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Sara Lorimer wrote:
Django Cat wrote: I feel I've missed out, big time. You can catch up: http://www.kiddierecords.com/archive/week_04.htm Amazing how much Uncle Remus sounds like Chef (RIP) from South Park. I wonder if Isaac Hayes (RIP) did that on purpose. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_(South_Park) I've left a space after the closing parenthesis, to see if that has any effect on the deletion problem. |
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CDB wrote:
[channelling Walt] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_(South_Park) I've left a space after the closing parenthesis, to see if that has any effect on the deletion problem. Nope. It's not much trouble to copy and paste the title of the non-existent article into the search box and close the parenthesis, though. |
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CDB wrote
CDB wrote: [channelling Walt] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_(South_Park) I've left a space after the closing parenthesis, to see if that has any effect on the deletion problem. Nope. It's not much trouble to copy and paste the title of the non-existent article into the search box and close the parenthesis, though. It didn't help me either (another Turnpike user). RFC 2396 (URL:http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt) says, in part: URI are often transmitted through formats that do not provide a clear context for their interpretation. For example, there are many occasions when URI are included in plain text; examples include text sent in electronic mail, USENET news messages, and, most importantly, printed on paper. In such cases, it is important to be able to delimit the URI from the rest of the text, and in particular from punctuation marks that might be mistaken for part of the URI. In practice, URI are delimited in a variety of ways, but usually within double-quotes "http://test.com/", angle brackets http://test.com/, or just using whitespace http://test.com/ These wrappers do not form part of the URI. URI = Uniform Resource Identifier(s). I see no objection in that RFC to the use of the ) character in a URL, but I can see from a web search that other software has similar difficulty in deciding if it is external or internal punctuation when ) occurs at the end of the string. -- Paul |
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On May 12, 11:50*pm, Lars Eighner wrote:
In our last episode, , the lovely and talented Jerry Friedman broadcast on alt.usage.english: On May 11, 7:34*pm, wrote: On May 11, 7:50*pm, Jerry Friedman wrote: Here are some stories. http://www.angelfire.com/co4/raggbagg/BrerTales.htm Here are "The Wonderful Tar-Baby" and "How Mr. Rabbit Was Too Sharp For Mr. Fox", the two most famous stories (and the only ones I know anything about). http://www.mythfolklore.net/3043myth...s/pages/01.htm (Hitting the arrow takes you to the same thing in Harris's original, and hitting it again continues the "modernized" story.) These are from a 1999 version. *The one I read as a little boy, probably in the '60s, had more AAVE, I vaguely remember. As I recall, one reason for "modernizing" these stories was that the originals got some condescending laughs out of AAVE, and perpetuated stereotypes of black people who said ""How duz yo' sym'tums seem ter segashuate?" *Now that singers and rappers are selling millions of disks in AAVE to slightly older children, I think we can admit that some African Americans speak AAVE at least some of the time. *There may still be no need for "segashuate", though. -- Jerry Friedman http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page and search for 'uncleremus' in the title field Thanks, but all I found there was the originals. *DC was looking for versions with less dialect. I'm coming in late, so someone may have mentioned this. *The tar baby story can be found in many collections of West African folk tales. I may have to look for that, so thanks for the interesting information. I cannot now locate the title of the Oxford anthology in which I read it in the '70s, but google pops up a number of very promising new compilations. *The problem with the original is that it is probably too sexual for American school boards and Spider, the original trickster character from whom Brer Rabbit is derived, is rather more naughty and morally ambiguous than might be desired. (Translation for geeks: he's neutral chaotic.) .... I'd say Brer Rabbit is pretty chaotic neutral too. -- Jerry Friedman |
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In our last episode,
, the lovely and talented Jerry Friedman broadcast on alt.usage.english: On May 12, 11:50*pm, Lars Eighner wrote: I cannot now locate the title of the Oxford anthology in which I read it in the '70s, but google pops up a number of very promising new compilations. *The problem with the original is that it is probably too sexual for American school boards and Spider, the original trickster character from whom Brer Rabbit is derived, is rather more naughty and morally ambiguous than might be desired. (Translation for geeks: he's neutral chaotic.) ... I'd say Brer Rabbit is pretty chaotic neutral too. I should know better than to attempt stuff like that without consulting the resident authority, but he is very busy with Final Fantasy IX right now. -- Lars Eighner http://larseighner.com/ 114 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term. Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't. |
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On May 9, 10:00*pm, wrote:
Nick Spalding wrote: A push bike typically refers to bicycle (human powered). *I was talking to a sport shop owner the other day and said that I was in the shop to look at the push bikes not the motorbikes. It's not an expression that I see or hear used frequently and I was wondering if anyone has an idea of the origins of the phrase? John Kane Kingson ON Canada Push bike is a terribly British affectation. Nothing affected about it, it is just what it is called (or named). In that case, what does the Englisman visualize when the term "bicycle" is used? breasts bouncing contrapunctually. In the USA, "bicycle" has always meant a pedal driven two wheeled vehicle, just as in German, it has always been a "Fahrrad", whereas in Italy it is a "bicicletta" unambiguously. *In Switzerland the term "Velo" is widely used although, depending on which of their four languages is local, it could be German, Italian, French, or Romansch usage. *http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/push-bike* -- Jobst Brandt G DAEB COPYRIGHT (C) 2009 SIPSTON -- |
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In article ,
Nick writes: Jerry Friedman writes: On May 11, 1:46Â*pm, "Django Cat" wrote: Nick wrote: the Omrud writes: Django Cat wrote: Jerry Friedman wrote: Speaking of stickiness, though, may I venture to remind you of the Tar Baby? Ah. Â*Could be before my time... BrE folk (apparently including DC) are not in general familiar with Brer Rabbit and his friends, unless perhaps they are fans of "Sons of the South". Â*Dad had a book of Brer Rabbit stories which I suspect he may have got from Warwickshire-based American soldiers during the war (he also laid his hands on a number of now rare 78s), so I grew up knowing all about the Tar Baby, although it didn't make an awful lot of sense to me in the English Midlands in the late 50s. Whatever you do, don't make me read Uncle Remus. Â*Please don't make me read Uncle Remus. And please make me watch the "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" scene, over and over. Here you are, then, Nick: http://tinyurl.com/osdcwj I can't understand a word of it. [and] PS. And I think if I'd been asked to read this stuff in infants school I'd have wept long and bitter tears. I have the feeling I read it in a partially devernacularized version. I read it when young; 10ish perhaps. I do remember finding the vernacular heavy going, but you do get attuned to that sort of thing. No worse than I remember Feersum Endjinn being. To quote Wikipedia quoting it: Woak up. Got dresd. Had brekfast. Spoke wif Ergates thi ant who sed itz juss been wurk wurk wurk 4 u lately master Bascule, Y dont u ½ a holiday? & I agreed & that woz how we decided we otter go 2 c Mr Zoliparia in thi I-ball ov thi gargoyle Rosbrith. Lissinen' to me granda' (ay roostic 'oo 'oiled frym Toice'rst, Sx in the 1890's,) wuz ay touf slowg, too. It took me months to figure out the "'OyWee-ens" of which he spoke in his gutteral drawl were "Hawaiians." The moral content of the Uncle Remus fables is actually quite on-the-spot. To this day, Joel Chandler Harris arouses racial controversy, and yet his Uncle Remus works were about the endearing (and highly predictable) foibles of ~humanity~, not race. That's why his characters were creatures rather than human beans. It kept it generic. Harris was/is delightfully insidious and yet gently & kindly obliging to people's sensitivities with his satire. Now, /that's/ art. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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Sara Lorimer wrote:
Django Cat wrote: I feel I've missed out, big time. You can catch up: http://www.kiddierecords.com/archive/week_04.htm Oh, that's a treasure for my new-found Remus researches, Sara! [stops doing boring work things and listens with rapture] DC -- |
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On Sun, 10 May 2009 07:34:04 +0800, Robert Bannister wrote:
Except when it has a small motor attached. My newspaper tells me that electric bicycles are all the rage now. You want to be careful they are not talking about electric scotters with dodgy pedals attatched. |
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