ridiculous technical questions day

1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes, utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their irrelevance?

2) I have committed to buy a Shimano Alfine gearhub for no good reasons
other than its mechanical neatness, tolerable price, and the magic words
"Ultegra-grade." In theory, my ultimate excuse will be to use it in my
mud-proof cyclocross bike experiment.

It looks like the thing will go into a wheel which I will then slot into
a late-80s Pinarello road bike. I will use the twist-grip shifter on a
flat bar, and add a clip-on aerobar.

I'm thinking about using some MTB bar ends finish off the bar, and then
sticking some aero-style brake levers (for bullhorn bars) in the ends,
making a sort of pseudo aerobar with bullhorn base setup.

Will the brake levers fit into any existing MTB bar ends? Am I nutty?
Should I just go with flat-bar brake levers and the aerobar? Am I a
loonytune? Any other suggestions for what to do with a bare Alfine hub?

3) the Alfine wheel: I plan to build it up with a deep-section rim,
partly for aero, partly for cyclocross, partly because I am clearly a
nut. Any of those available in a 32h drilling?

4) which anti-turn nuts come in the standard Alfine package?

I thank you for your patience.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:57:19 GMT, Ryan Cousineau
wrote:

1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes, utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their irrelevance?

[snip]

Dear Ryan,

Are the spokes damaged?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

On Apr 3, 8:11*am, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:57:19 GMT, Ryan Cousineau
wrote:

1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes, utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their irrelevance?

[snip]

Dear Ryan,

Are the spokes damaged?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

And/or did the derailleur or hanger get mangled?

Joseph

On Apr 3, 7:57*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes, utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their irrelevance?

2) I have committed to buy a Shimano Alfine gearhub for no good reasons
other than its mechanical neatness, tolerable price, and the magic words
"Ultegra-grade." In theory, my ultimate excuse will be to use it in my
mud-proof cyclocross bike experiment.

It looks like the thing will go into a wheel which I will then slot into
a late-80s Pinarello road bike. I will use the twist-grip shifter on a
flat bar, and add a clip-on aerobar.

I'm thinking about using some MTB bar ends finish off the bar, and then
sticking some aero-style brake levers (for bullhorn bars) in the ends,
making a sort of pseudo aerobar with bullhorn base setup.

Will the brake levers fit into any existing MTB bar ends? Am I nutty?
Should I just go with flat-bar brake levers and the aerobar? Am I a
loonytune? Any other suggestions for what to do with a bare Alfine hub?

3) the Alfine wheel: I plan to build it up with a deep-section rim,
partly for aero, partly for cyclocross, partly because I am clearly a
nut. Any of those available in a 32h drilling?

4) which anti-turn nuts come in the standard Alfine package?

I thank you for your patience.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

You are insane.

What about some bars like these:

http://www.rei.com/product/768947

But for a set-up more like what you were thinking, how about a pursuit
bar, or if you want wide, a stoker bar. Those can be had for under $30
and fit bar end brakes fine. More solid that MTB bar-ends too. And of
course plenty of room for your aero bars.

About the wheel, what is the question about 32h? The Shimano pages
says the hubs come in 32 and 36. For a rim, how about a Velocity Deep-
V?

Joseph

Joseph

Ryan Cousineau Wrote:
1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident
culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes,
utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their
irrelevance?

2) I have committed to buy a Shimano Alfine gearhub for no good
reasons
other than its mechanical neatness, tolerable price, and the magic
words
"Ultegra-grade." In theory, my ultimate excuse will be to use it in my
mud-proof cyclocross bike experiment.

It looks like the thing will go into a wheel which I will then slot
into
a late-80s Pinarello road bike. I will use the twist-grip shifter on a
flat bar, and add a clip-on aerobar.

I'm thinking about using some MTB bar ends finish off the bar, and
then
sticking some aero-style brake levers (for bullhorn bars) in the ends,
making a sort of pseudo aerobar with bullhorn base setup.

Will the brake levers fit into any existing MTB bar ends? Am I nutty?
Should I just go with flat-bar brake levers and the aerobar? Am I a
loonytune? Any other suggestions for what to do with a bare Alfine
hub?

3) the Alfine wheel: I plan to build it up with a deep-section rim,
partly for aero, partly for cyclocross, partly because I am clearly a
nut. Any of those available in a 32h drilling?

4) which anti-turn nuts come in the standard Alfine package?

I thank you for your patience.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

The standard fitting kit comes with 2 sets of anti rotation washers.
Blue-green for vertical and white-silver for horizontal.
Dan Burkhart
www.boomerbicycle.ca


--
Dan Burkhart

Ryan Cousineau Wrote:
1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident
culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes,
utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their
irrelevance?

2) I have committed to buy a Shimano Alfine gearhub for no good
reasons
other than its mechanical neatness, tolerable price, and the magic
words
"Ultegra-grade." In theory, my ultimate excuse will be to use it in my
mud-proof cyclocross bike experiment.

It looks like the thing will go into a wheel which I will then slot
into
a late-80s Pinarello road bike. I will use the twist-grip shifter on a
flat bar, and add a clip-on aerobar.

I'm thinking about using some MTB bar ends finish off the bar, and
then
sticking some aero-style brake levers (for bullhorn bars) in the ends,
making a sort of pseudo aerobar with bullhorn base setup.

Will the brake levers fit into any existing MTB bar ends? Am I nutty?
Should I just go with flat-bar brake levers and the aerobar? Am I a
loonytune? Any other suggestions for what to do with a bare Alfine
hub?

3) the Alfine wheel: I plan to build it up with a deep-section rim,
partly for aero, partly for cyclocross, partly because I am clearly a
nut. Any of those available in a 32h drilling?

4) which anti-turn nuts come in the standard Alfine package?

I thank you for your patience.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
On your number 3: I would consider Alex Rims Crostini T1.2 it is not
deep at 18 mm but it is offset for a more durable build even with Alfine
hub it likely would be dishless and has an 17.5 internal width for
handling wider tires.
If you must go higher profile, Alex Rims has a 30 mm deep G6000 with 17
mm internal width or Velocity has 30 mm deep DeepV with a narrower
internal dimension. All of them are available in 32 and 36H.


--
daveornee

On Apr 3, 8:04*am, daveornee daveornee.37a...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com wrote:
Ryan Cousineau Wrote:

1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident
culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes,
utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their
irrelevance?

2) I have committed to buy a Shimano Alfine gearhub for no good
reasons
other than its mechanical neatness, tolerable price, and the magic
words
"Ultegra-grade." In theory, my ultimate excuse will be to use it in my
mud-proof cyclocross bike experiment.

It looks like the thing will go into a wheel which I will then slot
into
a late-80s Pinarello road bike. I will use the twist-grip shifter on a
flat bar, and add a clip-on aerobar.

I'm thinking about using some MTB bar ends finish off the bar, and
then
sticking some aero-style brake levers (for bullhorn bars) in the ends,
making a sort of pseudo aerobar with bullhorn base setup.

Will the brake levers fit into any existing MTB bar ends? Am I nutty?
Should I just go with flat-bar brake levers and the aerobar? Am I a
loonytune? Any other suggestions for what to do with a bare Alfine
hub?

3) the Alfine wheel: I plan to build it up with a deep-section rim,
partly for aero, partly for cyclocross, partly because I am clearly a
nut. Any of those available in a 32h drilling?

4) which anti-turn nuts come in the standard Alfine package?

I thank you for your patience.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

On your number 3: I would consider Alex Rims Crostini T1.2 it is not
deep at 18 mm but it is offset for a more durable build even with Alfine
hub it likely would be dishless and has an 17.5 internal width for
handling wider tires.
If you must go higher profile, Alex Rims has a 30 mm deep G6000 with 17
mm internal width or Velocity has 30 mm deep DeepV with a narrower
internal dimension. *All of them are available in 32 and 36H.

Unfortunately, the Alex rims you mention aren't distributed to
consumers in north America. I've only seen Crostinis as OEM. However--
just about any mid-weight 500g rim should build up really nice and
robust on a gearhub.

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:57:19 GMT, Ryan Cousineau
wrote:

1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes, utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their irrelevance?

Are you *trying* to start a h*lm*t thread?

Jasper

On Apr 3, 7:19*am, "
wrote:
On Apr 3, 7:57*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:



1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes, utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their irrelevance?

2) I have committed to buy a Shimano Alfine gearhub for no good reasons
other than its mechanical neatness, tolerable price, and the magic words
"Ultegra-grade." In theory, my ultimate excuse will be to use it in my
mud-proof cyclocross bike experiment.

It looks like the thing will go into a wheel which I will then slot into
a late-80s Pinarello road bike. I will use the twist-grip shifter on a
flat bar, and add a clip-on aerobar.

I'm thinking about using some MTB bar ends finish off the bar, and then
sticking some aero-style brake levers (for bullhorn bars) in the ends,
making a sort of pseudo aerobar with bullhorn base setup.

Will the brake levers fit into any existing MTB bar ends? Am I nutty?
Should I just go with flat-bar brake levers and the aerobar? Am I a
loonytune? Any other suggestions for what to do with a bare Alfine hub?

3) the Alfine wheel: I plan to build it up with a deep-section rim,
partly for aero, partly for cyclocross, partly because I am clearly a
nut. Any of those available in a 32h drilling?

4) which anti-turn nuts come in the standard Alfine package?

I thank you for your patience.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

You are insane.

What about some bars like these:

http://www.rei.com/product/768947

But for a set-up more like what you were thinking, how about a pursuit
bar, or if you want wide, a stoker bar. Those can be had for under $30
and fit bar end brakes fine. More solid that MTB bar-ends too. And of
course plenty of room for your aero bars.

About the wheel, what is the question about 32h? The Shimano pages
says the hubs come in 32 and 36. For a rim, how about a Velocity Deep-
V?

Joseph

Joseph

On Apr 3, 7:19*am, "
wrote:
On Apr 3, 7:57*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:



1) I went out for an MTB ride yesterday, and a chain incident culminated
in the chain getting stuck between the cassette and the spokes, utterly
destroying the plastic spoke guard in the process (the chain came back
out no problem with some backpedaling).

Does this prove the effectiveness of spoke guards, or their irrelevance?

2) I have committed to buy a Shimano Alfine gearhub for no good reasons
other than its mechanical neatness, tolerable price, and the magic words
"Ultegra-grade." In theory, my ultimate excuse will be to use it in my
mud-proof cyclocross bike experiment.

It looks like the thing will go into a wheel which I will then slot into
a late-80s Pinarello road bike. I will use the twist-grip shifter on a
flat bar, and add a clip-on aerobar.

I'm thinking about using some MTB bar ends finish off the bar, and then
sticking some aero-style brake levers (for bullhorn bars) in the ends,
making a sort of pseudo aerobar with bullhorn base setup.

Will the brake levers fit into any existing MTB bar ends? Am I nutty?
Should I just go with flat-bar brake levers and the aerobar? Am I a
loonytune? Any other suggestions for what to do with a bare Alfine hub?

3) the Alfine wheel: I plan to build it up with a deep-section rim,
partly for aero, partly for cyclocross, partly because I am clearly a
nut. Any of those available in a 32h drilling?

4) which anti-turn nuts come in the standard Alfine package?

I thank you for your patience.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

You are insane.

What about some bars like these:

http://www.rei.com/product/768947

But for a set-up more like what you were thinking, how about a pursuit
bar, or if you want wide, a stoker bar. Those can be had for under $30
and fit bar end brakes fine. More solid that MTB bar-ends too. And of
course plenty of room for your aero bars.

About the wheel, what is the question about 32h? The Shimano pages
says the hubs come in 32 and 36. For a rim, how about a Velocity Deep-
V?

Joseph

Joseph