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  #11  
Old August 17th 10, 01:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Derek C
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

On Aug 16, 7:29*am, Doug wrote:
Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware
that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to
say manual and *motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled
cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways
stations and along pavements.

I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but
much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits
to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not
parting with my money to the traders on the pier.

Doug.


Are you sure that the bike was the only reason you were refused access
Doug?
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  #12  
Old August 17th 10, 01:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Derek C
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

On Aug 16, 7:29*am, Doug wrote:
Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware
that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to
say manual and *motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled
cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways
stations and along pavements.

I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but
much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits
to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not
parting with my money to the traders on the pier.

Doug.


Are you sure that the bike was the only reason why you were refused
access Doug?

  #13  
Old August 17th 10, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
The Medway Handyman[_2_]
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

Doug wrote:
On 16 Aug, 09:43, webreader wrote:
On Aug 16, 9:40 am, maresh wrote:



On Aug 16, 7:29 am, Doug wrote:


Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are
unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against,
compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at
least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such
places as railways stations and along pavements.


I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful
but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar
benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the
consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the
pier.


Doug.


Bicycles are obviously considered a danger & an inconvience on the
peir, so they are banned.


If cycles were allowed on the pier cyclist would be riding them not
pushing them.


If cyclists behaved in a better manner then perhaps such bans would
not be in place.


They have brought it on themselves, you only have to see the amount
of pavement cycling that happens in Brighton to know the reason.


Indeed.
Did you cycle on the pavement while you were there Doug?

Fortunately Brighton is very cycle friendly, except for the pier, and
has a wide shared pavement along the length of the front.


I don't think so;

"Inspector James Biggs, of the Sussex Police road policing unit at Hove,
said: "Our communities in Brighton and Hove are regularly raising concerns
about anti-social cycling, where cyclists are cycling on pavements, having
no regard for red traffic lights and cycling without lights at night".

"This behaviour puts both the cyclists and other road users at risk and we
will respond robustly to anyone found committing such offences."


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.


  #14  
Old August 17th 10, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
The Medway Handyman[_2_]
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

Doug wrote:
On 16 Aug, 09:43, webreader wrote:
On Aug 16, 9:40 am, maresh wrote:



On Aug 16, 7:29 am, Doug wrote:


Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are
unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against,
compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at
least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such
places as railways stations and along pavements.


I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful
but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar
benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the
consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the
pier.


Doug.


Bicycles are obviously considered a danger & an inconvience on the
peir, so they are banned.


If cycles were allowed on the pier cyclist would be riding them not
pushing them.


If cyclists behaved in a better manner then perhaps such bans would
not be in place.


They have brought it on themselves, you only have to see the amount
of pavement cycling that happens in Brighton to know the reason.


Indeed.
Did you cycle on the pavement while you were there Doug?

Fortunately Brighton is very cycle friendly, except for the pier, and
has a wide shared pavement along the length of the front.


I don't think so;

"Inspector James Biggs, of the Sussex Police road policing unit at Hove,
said: "Our communities in Brighton and Hove are regularly raising concerns
about anti-social cycling, where cyclists are cycling on pavements, having
no regard for red traffic lights and cycling without lights at night".

"This behaviour puts both the cyclists and other road users at risk and we
will respond robustly to anyone found committing such offences."


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.


  #15  
Old August 17th 10, 06:00 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
The Medway Handyman[_2_]
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

David wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message news:E7eao.33421$wf1.7361@hurricane...

You suffer from a condition all right, but it mental not physical.


Beautifully put, you spaztard.t


Do you think it acceptable to use terms that denigrate the mentally
challenged?

Its because of people like you tha The Sapstics Society had to change their
name to Scope.


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.


  #16  
Old August 17th 10, 06:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_10_]
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote:
Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware
that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to
say manual and *motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled
cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways
stations and along pavements.


I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but
much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits
to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not
parting with my money to the traders on the pier.


Doug.


You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly
because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne
bombs.

Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an
emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often
caught fire. *Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a
bicycle into a cinema

I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others.

In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are
allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled
cyclists.

Doug...
  #17  
Old August 17th 10, 06:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_10_]
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

On 17 Aug, 17:54, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 16 Aug, 09:43, webreader wrote:
On Aug 16, 9:40 am, maresh wrote:


On Aug 16, 7:29 am, Doug wrote:


Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are
unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against,
compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at
least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such
places as railways stations and along pavements.


I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful
but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar
benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the
consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the
pier.


Doug.


Bicycles are obviously considered a danger & an inconvience on the
peir, so they are banned.


If cycles were allowed on the pier cyclist would be riding them not
pushing them.


If cyclists behaved in a better manner then perhaps such bans would
not be in place.


They have brought it on themselves, you only have to see the amount
of pavement cycling that happens in Brighton to know the reason.


Indeed.
Did you cycle on the pavement while you were there Doug?


Fortunately Brighton is very cycle friendly, except for the pier, and
has a wide shared pavement along the length of the front.


I don't think so;

"Inspector James Biggs, of the Sussex Police road policing unit at Hove,
said: "Our communities in Brighton and Hove are regularly raising concerns
about anti-social cycling, where cyclists are cycling on pavements, having
no regard for red traffic lights and cycling without lights at night".

"This behaviour puts both the cyclists and other road users at risk and we
will respond robustly to anyone found committing such offences."

Well of course the police are not friendly, they never are. But
Brighton seems to have loads of bicycles at stands and the
infrastructure is quite good for cycling, except for the usual
speeding, motorised vehicles of course but that is the same virtually
everywhere.

Doug.

  #18  
Old August 17th 10, 06:10 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_10_]
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

On 17 Aug, 13:52, Derek C wrote:
On Aug 16, 7:29*am, Doug wrote:

Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware
that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to
say manual and *motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled
cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways
stations and along pavements.


I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but
much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits
to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not
parting with my money to the traders on the pier.


Doug.


Are you sure that the bike was the only reason why you were refused
access Doug?

Yep they were quite specific, "NO BICYCLES".

Doug.
  #19  
Old August 17th 10, 06:22 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_2_]
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

Doug wrote:
On 17 Aug, 13:52, Derek C wrote:
On Aug 16, 7:29 am, Doug wrote:

Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are
unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against,
compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at least
disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places
as railways stations and along pavements.


I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful
but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar
benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the
consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier.


Doug.


Are you sure that the bike was the only reason why you were refused
access Doug?

Yep they were quite specific, "NO BICYCLES".

Doug.


and so once again your post subject is mis-leading, the 'disabled' cyclist
was not denied access to the pier.

have you considered following this woman's example by cycling under the
pier?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/8118578.stm


  #20  
Old August 17th 10, 06:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_7_]
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Default Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.

Doug wrote:
On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote:
Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware
that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to
say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled
cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways
stations and along pavements.
I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but
much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits
to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not
parting with my money to the traders on the pier.
Doug.

You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly
because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne
bombs.

Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an
emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often
caught fire. Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a
bicycle into a cinema

I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others.

In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are
allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled
cyclists.


What problem - other than the obvious lack of mobility of their users - do
wheelchairs prevent?
 




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