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Old January 10th 05, 01:12 AM
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When exactly did this come out and what are people's impressions of
it?
Are there any good close up galleries?


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Old January 10th 05, 03:58 AM
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im really sorry if this sounds rude but there have been about a million
threads about the kh fusion saddles...so pleas klik the search button

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Old January 10th 05, 06:38 AM
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I'm ordering one for my big muni upgrade. I should have it in two weeks
maybe, and I'll get heaps of detailed pics then. I only read about them
a few days ago...before then I'd just assumed they weren't anything
special and never looked any further. How foolish I was, they're
brilliant!

I spoke to Tony Melton last night about them and he likes them. One
thing he mentioned which is nice is that the new handle is a little
thicker where your fingers wrap around so you're actually grabbing onto
something. They're also a nice material apparently which shouldn't rip
too easily.

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Old January 10th 05, 07:00 AM
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they are cool, at first i thought that the handle would be
uncomfortable, but it's awesome. then i converted it to an airseat and
its even better


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Old January 10th 05, 07:26 AM
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There hasn't been much written about the KH Fusion saddle yet so a
search of past messages for the word "fusion" doesn't turn up much
useful info. There hasn't been a post yet that all the differences in
the Fusion saddle compared to the past KH saddles. All we've got is
bits and pieces of info about the new saddle scattered about in
different threads.

Unicycle.com UK has a 'description of the KH Fusion saddle'
(http://tinyurl.com/3uhad)
Kris has a description of his saddles in the 'unicycle catalog at
KrisHolm.com' (http://www.krisholm.com/products/)
Unicycle.com USA lumps the new Fusion saddle in with the catalog item
for the older KH saddle. That's a bit confusing and does not highlight
the differences between the older KH saddle and the newer Fusion, other
than saying the Fusion has a removable seat cover.

But neither site explains the differences between the Fusion saddle
compared to the older saddles. They mention the Fusion has a removable
seat cover, but other than that the info on design changes is pretty
sparse.

I don't know what all is different between the older KH saddle and the
new Fusion saddle. Most of what I know is from talking to Kris at the
California Muni Weekend about the new saddle and that was very brief and
based on a prototype saddle and not the final version.

Here's what I know about the new Fusion saddle:

New handle design. It's thicker and more rounded where your fingers
wrap around. You can see the new handle in the picture at KrisHolm.com.
Confusingly, the picture of the Fusion saddle at Unicycle.com UK shows
the old handle. The new KH style saddles from Torker and other
suppliers are also coming with the new handle design.

The Fusion saddle is a little bit narrower up front (the nose of the
saddle). That is to reduce leg rubbing and chafing while pedaling. I'm
not sure how much narrower. I think it's only a few mm, maybe 5 mm or
so. Is the plastic saddle base actually narrower is it just the foam
that is narrower? I don't know.

I think there has been some beefing up internally in the saddle to make
it stiffer. This may be a stronger metal stiffener plate inside the
saddle. But I don't know. Someone will have to take a Fusion saddle
apart and take pictures so we can see. Hopefully by someone who has
taken an older KH saddle apart and can compare.

The density of the padding may also have changed. Kris mentioned that
it was going to be softer. I don't know if the production version
actually is softer or how much softer.

Other differences? I don't know.

There are still plenty of questions that haven't been answered yet about
what's all new and improved in the KH Fusion saddle. It is certainly
worthy of a new thread to get the conversation going and hopefully get
some answers.


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Old January 10th 05, 10:58 AM
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My mate Pebbles has a Fusion saddle on his KH20, he's had the uni for
about 6 months, I've got an Onza with KH saddle.

The differences we've noticed:

Fusion front is narrower,
Fusion Material is tougher,
Can't feel a difference in foam thickness,
Fusion has a fair creak to it and bends quite a bit.

New Fusion handles make the most difference. You don't get sore fingers
after a while anymore, and you get a better grip. I bought replacement
handle for other uni cos they're that good.

I would say if your saddle is all beat up and ripped/scuffed but the
foam and base are fine, get a fusion cover and a new handle. And if the
saddle isn't damaged, get a new handle anyway!

T.


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Old January 10th 05, 03:32 PM
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I rode a KH for about a week while I was waiting for my Fusion to show
up. I don't remember much, but I could probably borrow the seat from my
friend again and do a side by side comparo or something. The handle is
the one thing I can remember really well. The Fusion handle is so much
better than the KH handle.


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Old January 10th 05, 04:02 PM
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Is the fusion handle different from the handle on the new versions of
the normal KH seats?

They have a handle that's thicker at the front bit where your fingers
go. It feels much better than the old kh handle.

If they're the same then the only obvious difference would be the
removeable cover, which I'd guess is worth the £3 difference anyway.

Joe


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Old January 10th 05, 04:06 PM
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On the KH website it says about the KH seat "available with a normal or
removable (fusion) cover". That kind of implies the cover is the only
difference.

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Old January 10th 05, 04:07 PM
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yes the handle is much different its much more comfortable


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