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Old February 22nd 18, 11:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 22/02/2018 21:14, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/02/18 17:07, JNugent wrote:
On 22/02/2018 09:43, TMS320 wrote:
On 19/02/18 19:34, MrCheerful wrote:
On 19/02/2018 19:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
From Harry on the diy group.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...shing-car.html




yep totally ignoring the very clear signal, and travelling too fast
for the conditions.* I hope he has fridge freezer insurance.

In any civilised country (*) the whole point of a bike lane is that a
collision between car and bicycle in such a lane is quite plainly the
driver's fault. The car even crosses a continuous section of line. The
only issue for the victim is that it is usually better to survive than
to be in the right.

(*) Don't know about Ireland but unlikely to apply to the UK: where the
main point of installing "cycle facilities" seems to be for councils
to get "sustainable transport" grants to give their workers something
to do.


In any civilised country, the rule of the road is that traffic gives
way to traffic travelling in the same direction on its offside.


The rule of the road is that when changing lane, you give way to anybody
in the lane you want to move into.


Wrong. When moving to the nearside (eg, when pulling back to the left
after overtaking), the traveller is entitled not to be overtaken on the
nerside. That's pretty basic - it isn't a race.

Even in Britain it is permitted to
overtake on the inside in certain circumstances.


Not on a two-way road where traffic is flowing at normal speeds.

One-way streets (including roundabouts as a special form of that) are
exceptions.

Like the driver in the clip you also don't seem to understand the
distinction between a solid and dotted line. If it is a bus lane next to
you you could end up far worse off than the driver in that clip.


A solid single line does not mean that you may not cross it. There are
plenty of circumstances where you would have to do precisely that.

It is what leads to rules such as letting in overtaking traffic rather
than officiously budging up to prevent the move and refraining from
overtaking on the nearside.

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Old February 23rd 18, 02:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 22/02/18 22:56, JNugent wrote:
On 22/02/2018 21:14, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/02/18 17:07, JNugent wrote:
On 22/02/2018 09:43, TMS320 wrote:
On 19/02/18 19:34, MrCheerful wrote:
On 19/02/2018 19:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
From Harry on the diy group.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...shing-car.html




yep totally ignoring the very clear signal, and travelling too fast
for the conditions.* I hope he has fridge freezer insurance.

In any civilised country (*) the whole point of a bike lane is that a
collision between car and bicycle in such a lane is quite plainly the
driver's fault. The car even crosses a continuous section of line. The
only issue for the victim is that it is usually better to survive than
to be in the right.

(*) Don't know about Ireland but unlikely to apply to the UK: where the
main point of installing "cycle facilities" seems to be for councils
to get "sustainable transport" grants to give their workers
something to do.

In any civilised country, the rule of the road is that traffic gives
way to traffic travelling in the same direction on its offside.


The rule of the road is that when changing lane, you give way to
anybody in the lane you want to move into.


Wrong. When moving to the nearside (eg, when pulling back to the left
after overtaking), the traveller is entitled not to be overtaken on the
nerside. That's pretty basic - it isn't a race.


When you're on a motorway moving from L3 to L2 you have to be aware of
many things other than the person you have just overtaken. The person
you have overtaken is entitled to expect you to maintain a speed
differential so you continue to move away from them.

Even in Britain it is permitted to overtake on the inside in certain
circumstances.


Not on a two-way road where traffic is flowing at normal speeds.


Making a turn is not flowing at normal speed.

One-way streets (including roundabouts as a special form of that) are
exceptions.

Like the driver in the clip you also don't seem to understand the
distinction between a solid and dotted line. If it is a bus lane next
to you you could end up far worse off than the driver in that clip.


A solid single line does not mean that you may not cross it. There are
plenty of circumstances where you would have to do precisely that.


Do not forget that I was talking about cycle lanes in civilised countries.

It is what leads to rules such as letting in overtaking traffi
rather than officiously budging up to prevent the move and refraining
from overtaking on the nearside.


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Old February 23rd 18, 03:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 1:29:33 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote:


When you're on a motorway moving from L3 to L2 you have to be aware of
many things other than the person you have just overtaken. The person
you have overtaken is entitled to expect you to maintain a speed
differential so you continue to move away from them.


We call them "swoopers" - idiot drivers that overtake in L3 and then turn off at the next exit. These idiots cause false jams by the catenation effect.
 




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