical beasts; they hold up the rest of the traffic when they're being parallel-parked, sometimes it takes a few attempts. In the city, cars get in the way of other cars, riders and pedestrians, much more than riders and pedestrians get in the way of cars. By bike-riding in the city, one avoids being an impediment to fellow citizens, while also avoiding being impeded by fellow citizens. I find it more sociable and civilised. Your last sentence is key. Actually my whole blurb is. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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On Jun 23, 1:08*am, Jym Dyer wrote:
The Chicago Sun-Times ran an online poll today asking, "Which occupant of Chicago streets is more annoying: *bikers, drivers or pedestrians?" =v= I hate when newspapers do these thoroughly-unscientific "polls" on topics that are entirely about emotion. *They may as well ask which race is the most annoying and print the results without any demographic breakdown. * * _Jym_ That's an easy one- the human race. Regards, Bob |
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Tom Sherman °_° writes: Tom Keats wrote: [...] So I figure Chicagoans live there to support The Cubs. It's a nice thought, anyways. Them thar fightin' words to South Side White Sox fans! Hey, if yer AL team blows it, you've still got the NL guys to maybe attract some good visitor teams for a while. Perish the thought of me getting on the wrong side of South Side ChiSox fans. Even though the Yankees apparently have it in the bag (yet again.) Unless Boston can once again obviate The Curse of the Babe, and drive that nail home fer good. The upcoming All-Stars might be telling. It became easier for the BoSox to obviate The Curse of the Babe when The Curse of Billy Martin was lifted. (But it still took a long while.) The Cubs without Harry Carey's bad singing ain't the same. I think they should cajole Alice Cooper to get into the press box, and stick a microphone in his hand. I still recall the early '80s playoffs, when The Twins' Tom Whatshisface refused to shake hands with Detroit's Sparky Anderson. I'm sure no Chicago player: Al, NL, AAA, AA, Beer League, Little League or PeeWee would behave like that. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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"news" from Chicago
On Jun 23, 5:56*pm, (Tom Keats) wrote:
So I figure Chicagoans live there to support The Cubs. It's a nice thought, anyways. I don't follow professional baseball and I don't care about the Cubs... but I repeat myself. Regards, Bob (with an apology to Mark Twain) |
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"news" from Chicago
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Jun 23, 1:08 am, Jym Dyer wrote: The Chicago Sun-Times ran an online poll today asking, "Which occupant of Chicago streets is more annoying: bikers, drivers or pedestrians?" =v= I hate when newspapers do these thoroughly-unscientific "polls" on topics that are entirely about emotion. They may as well ask which race is the most annoying and print the results without any demographic breakdown. _Jym_ That's an easy one- the human race. Is the human race UCI sanctioned? -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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"news" from Chicago
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Bob writes: On Jun 23, 5:56*pm, (Tom Keats) wrote: So I figure Chicagoans live there to support The Cubs. It's a nice thought, anyways. I don't follow professional baseball and I don't care about the Cubs... but I repeat myself. Regards, Bob (with an apology to Mark Twain) I like that. Hey, Bob, It's good to hear from you again. I hope you're inclined to stick around, some. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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