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Need help determining value of bike
I just bought a new Trek, and now I'm trying to decide
what to do with my old Somec. It's too nice a bike to just leave unridden, and if it's still worth a lot, I think I'd prefer to sell it. Problem is, I have no idea what a bike from 1990 might be worth today. But if it really isn't worth much, then I -will- keep it as an emergency bike. I put a description/photos up: http://www.assist.org/larry/somec.html If anybody could take a look and let me know what the resale value should be, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Larry Coon University of California |
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Unfortunately, the answer is "not much".
Bikes have undergone several major design changes since then. One of the biggest is the introduction of 8s and greater cogsets, which means that the width between the chainstays has widened from 126 to 130mm so that you can fit a larger cogset on. In other words, a frame that old isn't compatible with today's wheels and gears. We also have seen new designs, threadless forks\stems, integrated headsets, no downtube shifters (which this will have), etc. As a result, it's pretty much only of interest as either a collector's item (doubtful) or a rain bike. My advice - keep it. It will definitely work as an emergency or rain bike, and it sounds like it's worth more to you than the $150ish you would get for it on eBay. Larry Coon wrote: I just bought a new Trek, and now I'm trying to decide what to do with my old Somec. It's too nice a bike to just leave unridden, and if it's still worth a lot, I think I'd prefer to sell it. Problem is, I have no idea what a bike from 1990 might be worth today. But if it really isn't worth much, then I -will- keep it as an emergency bike. I put a description/photos up: http://www.assist.org/larry/somec.html If anybody could take a look and let me know what the resale value should be, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Larry Coon University of California |
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Top Dog wrote:
Unfortunately, the answer is "not much". Bikes have undergone several major design changes since then. One of the biggest is the introduction of 8s and greater cogsets, which means that the width between the chainstays has widened from 126 to 130mm so that you can fit a larger cogset on. In other words, a frame that old isn't compatible with today's wheels and gears. Yeah, that's how I ended up buying the Trek. It all started with a broken axle on the Somec. I decided I wanted to update it, and by the time I priced everything I would need to replace, I figured I might as well just buy a new bike and be done with it. We also have seen new designs, threadless forks\stems, integrated headsets, no downtube shifters (which this will have), etc. All correct except the downtube shifters. This has Campy Ergo from the very first day they went on the market. As a result, it's pretty much only of interest as either a collector's item (doubtful) or a rain bike. My advice - keep it. It will definitely work as an emergency or rain bike, and it sounds like it's worth more to you than the $150ish you would get for it on eBay. Yeah, if it's worth that little then I'll keep it. Thanks. Larry Coon University of California The NBA Salary Cap FAQ: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm |
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You may well get more, since some of your parts could be worth a bit to
a collector. Recond (of any era) maintains a solid value. Too bad you didn't like the Deltas - those are worth their weight in gold today! I based my estimate on "standard" components. If you are patient, you may do better, but I still don't think it will be close to $400 unless someone REALLY wants something there - it would be for collector's value. I've got some friends trying to sell 2-3 yr old bikes (of lesser quality, no doubt, but with 9s components, carbon forks, etc) for $400 and not getting it. If this had the wider rear stay, it would have made a world of difference. Theoretically you can have someone widen it for you since it's a steel bike. I don't know how reliable this process is - someone else can likely say better than myself. Larry Coon wrote: Top Dog wrote: Unfortunately, the answer is "not much". Bikes have undergone several major design changes since then. One of the biggest is the introduction of 8s and greater cogsets, which means that the width between the chainstays has widened from 126 to 130mm so that you can fit a larger cogset on. In other words, a frame that old isn't compatible with today's wheels and gears. Yeah, that's how I ended up buying the Trek. It all started with a broken axle on the Somec. I decided I wanted to update it, and by the time I priced everything I would need to replace, I figured I might as well just buy a new bike and be done with it. We also have seen new designs, threadless forks\stems, integrated headsets, no downtube shifters (which this will have), etc. All correct except the downtube shifters. This has Campy Ergo from the very first day they went on the market. As a result, it's pretty much only of interest as either a collector's item (doubtful) or a rain bike. My advice - keep it. It will definitely work as an emergency or rain bike, and it sounds like it's worth more to you than the $150ish you would get for it on eBay. Yeah, if it's worth that little then I'll keep it. Thanks. Larry Coon University of California The NBA Salary Cap FAQ: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm |
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Top Dog wrote:
You may well get more, since some of your parts could be worth a bit to a collector. Recond (of any era) maintains a solid value. Too bad you didn't like the Deltas - those are worth their weight in gold today! Heh, I'd rather have better brakes that are worth less than the other way around... :-) I based my estimate on "standard" components. If you are patient, you may do better, but I still don't think it will be close to $400 unless someone REALLY wants something there - it would be for collector's value. I've got some friends trying to sell 2-3 yr old bikes (of lesser quality, no doubt, but with 9s components, carbon forks, etc) for $400 and not getting it. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I'm also not averse to parting it out, since I parted it together in the first place. Seems like that'd get me more, no? If this had the wider rear stay, it would have made a world of difference. Theoretically you can have someone widen it for you since it's a steel bike. I don't know how reliable this process is - someone else can likely say better than myself. Well as others have said, it's steel, and cold-setting isn't that much of a problem, especially for just 2mm per stay. I don't know if I should do it myself or sell it as is, with a notation that the buyer could have it cold set to 130mm if he desires. Probably the notation, since a buyer might want to keep it vintage. Thanks again. Larry Coon University of California |
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it sounds like it's worth more to you than the $150ish you
would get for it on eBay. Hmmmn.... My observation is that the frame alone would go for ~125, maybe 150. Particularly with HS. Wheels, maybe 60-70. Crank? Might be of interest to a period guy. Brifters... definitely of interest, might command a surprising amount. Heck, DA 7-sp FW's go for $25. Of course, all of that assumes a willingness to piece the bike, and to deal with packaging and shipping multiple items, not to mention the need to photograph and present the items well. |
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PBridge130 wrote:
Hmmmn.... My observation is that the frame alone would go for ~125, maybe 150. Particularly with HS. Wheels, maybe 60-70. Crank? Might be of interest to a period guy. Brifters... definitely of interest, might command a surprising amount. Heck, DA 7-sp FW's go for $25. Of course, all of that assumes a willingness to piece the bike, and to deal with packaging and shipping multiple items, not to mention the need to photograph and present the items well. Thanks for the info. Parting it out isn't a problem, even though I'm sure it'd take longer to get it all sold that way. The photos I posted were just quickies to get some input, and not something that was designed to present it for sale. Larry Coon University of California |
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topdog- One of the
biggest is the introduction of 8s and greater cogsets, which means that the width between the chainstays has widened from 126 to 130mm so that you can fit a larger cogset on. In other words, a frame that old isn't compatible with today's wheels and gears. BRBR But as a steel frameset, very easy to cold set it to 130mm, and then use anything from 7s to 10s. I disagree it's only worth about $150. I think it would be more valiable to somebody that wants a good, well made steel frameset from Italia. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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I disagree it's only worth about $150. I think it would be more valiable to somebody that wants a good, well made steel frameset from Italia. Peter, you'd obviously know about that. Same with widening the rear stays - I've heard spotty reviews on this, but then they didn't take it to someone of your ability, I'm sure. I was making more of a judgement based on a fall eBay price. (I also didn't realize it had Record!) If you're trying to sell something quick, to your average rider, it's hard to get much. If you're willing to be patient and try to find a collector or someone who really appreciates an older frame's quality, this can be done, but it can take a long time. |
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
But as a steel frameset, very easy to cold set it to 130mm, and then use anything from 7s to 10s. I disagree it's only worth about $150. I think it would be more valiable to somebody that wants a good, well made steel frameset from Italia. Thanks, Peter. As I said in another post, it'd probably be a better idea to note that the seller could easily cold set it, rather than do it myself, agreed? What value would you put on the frameset? Larry Coon University of California |
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